# Finn Again's Wake

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 18, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923 "2010-03-18T19:10:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/21 "2010-03-18T21:06:56Z")

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I thought it was a pretty good rant. It has anger, hate, disgust, name calling, bile, all the Good Stuff.

> [@](#):
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> disingenuous, sadly predictable but poisionous soured piece of shit
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> 3D technicolour diarrhea and vomitus of a senile rabid rat
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> souless, spineless …Knazis in the Knesset
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> sallow shallow disingenious piece of fetid crap

That’s some decent ranting there.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/22 "2010-03-18T21:07:47Z")

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See, there you go again! You can’t even admit to being a bit of a twat when it comes to defending Israeli actions. Trying to read your walls of waffle is about as enjoyable as listening to someone explain why Dumbledore would kick Gandalf’s ass, without the amusement value.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/23 "2010-03-18T21:15:19Z")

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Ahhh, good, the racist division chimes in.  
Ivan, I can honestly say that you are not “a bit of a twat”. You are, in fact are a vile throwback to humanity’s darker past and I urge you to indulge your Jew-hatred even more until you rid us of your presence by mod action. Go for it. You are racist scum.

> [@Israel and the USA-Why Does This Farce Continue?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/israel-and-the-usa-why-does-this-farce-continue/532387/112):
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> Q. How do you separate Jews and Money?  
> A. With a crowbar.

> [@The Jews of the world don't like you either, Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-of-the-world-dont-like-you-either-sevastopol/520138/36):
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> I think Sevastopol has caused far less conflict for this planet than Judaism, so I’m sticking up for him. Yes, as you might have guessed, I don’t buy this “Chosen Ones” bollox either!

> [@The Jews of the world don't like you either, Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-jews-of-the-world-dont-like-you-either-sevastopol/520138/45):
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> > [@Eowne](#):
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> > Which shows that you actually know fuck all about which you speak. Being the ‘chosen people’ is not about special dispensations, from God or from anyone else.
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> I’d say that was a matter of interpretation.

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> Here’s an idea - stop shouting “I’M A JEW!” everywhere you fucking go.
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> Most of the planet’s 6 billion population who are not one of the 20 million jews, are sick of hearing about your Jehovah-loving bollocks… well, I am anyway.

]([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11493976&postcount=315](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11493976&postcount=315))

> [@Jews and the slave trade](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-and-the-slave-trade/502649/32):
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> If you are going to pick on Teh Jooz, there are far more recent crimes to accuse them of, if the history of their most representative organisation is anything to go by\*.
> 
> - Mossad, in case you are wondering. And if I die in an accident, it wasn’t really one, I’ve just pissed off the wrong jew.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/24 "2010-03-18T21:28:05Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> Would asking for a Steel Cage match be over the top?

Thunderdome!

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/25 "2010-03-18T21:31:43Z")

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Wow, did Mossad help you put that profile of me together?

I give less than a shit about your opinion of me as it is based on the same selective reading that drives your Israeli opinion.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/26 "2010-03-18T21:36:40Z")

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Actually, as all those quotes are links (some of them not “selectively” chosen at all but contain the entirety of your racist spew, like about your racist joke that Jews love money), folks can quite easily click on them and see the context and that, yes, you are indeed a vile racist.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/27 "2010-03-18T21:45:36Z")

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Ah yes, the all-important context. Place those few choice snippets alongside my other 4,000+ non-Jewish-sniping posts, and it’s obvious I’ve got a rampant racist agenda going on here.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/28 "2010-03-18T21:48:58Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> Ah yes, the all-important context. Place those few choice snippets alongside my other 4,000+ non-Jewish-sniping posts, and it’s obvious I’ve got a rampant racist agenda going on here.

Surely it would be more fair to compare against your non-Jewish sniping posts which are about Jews, portraying them in a neutral or positive light? I mean, even if each of your non-Jew-related posts were perfectly normal, it’d still be pretty fair to call you a racist if all your Jew-related posts were sniping of a similar sort to what **FinnAgain** has posted.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/29 "2010-03-18T21:53:29Z")

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A note of caution, gentlepersons? If you refer to a Jew, you are referring to a communicant in a religious tradition. If you are referring to a citizen of Israel, you mean an Israeli.

(Down home in Waco, TX, there were several Jews, but mostly, they were in Temple.)

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/30 "2010-03-18T21:53:37Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Gee, “final submission”. Sounds ominous. Or pervo, one or the other.

Every writers wet dream:

Nocturnal submissions.

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/31 "2010-03-18T22:01:04Z")

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A day after St Patrick’s Day too. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/32 "2010-03-18T22:01:57Z")

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> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#):
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> Surely it would be more fair to compare against your non-Jewish sniping posts which are about Jews, portraying them in a neutral or positive light? I mean, even if each of your non-Jew-related posts were perfectly normal, it’d still be pretty fair to call you a racist if all your Jew-related posts were sniping of a similar sort to what **FinnAgain** has posted.

I don’t need to paint them in a favourable light. They have entire PR teams and Finn Again painting a picture of the sun shining out of Israel’s arse.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/33 "2010-03-18T22:04:18Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> A note of caution, gentlepersons? If you refer to a Jew, you are referring to a communicant in a religious tradition. If you are referring to a citizen of Israel, you mean an Israeli.

Yes, and I don’t think either of them are a race, are they? I may have missed a memo somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/34 "2010-03-18T22:14:26Z")

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Wow, this one has all the makings: that’s a throwback Pit OP right there. I don’t agree with a lot of it but it brings back memories. You can really feel the foam flecks rising off this one.

> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> Ah yes, the all-important context. Place those few choice snippets alongside my other 4,000+ non-Jewish-sniping posts, and it’s obvious I’ve got a rampant racist agenda going on here.

And this is flat-out hilarious. “So I’ve said a bunch of nasty things about the Jews. Have you considered all the times I _didn’t_ say something nasty about the Jews?”

**ivan astikov** , just own up to it: you don’t like Jews. And before you ask, no, I didn’t need the resources of **FinnAgain** and Mossad to tell me. I noticed on my own a while ago.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/35 "2010-03-18T22:29:42Z")

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Just so I can get an idea of how offended you are, can you give me a 0 to 10 “racist rating”?

I guess Hitler would be classed as a 10, but where would I be on the scale?

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/36 "2010-03-18T22:34:35Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> I don’t need to paint them in a favourable light. They have entire PR teams and Finn Again painting a picture of the sun shining out of Israel’s arse.

Sure, and they also have many detractors. I very much doubt _any_ lone voice is strictly _necessary_.

But then I guess when I argue, it’s really not in terms of how I feel a group has been portrayed globally. I tend to just argue my actual opinions. It seems kind of odd to me to decide that _enough_ has been said on one side, so that my own opinions are unnecessary to a debate. After all, not everyone’s going to have seen those same global opinions.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/37 "2010-03-18T22:38:27Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> Just so I can get an idea of how offended you are, can you give me a 0 to 10 “racist rating”?
> 
> I guess Hitler would be classed as a 10, but where would I be on the scale?

I’m not offended. I’m pointing out that someone who keeps taking shots at Jews obviously doesn’t like them, which for some reason you’re trying to dodge. Anyway on the bigotry scale I just made up, I rate you at 1.5 deciGibsons.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/38 "2010-03-18T22:40:46Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> **ivan astikov** , just own up to it: you don’t like Jews. And before you ask, no, I didn’t need the resources of **FinnAgain** and Mossad to tell me. I noticed on my own a while ago.

At least he hasn’t tried the old, “I’m not an anti-semite - Arabs are also semites, and I don’t hate Arabs.” That one’s always good for a laugh.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/39 "2010-03-18T22:45:00Z")

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Wait…I thought Ivan Astikov was Jewish?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/40 "2010-03-18T22:55:47Z")

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No no, he’s an unrepentant burglar and a racist.  
Must have him confused with some other Ivan. 😉

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