# Fine, I'm back (possibly with some important info)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313>\
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**Created:** [October 11, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313 "2021-10-11T18:08:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/1 "2021-10-11T18:08:27Z")

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I did a non-flounce when the big changes were made to the boards, saying I really disliked the new format and probably wouldn’t stay. And for some months I did not read the Dope.

Then, of course, Covid happened. With a lot of time on my hands I started lurking without logging in. Quite a while later, I still don’t like the new format. But I’m back because I had to share this: I think Penn & Teller made a reference to the Straight Dope in the most recent episode of Fool Us. I’ll post in that thread.

Hello to anyone who remembers me!

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/2 "2021-10-11T18:40:26Z")

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Huh. I thought that you were going to inform us that you can really shake 'em down.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/3 "2021-10-11T19:32:43Z")

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I understood that reference

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/4 "2021-10-11T20:17:04Z")

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Who are Penn and Teller and what is “Fool Us”?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/5 "2021-10-11T20:27:12Z")

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Penn and Teller are a pair of comedic magicians. “Fool Us” is their current TV show, where other magicians do tricks, and P&T try to figure out how they do them.

Or… Wait. If they made reference to the Dope, that means they might be Dopers. And if so, they’d be trying to hide their identities… such as by feigning ignorance of themselves.

OK, fess up, @PastTense, which one of them are you?

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/6 "2021-10-11T20:33:19Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> OK, fess up, @PastTense, which one of them are you?

PastTense → PT → P&T → Penn & Teller.  
Obvious dual-use sock account; ban 'em.

😉

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/7 "2021-10-11T20:39:51Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> OK, fess up, @PastTense, which one of them are you?

Did what PastTense wrote count as speaking? That’d be a clue.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/8 "2021-10-11T21:16:40Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> Who are Penn and Teller

News reporters in Horseshoe Bay. They aren’t ghosts. I don’t think.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OxzFrt7xc)

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/9 "2021-10-12T13:02:32Z")

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Due to some arcane banking regulation, after 5:00 PM Penn has to use the Automated Teller.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/10 "2021-10-12T15:45:48Z")

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> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#):
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> I think Penn & Teller made a reference to the Straight Dope in the most recent episode of Fool Us. I’ll post in that thread.

In case any one else felt “that thread” should have been linked, [here ya go](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penn-teller-fool-us-season-8/952079/6)!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/11 "2021-10-13T00:00:02Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> OK, fess up, @PastTense, which one of them are you?

Well, Teller doesn’t speak…

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/12 "2021-10-13T00:07:17Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Well, Teller doesn’t speak…

Teller would appear speaking in YouTube ads for their “masterclass”, maybe one, two years ago. And obviously he speaks in the classes.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ZiVLrwNYXRA/maxresdefault.jpg "Penn & Teller Teach the Art of Magic | Official Trailer | MasterClass") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiVLrwNYXRA&t=30)

It surprised me, too. He is only mute for the performance - it’s respectable that he has never slipped up.

~Max

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/13 "2021-10-13T00:17:30Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> News reporters in Horseshoe Bay. They aren’t ghosts. I don’t think.

Were they menaced by ghosts? If not, then they themselves are ghosts. Those are literally the only two options in Horseshoe Bay. Those aren’t mutually exclusive options, of course; if they were menaced by ghosts, they might still be ghosts themselves. And they might not even be aware themselves that they were ghosts. So, odds are, they were ghosts.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/14 "2021-10-13T00:20:10Z")

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I meant her never speaks in the act.  
But enough of this, let’s get to stealing Past tense’s lunch money.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine-im-back-possibly-with-some-important-info/952313/15 "2021-10-14T23:19:01Z")

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Hmmmm. I’m very concerned.

@Cecil_Adams you best check them IP addy’s.

And, btw. I’m still waiting on you.
