# Finding Yonic forms everywhere

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 23, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882 "2005-03-23T14:00:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/21 "2005-04-08T23:46:20Z")

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[The Black Stone of the Ka‘bah in Mecca.](http://www.uga.edu/islam/images/hajar.jpg)

You insert your whole head into the vagina and kiss it.

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**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/22 "2005-04-09T03:15:21Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> You insert your whole head into the vagina and kiss it.

I shaved my head and greased it up real good, and I finally got it partway in, but she didn’t like it at all.

Huh?

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**Author:** ![Tenzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Tenzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenzin)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/23 "2005-04-09T03:51:50Z")

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Johanna, I am an artist; started with painting, and spent more time doing photography professionally. Have ditched that for five years, but am coming back to both through plants. Flowers are my tremendous influence now, have studied them very thoroughly, visually, but with a scientific botanical bent as well.

I’ve always loved Georgia O’Keefe. When she was given the old “sexual connotation” blah blah back when, her response was(paraphrasing from memory): no one knows what I see in a flower.

Not to compare myself at all to Georgia O’Keefe, but I understand what she was saying. What I see in flowers is some Yoni-ness, but that is quite simplistic. Flowers are come hither for their own reasons, they are all about attraction and therefore, sexual, biologically speaking. It’s all about insects, birds, and wind, though. I look deeply into flowers with that non-human sexual connotation. The curves and loveliness may remind one of human eye-openers, but can be viewed apart from that easily.

Yet, the opening factor is the enticing one. Will have to mull about this a bit for better insights…

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/24 "2005-04-09T05:46:47Z")

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> [@sunstone](#):
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> Interestingly, I rarely see the “phallic” symbolism - even in things that others can point out are phallic-like.

It’s become a big cliche among some people that everything that’s roughly vertical is a phallic symbol. I’m sure you can do it with other symbols too.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/25 "2005-04-09T22:54:25Z")

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**Tenzin** , that was a very thoughtful post, and a good quote from Georgia O’Keeffe. I deliberately did not invoke O’Keeffe by name in this thread, though of course I was thinking of her. She is the one who got Yoni art started, whether she intended it or not. The fact that so many people _have_ seen Yonis in O’Keeffe’s flowers suggests something to me about the widespread human psychological hunger for the Yoni that hadn’t been acknowledged up until then. If Yoni art has become a cliché in certain circles as **LifeOnWry** observed, it’s partly because of the popular response to Georgia O’Keeffe’s flowers.

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**Author:** ![Tenzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Tenzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenzin)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2005, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/26 "2005-04-10T02:09:52Z")

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So, Johanna, have mused a bit today about the subject. Why are vaginal images so taboo? Ya can show titties; hell, everyone has a dreamy blissful remnant of how swellegant that feeding was (mebbe not the bottle-fed, too bad). But the Great Yawning Yoni, that’s kind of terrifying to the small-minded, who, unfortunately, have gained the upper hand, as of the past few centuries. All that opening, cooperation, and scary, unbridled, delightful moaning…must be evil & filthy.

So stupid it will make you laugh, of course. It’s hard to believe that people _still_ believe that. You know all this, I’m sure. And, by the use of “Yoni”, you know Eastern philosophy, and probably Tantra, if you follow the yoni trail to any extent: A blending of Wisdom(female), and Skillful Means (Male) to achieve balance.

I liked LifeOnWry’s comment: “I think my inner goddess is a dyke” Haha, Beautiful! I hear her on the ON and ON part… I try to participate in a lot of women’s group activities, but when people start yammering about, to me, obvious things, I tend to tune out. I didn’t realise until this discussion, that what I tune out about is women acting in a male dominant mode about feminine principles. Is this true for you, LifeOnWry?

I have some more thoughts on natural forms on yoni imagery, but work weekends, teaching people how to see nature unfold, so am tired now. If this thread persists, will post tomorrow.

Not sure if my posting style fits with the pace of this board, trying best, though.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2005, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/27 "2005-04-10T05:51:50Z")

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**Tenzin** , your writing fits in great with this thread, as you understand perfectly what it’s about. Post away _ad libitum_… I mean _ad labium_. 😃

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2005, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/28 "2005-04-10T14:48:02Z")

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I don’t know why I’m bothering to post this, but the inside view of an inspection port, sootblower opening, or other penetration through a coal furnace wall is very “yonic”.

The tubes go straight up the furnace, then bend around the port in a very elongated oval, and in the centre of the opening formed by the bending is a hole for the port - typically round. When a person squeezes through an inspection port and you’re standing on the other side, it looks like a birthing experience. I have a picture of that happening. I’ve heard at least one post area like that called the “pussy” by the welders inside.

Second place would be the tubes going between the upper and lower drum on small boiler. Imagine two circles, one above the other, and lines going out in a smooth, elongated oval from the top to the bottom. One picture I have shows a port in the middle of the opening. It’s not as good as the first one.

I guess there are other things that look similar but it’s simple geometric coincidence driven by function.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/29 "2005-04-10T17:41:50Z")

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**Una Persson** , those are great examples! Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2005, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/30 "2005-04-10T21:14:57Z")

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Tomorrow at work, I’ll try to find some pictures to scan and link to.

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**Author:** ![Tenzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Tenzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenzin)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/31 "2005-04-11T03:17:59Z")

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I look forward to Una’s photos, and what she said; “simple geometric coincidences driven by function”, well that applies to plants as well. Nice dovetail!

Flowers are the come hither sexual apparatus of the majority of plants, simply because it _works_ so well. The petals of flowers, in all their color and glory, are a plants way of attracting others, usually insects or birds, and wind, too, to achieve pollination. We may see a resemblance to the human vulva, but really, there isn’t a relation. Flowers exist out in the open to attract, humans generally ain’t displaying their nethers to the public everyday. (mebbe in a better world)

But, Function: the colors and shapes of flowers are meant to guide other species, totally different beings, in to transfer pollen to ovary. Really, the plant world is a freakshow, sexually speaking. Or, maybe the way it should be, and actually Is; lots of mutual dependency for food and reproduction, fraught with the beauty of color and scent.

Human yonis are, well, so hid away, living in the dark most of the time, usually only to be displayed to a select few, and even then, how many look at a vulva as a flower? That word, vulva, vulgar. The other C-word, worse , and Pussy, well, that’s rather silly. Why aren’t there any English words that describe female parts in a poetic bent. Quite telling.

Though we love to compare flowers to yonis, biologically speaking, in terms of display, it’s not accurate. We do get the attraction connection, though, and wish we could be so bold as flowers, and so use, cultivate, and select the best ones to grow and proffer to our beloved. Traditionally, male to female bouquets. Think about that. What a crazy world!

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**Author:** ![Peanuthead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peanuthead/32/360_2.png) [@Peanuthead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanuthead)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/32 "2005-04-11T07:06:54Z")

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> [@Hyperelastic](#):
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> I shaved my head and greased it up real good, and I finally got it partway in, but she didn’t like it at all.
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> Huh?

Next time wiggle your ears. 😃

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/33 "2005-04-11T23:41:19Z")

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I have few photos that show things well that I can legally show (many of my photos are of proprietary designs of air registers and NOx ports), but I did get a few examples from textbooks.

[Boiler primary air/secondary air port](http://65.69.77.33/files/Pictures/0504/Yoni1.jpg)

[Overfire air ports - three holes, no waiting](http://65.69.77.33/files/Pictures/0504/Yoni2.jpg)

[Steam and mud drum in a boiler](http://65.69.77.33/files/Pictures/0504/Yoni3.jpg)

[Steam and mud drum, with centre tubes that could represent something else…](http://65.69.77.33/files/Pictures/0504/Yoni4.jpg)

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**Author:** ![yBeayf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e274bd/32.png) [@yBeayf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yBeayf)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2005, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/34 "2005-04-12T03:08:34Z")

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Heh. Maybe it’s just my inner male supremacist speaking, but I dislike yonic forms. They’re so static and limiting… they don’t go anywhere. Phallic forms are so much better – they break through barriers and expand to fill space and defy gravity. Yonic forms just wallow in their own circularity. I don’t like flowers, either.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2005, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/35 "2005-04-12T11:56:40Z")

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This is probably why patriarchal religions have been so outstandingly successful in the last four or five millennia. They break through barriers, create intricate theologies, build magnificent cathedrals, and redeem mankind from the slavery of sin, without the need to bang on about phalli for the most part. (Unless you are into Dionysian phallus-waggling and getting extremely sloshed, which most people relegate to mere recreation rather than a religious rite.) Feminist religions however, especially those bolted together recently to appease dippy New-Age types who aren’t so much looking for something to express religious truth as a way to espouse anything, anything at all, that separates them from the conformist herd that they’re so tired of, just wallow in their own circularity, admiring their own vaginas and expected everyone to worship them for existing.

Flowers on the other hand are kinda pretty, although IMHO they’re only overtly sexual objects if you are a bee. 🆒

/stream-of-consciousness witter

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2005, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/36 "2005-04-12T19:03:32Z")

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What about that popular video game character?

Yonic the Hedgehog.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/37 "2005-04-13T03:13:32Z")

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Thanks fo the pictures, **Una Persson**! I liked the form of “Overfire air ports” the best. “Steam and mud drum in a boiler” seems like an abstract combination of Australian Aboriginal art with Hopi Kachina art.

Talk about your found art…

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finding-yonic-forms-everywhere/295882/38 "2005-05-31T20:23:13Z")

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The Smurfit-Stone Building in downtown Chicago:

[http://www.chicagoarchitecture.info/ShowBuilding/7.php](http://www.chicagoarchitecture.info/ShowBuilding/7.php)

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