# Finn Again's Wake

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 18, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923 "2010-03-18T19:10:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/641 "2010-04-10T23:58:08Z")

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Oh. come one now! How can he stare at his shoes and type at the same time?

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/642 "2010-04-11T00:15:57Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> OK. its been almost two hours now, and nobody has asked him what the heck he’s talking about. Well, I’m not gonna! Nosir! You ask him!

Its a phrase used by lowly Bengals fans like me on Bengals messageboards (yes, they exist, and there’s about 10 of us hanging around) to denote a thread that has gone on for too long. Lavar Arrington was a free agent rumored to go to the Bengals awhile back (the joke being that bigtime free agents _never_ go to the Bengals nor _want_ to play there) and the resultant thread was one of the longest we’ve ever had, rampant with specualtion.

So, anytime another thread starts to get long-ish, invariably someone chimes in with “Lavar Arrington?”. It’s like “Hi Opal” used to be around here I suppose.

See? Learn a new thing every day!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/643 "2010-04-11T00:24:09Z")

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Fair enough. What’s a “Bengal”?

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/644 "2010-04-11T00:24:46Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Fair enough. What’s a “Bengal”?

A Jew with stripes.

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/645 "2010-04-11T01:32:14Z")

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I will win this thread. My arguments are unassailable. Your only recourse is to lie because you are racist.

For evidence, see my posts that I already posted. It’s very convincing.

> [@ivn1188](#):
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> Wow, responding to your own sock is a masterful touch. Grats on your advanced trolling technique.

> [@ivn1188](#):
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> For all your talk about “woo”, you’re as venal and trite as the teabaggers and nutrasweet conspiracy theorists and creationists that you hate with such a passion.
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> Personally, I’m pretty sure you are so obsessed because you’re a fat, boring dork, and that you don’t have any real relationships – I can’t imagine how you would carry on in one, given your complete inability to admit a mistake or compromise on anything.

You are now convinced. Also, bring me a cherry soda. A kosher cherry soda.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/646 "2010-04-11T02:27:28Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> A Jew with stripes.

Yeah, we’re pretty much finished. Pointing out yet again that spoke won’t address facts, or what have you, isn’t really going to be all that useful at this point. The thread’s pretty clear as a record.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/647 "2010-04-11T02:40:36Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Yeah, we’re pretty much finished. Pointing out yet again that spoke won’t address facts, or what have you, isn’t really going to be all that useful at this point. The thread’s pretty clear as a record.

I for one will be kind of sad to see it go. I was totally joking about the “thread going on too long” thing, just trying to lighten things up as they have been so serious and vile for lo these last 6 pages…I feel more informed on the matter thanks to everyone’s contributions, and continue to be amazed at the level of vitriol surrounding this issue by people that aren’t even _there_ and aren’t directly impacted by the situation.

Or are we?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/648 "2010-04-11T03:03:06Z")

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Eh, dishonesty is just a pet peeve of mine, and one this website of all places, it shouldn’t be tolerated. Then again, stupidity is also a pet peeve of mine… I don’t suffer fools gladly all that often either. And I suppose willful ignorance doesn’t really tickle me either (I think you can see where this is going…)  
I can, and have, engaged in some good and polite discussions over the years as to Where We Go From Here. Unfortunately, people who have their facts straight, are honest, and approach the issue to discuss their ideas rather than sell a deceptive narrative on this subject are fairly rare. For every few folks like spoke, elvis, elucidator, Red Fury, whoever, we’ve only got one DSeid or Malthus, etc…  
It’s a shame, but it’s where things stand.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/649 "2010-04-11T14:43:39Z")

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We are not worthy! That’s the long and the short of it, we simply aren’t worthy of your acute intelligence and kindly good nature! Why, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if you simply removed yourself from such company as ours, and preserve your integrity and sweet disposition!

If such sacrifice be needed, I, for one, stand ready to bear that burden!

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/650 "2010-04-11T17:10:35Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> If such sacrifice be needed, I, for one, stand ready to bear that burden!

You’ve sacrificed too much already, with [your contributions](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=559247) to the U.S. power grid.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/651 "2010-04-11T17:18:46Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> You’ve sacrificed too much already, with [your contributions](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=559247) to the U.S. power grid.

He didn’t post in that thread…?  
😕

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/652 "2010-04-11T17:25:03Z")

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Oh ' **luci**. You are just jealous of **Finn** ’s intellect. He’s had that problem all his life. That’s why people don’t like him, you see. They are jealous. He told us all about it in [this comical thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=315954&pp=50). (Read it to the end for full effect.)

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/653 "2010-04-11T17:27:30Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> He didn’t post in that thread…?  
> 😕

His contribution is to generate a lot of hot air.

P.S. Interesting, spoke, in that even now you’re still lying. I never claimed that “people don’t like me”, but that my high school experience was rough due to anti-intellectual bullies. Guess that’s just another one of your ‘honest mistakes’, eh?

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/654 "2010-04-11T17:43:20Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> I never claimed that “people don’t like me”

Oh I never said you _claimed_ that. I was just stating it as fact.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/655 "2010-04-11T20:58:52Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> my high school experience was rough due to anti-intellectual bullies

Somehow I doubt that was _quite_ what they were …

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/656 "2010-04-11T21:11:53Z")

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Got that quote yet about how Jews were trying to break into Bergen Belsen, elvis?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/657 "2010-04-11T21:17:38Z")

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Tried clicking and reading yet, “intellectual”? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/658 "2010-04-11T21:30:07Z")

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Hrm, what a mystery… for days you have failed to produce a simple quote even after I read the piece and pointed out how you were wrong. Surely, this is because the quote actually exists and you are not a liar.

Speaking of which, provide the quote now.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/659 "2010-04-11T21:31:42Z")

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So much for the “intellectual” part, then.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/660 "2010-04-11T21:42:05Z")

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For those following along: about two weeks ago I caught elvis lying about a cite. That, or caught him yet again displaying [his utter lack of ability to read and comprehend basic English](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11283349&highlight=wolf#post11283349), due to the fact that he’s somewhat retarded or playing stupid to troll. I’m honestly not sure at this point.

At the time, Elvis had just claimed that the Poppendorf Camp, in Germany, under British authority, where the British imprisoned Jews they captured on the high seas after subduing their ship via piracy and murder, was French.  
Showing, naturally, that if Elvis reads the newspaper and tells you that the weather report says it’ll rain, you should check and make sure he wasn’t reading a recipe for fried hallibut.  
Anyways, I pointed out to Elvis why he was either lying about the cite or totally misreading it in a manner that only he can:

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> the author of that essay never said what you’re claiming. Nowhere did it say that Jews were trying to break into the camp, you just made that up. What the author did actually say is that there was (sic) Jews living there who were not officially registered as DP’s and were there illegally as a result, not that people were breaking in or, as your absurd fiction claimed, that they had guards there to make sure that the Jews didn’t all stage a daring break-in.

It’s been roughly two weeks now, and Elvis has yet to provide the quote that (he insists!!!) actually exists. Each time I point out that he’s got nuthin’, he tells me to read the cite. Again, I can’t quite tell if he’s mildly retarded or if he’s trolling and know that he was making shit up, so he’s just going to keep telling me to read the cite in hopes of annoying me. Ah well, six of one, half dozen of another.

The fact remains that Elvis hasn’t offered a quite for the same reason he never will.  
He made it up.

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