# Fine **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 10, 2003, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151 "2003-08-10T04:45:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/21 "2003-08-10T05:52:55Z")
Stop replying to her threads! ---
**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/22 "2003-08-10T05:58:22Z")
Stop replying to her threads! ---
**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/23 "2003-08-10T05:59:40Z")
I didn’t need to say that twice, I just kept getting an error message. ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/24 "2003-08-10T06:13:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ladyrose \* > \*\ ***You can all go fly a kite, I am out of here! Sheesh! This is stupid, goodbye!** :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: \*\* You are a big dman baby…worse than me and that’s saying **a lot**. Surely the rest of the teeming millions are getting a big damn giggle out of this. Whine, Whine, Whine…you are worse than I am…so sad… Ya WUSS. Bye, at least I have staying power despite my whiney so-called departures. Fer God’s Sake, for a woman that is reportedly in her 50s you’d think you’d have more of a back bone. Where’s the pukey emoticon? ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/25 "2003-08-10T06:15:44Z")
er DAMN…stupid preview didn’t even net me that correction. In either case…she can go take her little temper tantrum and go to hell…that’s my arena, not hers, damnit. Bitch. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![green\_bladder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@green\_bladder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/green_bladder)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/26 "2003-08-10T06:23:44Z")
Ta-ta! ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/27 "2003-08-10T11:58:25Z")
I am starting to wonder if this is how she leaves _every_ situation. **Ladyrose at the deli** **Ladyrose** : HELLO! I am Ladyrose! I like to talk in the third person! **Counter Guy** : Umm, ok. What would you like? **Ladyrose** : Ladyrose would like some spiced ham! _Ladyrose reaches over the counter and pokes the ham_ **Counter Guy** : Ma’am. Store policy states Do Not Touch the Food **Ladyrose** : Too many rules! Ladyrose is leaving! _Ladyrose dramatically flounces two steps towards the door, then turns around and goes back to the counter_ _Counter Guy slices the ham and hands it over_ **Counter Guy** : Anything else? **Ladyrose** : Ladyrose needs mustard potato salad! _Ladyrose goes behind the counter and dips her toes in the potato salad_ **Counter Guy** : MA’AM, DON’T TOUCH THE FOOD. **Ladyrose** : All these rules make Ladyrose a sad panda! Ladyrose is really leaving now! _Ladyrose does another round of the dramatic 'walk two steps and then turn right around_ You don’t want to know what happens to the salami… ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/28 "2003-08-10T13:33:59Z")
You know, at some point these repeated “leaving” threads have got to be a clear violation of “Don’t be a jerk.” ---
**Author:** ![Shaolinrabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Shaolinrabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shaolinrabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/29 "2003-08-10T13:37:23Z")
Let’s make sure we’re all following this clearly. Here is **LadyRose** threatening to leave for, if I recall, the second time. Here’s the saga so far for those not following: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ColdFire > Don’t do this again, or you will lose your posting privileges, pronto. Referring to [this.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202270) > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Cajun Man_ > Ladyrose, you’ve been warned before about posting copyrighted material. Do this again and you will forfeit your posting privileges. referring to [this.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=203421) > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Cajun Man_ > Do not do this again, Ladyrose Referring to [this.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202613) (In all fairness she didn’t do it again, but then it _is_ sort of a one trick pony.) [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=201427) and [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=201879) are glurge so we’re not counting that, until we find a copyright, but we’ll leave that alone… Of course there was this: > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by ColdFire_ > Don’t post copyrighted works in their entirety, Ladyrose For [this.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=198837) While I was searching, I checked [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=198995) and found [this.](http://www.meant2be.com/ap_071.htm) What say ye fellas? I vote we make sure the door is locked this time. :mad: Plagiarism pisses me off. ---
**Author:** ![Shaolinrabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Shaolinrabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shaolinrabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/30 "2003-08-10T14:05:19Z")
© Copyright 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, Meant2Be Unlimited, Inc., All rights reserved. On that last one, BTW. Go ahead _Ask Philippa_ if she minds… It really bugs me because going on a message board for a popular question and answer column and posting the work of another author from _another_ question and answer column takes stones **LadyRose**. If you don’t realise that at your age, there’s something wrong with you. ---
**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/31 "2003-08-10T14:17:15Z")
With all the plagiarism that she did, are we sure she didn’t steal[the car](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=203347) too? :dubious: :rolleyes: Sorry - couldn’t resist. ---
**Author:** ![Shaolinrabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Shaolinrabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shaolinrabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/32 "2003-08-10T14:48:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DeVena \* > With all the plagiarism that she did, are we sure she didn’t steal[the car](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=203347) too? :dubious: :rolleyes: > > Sorry - couldn’t resist. Ok, for some reason that caught me as being particularly funny at that moment. As pissed as I was, it was very welcomed. Thanks, **DeVena**! Oh, and don’t forget, © **DeVena** 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/33 "2003-08-10T15:01:55Z")
I think she apparently follows that toddler rule – you know, the one that says, “What’s mine is mine. What’s yours is mine, too.” It’s really not all that hard to follow the rules around here, **Ladyrose**. If you haven’t written the words yourself as an original work, (1) only quote a snippet to get people interested, (2) give the real author credit, and (3) link to the original source. If you don’t know how to link to stuff, guess what? Click on the little “vB code” link at the bottom of _every_ page and it will tell you exactly how to do it. Sheesh. I don’t think this place is for you. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/34 "2003-08-10T15:03:13Z")
Let’s not be mean. I know it’s exasperating to explain that posting copyrighted material in its entirety, or posting bits of it without accrediting it to the author, is a violation of civil law and opens the owners of the forum to civil suits; but some people think that anything on the internet is free for public use. I can understand how people could think that. I mean, everything is there in a few mouse clicks. The reader doesn’t have to pay for it, unlike a book or a DVD. “If it’s on the internet, I can do what I want with it!” But internet content is copyrighted just as a printed manuscript is. The ease of finding things on the net and the fact that most of it is free for the reading tends to confuse some people about how it can be used. These people know that they cannot type up the entire _Harry Potter_ series and put their name on it as the author. But for some reason they can’t grasp that doing the same on the internet is equally wrong. These people must be educated, not ridiculed. After all, that’s what these boards are all about: fighting ignorance. IMO a moderator should have established an e-mail dialog with **Ladyrose** to make sure she understood exactly what she was doing wrong. From her posts, it looks as if she still doesn’t know that she was violating copyright laws. This would require extra work for the mods, but it would have helped someone too. I understand why everyone is pissed off. I get pissed off when someone doesn’t understand things that I explain to them too. But there’s no reason to be mean. ---
**Author:** ![Shaolinrabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Shaolinrabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shaolinrabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/35 "2003-08-10T15:27:53Z")
No offence **Johnny** , but the Mods _have_ been having a “dialogue” with her, and it doesn’t seem to be having the effect desired. She’s also posted an “I’m sorry” thread where this was clearly explained, and she did it once again _after_ that with the question and answer thread. She gets the concept of Copyright Laws plainly enough from what I can see, she just doesn’t get that this _isn’t_ just a message board policy that she’s repeatedly violated, but she’s also breaking laws with her actions as well. It may seem like a minor infraction on a message board, but it can seriously hurt the authors of the works to have their work bandied about without credit. Some of these people make their living with their columns and little feel good poems. FTR, I’m not trying to be _mean_, I’m trying to explain that while this pisses some people right off, myself included, that’s _not_ the reason for her getting in trouble so often. Let’s be honest here, if it was shoplifting how many chances would she get to figure out that it’s _stealing_? ---
**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/36 "2003-08-10T15:29:17Z")
She’s leaving AGAIN?! Stay or go! Make up your mind! But stop posting that you’re leaving! ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/37 "2003-08-10T15:44:19Z")
I agree, **Johnny** , though it seemed to be explained to her time and again that you musn’t post anyone else’s work in it’s entirety even with proper attribution. In her original “Hmph! I’m leaving thread!” (before the thread turned to “whoring”) a few people, like **Steelerplan** did make it clear that you should _link_ to outside content with your own _original comments_ in the OP. It’s clear that she doesn’t understand that online content is still copyrighted even though the “camping story” OP showed an attempt at being more careful. However, she also just does not seem to be paying attention to the SDMB rules and repeated cautions not to re-post _entire_ works, which she kept on doing. She was referred to the SDMB rules and guidelines, but still managed to post a jack-in-the-box. If she went over the rules and still needed sometihng clarified, there is a whole forum in which she could have asked, or she could have e-mailed a mod. As **Copa** pointed out above, even a general OP (like the last one **Copa** linked to) was not original and contained no original material. It would have been easy enough to just write: “I found this interesting…\… I have these comments… What do you all think?” Instead the feel-good OP was copied in its entirety from an outside source and re-posted here, and that just makes all of her OP’s suspect. I was hoping that her “I’m sorry, I’ll be more careful” OP was a good sign (and I thought other Dopers should have been more gracious in accepting the apology), and I was actually glad to see her return with a fresh OP that looked to be her own. My guess is that Ladyrose is not just a SDMB newbie, but is new to the 'net as well. Her gaffes are consistent with someone who is excited about this whole new world (hence the jack-in-the-box: a new discovery worth sharing!) She needs a course on netiquette and “acceptable use” that is beyond the scope of the SDMB, I’m afraid. And after all the pre-whoring “just leave, you don’t need to announce it” responses of her first “goodbye” thread, you’d figured she wouldn’t have gone and done _this_ one. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/38 "2003-08-10T15:47:07Z")
… I wrote “musn’t” ? ---
**Author:** ![Krisfer\_the\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Krisfer\_the\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krisfer_the_Cat)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/39 "2003-08-10T17:21:38Z")
My experience with her is that she’s rude off of SDMB as well. I IM’d her inviting her to Portland Dopefest, figuring she was new, she’d be shy yada yada. I got back an IM saying “I don’t do that kind of thing. I am older thn you.” Sheesh… I thought that too old stuff was left behind when we all left the playground. For the record I am 38 and her info said early 50s( not to be rude and tell her age) Nice to know someone thinks I am too young!😃 Anyway I don’t think she’ll be missed. So lets all talk among ourselves… ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2003, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151/40 "2003-08-10T17:56:09Z")
She got a personal invite to a Dopefest and **turned it down???!!!** Howw…that’s…I just…OOOOOOOOOOHHH, now I’m too annoyed to be coherent. (not that I’m ordinarily coherent anyway.) Hell, I’d be ecstatic just to have one in my area that I could crash, much less get an invitation to. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fine/194151.md?page=3)