# F'ing lying sacks of manure from ADT just rang my doorbell

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 25, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752 "2021-02-25T22:46:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/81 "2021-02-27T17:09:01Z")

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But she was surely either a troll or the worst person that ever lived.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/82 "2021-02-27T17:16:04Z")

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Also this:

> [@Should telemarketing be outlawed?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-telemarketing-be-outlawed/44272/70):
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> As much as i can apperiate everyones dislike of telemarketing allow me this few moments of verboseness… I have worked in telemarketing and just might again.Y? because there is awsome money in it.The co. i worked for not only paid hourley,but also bonuses and comission. a sale made by a salesman from a acontact by me can pay upto 75$ on a 10,000sale(not difficult in home improvement) Wether I bother you during dinner hour is of no importance or significance to me whatsoever and I do not feel …

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/83 "2021-02-27T17:18:06Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I think any door ringers or cold callers have the opposite of desired reaction from me. If unsolicited, I assume also unethical and won’t do business with you.
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> The only exception to this would have been a neighborhood kid offering to shovel snow or something like that.

It must be nice to have such a vast, ride-ranging, comprehensive knowledge of ALL companies and types of services, such that no company can ever tell you about a new product or new service that might be useful to you, because you already know about it.

Is there a subscription service that lets you know what’s coming out on the market? Or do you have some sort of psychic ability that informs you of this? I’m deeply interested in knowing how you learn about EVERYTHING, and thus have no need for a company to voluntarily inform you of how they might be able to meet one of your needs or desires.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/84 "2021-02-27T17:20:46Z")

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> [@Bootb](#):
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> Is there a subscription service that lets you know what’s coming out on the market?

There is, I’ll stop by your house and call you on the phone a few times a day over the next few weeks to see if you’d like to sign up for it. I expect you’ll pick up the phone or answer the door and politely listen to what I have to say about it each and every time. No getting fed up after the 100th call and not answering or eventually slamming the door in my face when you see I’m the one ringing the bell. Also, I won’t take no for an answer. Come to think of it, saying yes and signing up for my service won’t stop, or even slow down, my constant calls and visits to your house.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/85 "2021-02-27T17:25:25Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Yup. I get calls every week (I don’t answer them, but I can read the transcribed voicemails) warning that my car insurance is about to lapse and I have to contact them or bad things will happen oh noes!! They’re going to close my file! Except I have never owned a car, never _driven_ a car, and never even had a drivers license. So 100% the wrong person to try this scam on.

And, I, having never _not_ owned a car since I was 17 have never been approached with this scam!

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/86 "2021-02-27T17:25:49Z")

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> [@Bootb](#):
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> It must be nice to have such a vast, ride-ranging, comprehensive knowledge of ALL companies and types of services, such that no company can ever tell you about a new product or new service that might be useful to you, because you already know about it.

I’m not sure how I learn about new products, but it’s not from phone calls, door to door solicitors, or internet ads. I’ve managed quite well without ever buying a product from any of these sources.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/87 "2021-02-27T17:28:07Z")

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Huh, what was Donald Trump doing 12 years ago? Sounds a lot like him. Misspellings, miscellaneous capitalized words, gratuitous insults, grandiosity…it’s the whole package!

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/88 "2021-02-27T17:45:33Z")

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I go back and reread @Cervaise’s response to that from time to time. A truly classic rant.

> [@The Telemarketer Speaks. I Respond.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-telemarketer-speaks-i-respond/45861):
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> In [this GD thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=49642&pagenumber=1), Claudia VonL replies to everyone who complains about telemarketers by posting one of the most asinine, poorly reasoned, incompetently written messages I’ve ever seen on the SDMB. And yes, that includes the infamous JDT, so that’s saying something. Posting a sufficiently complete response to her blather in its original forum would be a violation of Board policy – and so, for the first time in my nearly two years as a member, I’m starting a Pit thread in order to do her message …

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/89 "2021-02-27T17:49:02Z")

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> [@Bootb](#):
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> It must be nice to have such a vast, ride-ranging, comprehensive knowledge of ALL companies and types of services, such that no company can ever tell you about a new product or new service that might be useful to you, because you already know about it.

Yes, it’s called the internet. Maybe you’ve heard of it?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/90 "2021-02-27T17:55:43Z")

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> [@Bootb](#):
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> Is there a subscription service that lets you know what’s coming out on the market? Or do you have some sort of psychic ability that informs you of this? I’m deeply interested in knowing how you learn about EVERYTHING, and thus have no need for a company to voluntarily inform you of how they might be able to meet one of your needs or desires.

There is; it is called “the Internet”, and by dint of technomagical wizardry combined with forums of expert (or often otherwise) knowledge and the ability to research any product or service imaginable, I can gain enough basic knowledge to seek out specific product knowledge or expertise from providers.

I have zero need for self-serving shills trying to “voluntarily inform [me] of how they might be able to meet one of your needs or desires,” of which they have no knowledge or interests beyond their own, nor any interest in their various attempts to pressure or mesmerize me into buying their shitty, cheaply made products that they can’t otherwise distribute or sell through normal channels.

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Yes, it’s called the internet. Maybe you’ve heard of it?

How could he have heard about it? No telemarketer has called him up and given him an entire spiel on how he should join CompuServe or America Online. There is literally no way for him to know about it.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/91 "2021-02-27T17:59:19Z")

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It’s gratifying so far that we’ve had few unsolicited visits from people offering dubious lawn/yard cleanup services and none from home improvement scammers.

There _was_ a guy who wanted permission to go down to our pond to collect turtles. He didn’t get it.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/92 "2021-02-27T18:01:11Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> There _was_ a guy who wanted permission to go down to our pond to collect turtles. He didn’t get it.

Now that’s creepy. What was he going to do with the turtles? Was he building a carapace for himself out of turtle shells?

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/93 "2021-02-27T18:04:28Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> It’s gratifying so far that we’ve had few unsolicited visits from people offering dubious lawn/yard cleanup services and none from home improvement scammers

I had someone at my house a few summers back offering to paint my house…my house with aluminum siding. Granted, the eves do need to be repainted. In any case he pointed over to my neighbor’s house and said he’s having his done and wanted to see if I wanted to have my done as well. I replied ‘him? He does all his own work around the house and painted it himself just last summer’ and closed the door. Someone said I should have told him I’d love to get my house painted as well and ask him to stop back after he does the neighbor’s house so I can see how he does.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/94 "2021-02-27T18:09:32Z")

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> [@Bootb](#):
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> It must be nice to have such a vast, ride-ranging, comprehensive knowledge of ALL companies and types of services, such that no company can ever tell you about a new product or new service that might be useful to you, because you already know about it.

Sounds like somebody who bought a Rainbow Vacuum Cleaner.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/95 "2021-02-27T18:12:06Z")

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**Fuck off troll.** When I want a service I do the research. An unsolicited dirtbag calling me or ringing my bell is the worst way to learn about a product or service.

I know how to do the research. Which strangely enough includes using valuable tools like Google, The Straight Dope, other boards, Consumer Reports and other quality review sites.

I don’t know who you are, but your post is a fucking joke. So mind-blowingly stupid that I am guessing you work as a scumbag sack of manure.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/96 "2021-02-27T18:38:34Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> > [@Jackmannii](#):
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> > There _was_ a guy who wanted permission to go down to our pond to collect turtles. He didn’t get it.
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> What was he going to do with the turtles? Was he building a carapace for himself out of turtle shells?
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> Stranger

A guy I know has a pet North American Alligator. He is always on the lookout for turtles as a food source for the thing.

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**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/97 "2021-02-27T18:46:01Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> > [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> > Yup. I get calls every week (I don’t answer them, but I can read the transcribed voicemails) warning that my car insurance is about to lapse and I have to contact them or bad things will happen oh noes!! They’re going to close my file! Except I have never owned a car, never _driven_ a car, and never even had a drivers license. So 100% the wrong person to try this scam on.
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> And, I, having never _not_ owned a car since I was 17 have never been approached with this scam!

I’ve also owned cars since I was 17 and I get this crap all the time. Both in the regular mail and the phone (landline). I even get the calls on my new iPhone (with a new number).

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**Author:** ![abcdefghij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@abcdefghij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abcdefghij)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/98 "2021-02-27T18:56:31Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Was he building a carapace for himself out of turtle shells?

Don’t be ridiculous. He was building a carapace out of _turtles_. 🐢

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/99 "2021-02-27T19:18:31Z")

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It’s turtles all the way down.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fing-lying-sacks-of-manure-from-adt-just-rang-my-doorbell/933752/100 "2021-02-27T19:23:56Z")

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Or all the way up.

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