# Finn Again's Wake **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923 "2010-03-18T19:10:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/681 "2010-04-12T16:26:25Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > Congratulations on your brilliant insight. We would be lost without the shining jewel that is your brilliance. > > This thread is about **FinnAgain** ’s poor posting, even though he has managed an admirable hijack about the middle east (which he even tried to bring into ATMB). > > Therefore, this thread is the perfect place to make fun of him, and piss him off at the same time, all while taking advantage of his obsessive tendencies. It’s better when you make them do it to themselves. > > Note that, unlike our titular dipshit, I don’t do this in _every thread that I participate in_. This is kind of a “special occasion”. I am teaching him a lesson by showing him that he has no clothes, or some other mixed metaphor. > > Also, it has the meta factor of seeing how much I can get him to post – I’m hoping to surpass the collected works of Tolstoy by June. The thread is a pitting of him, so it isn’t that surprising that he posts in it. So far, it looks to me like he’s kicking your ass repeatedly, and you are getting increasingly pissy about it. You keep accusing him of having mental issues. That may be or it may not - personally, I would not have the patience or time to argue out every little thing on the 'net, about Israel or any other topic. But it sure isn’t any honour to have your ass kicked over and over again by someone you say is crazy, no? It’s like the mole in a wack-a-mole game claiming the kid swinging the mallet is a nut for playing the game for days on end. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/682 "2010-04-12T16:34:55Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > The thread is a pitting of him, so it isn’t that surprising that he posts in it. So far, it looks to me like he’s kicking your ass repeatedly, and you are getting increasingly pissy about it. > > You keep accusing him of having mental issues. That may be or it may not - personally, I would not have the patience or time to argue out every little thing on the 'net, about Israel or any other topic. But it sure isn’t any honour to have your ass kicked over and over again by someone you say is crazy, no? > > It’s like the mole in a wack-a-mole game claiming the kid swinging the mallet is a nut for playing the game for days on end. 😉 I don’t understand this “ass-kicking” business. Are you under the mistaken impression that I am debating with him? Or that I am trying to make policy points? You, who are sadly uninformed or just haven’t been paying attention, need to maybe go back and read the thread. You see, **FinnAgain** has already given me his worst insults. That was like 2 years ago. I believe he called me stupid, and a liar, then he tried using troll and “yapping dog” (he seems to have some sort of fascination with canine imagery, which is probably indicative of asperger’s or something). “Woo” might also have made an appearance – **FinnAgain** is still obsessed with **SmashTheState** , who was banned a while back. Now, such things might be, to you, the height of wit and vigor. That would make you a dumbass, but not everyone can have more personality than a soggy blanket. Plus, I think you’re just a sock of Finn’s, like jackmanii. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/683 "2010-04-12T16:40:07Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > The thread is a pitting of him Yep, and the OP was specifically about my views/posts about Israel, so it’s hard to claim that’s somehow a hijack. Likewise, the [ATMB thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=557521) was started by amanset because, as he later admitted, he was dishonestly trying to game the system in order to ‘get me in trouble’. In that thread I specifically responded to some of his claims about my argument and responded to a few other people who’d made claims about me. ~shrugs~ ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/684 "2010-04-12T16:43:10Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Yep, and the OP was specifically about my views/posts about Israel, so it’s hard to claim that’s somehow a hijack. Likewise, the [ATMB thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=557521) was started by amanset because, as he later admitted, he was dishonestly trying to game the system in order to ‘get me in trouble’. In that thread I specifically responded to some of his claims about my argument and responded to a few other people who’d made claims about me. > > ~shrugs~ Well, now that we’ve covered all of the middle east stuff (except that this CAMERA website seems really “fair and balanced”, to borrow an apt term), let’s talk about your mental illness. I await a very long post detailing the extent of my stupid, stupid lies. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/685 "2010-04-12T16:46:03Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > I thought this thread was called “Finn Again’s Wake”, NOT “Finn Again’s Wank”? > > FGIE, let go of FA’s cock, right now! Either that, or get a fucking room. Piss off, worm. I’m not on anyone’s cock. I’m not on anyone’s side. And I’m certainly not hurling around insults like you. Well, until now that is. I’m just interested in this subject and the vitriol it spawns. So now if I crack a joke along with someone you don’t like it means I’m on their cock now? Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/686 "2010-04-12T16:52:51Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > Wow, I’m glad you and your socks are getting along so well. But since FGIE is stupidly lying about my posts and cites which I copiously provided, let me explain it to him. > > You see, **FoieGrasIsEvil** , I don’t really read **FinnAgain** ’s posts; that would be an exercise in futility. I just skim them for the requisite number of uses of words like “stupid”, “liar”, “troll”, and “racist”. Usually that takes about two lines of text. For example, see the quote above. As far as cite checking, haha. 90% of his cites are to wikipedia or _his own fucking posts_. The ones that aren’t are sites that claim to tell “the TRUTH about the middle east!!1!” Don’t need a lot of in-depth research there. > > Also, to hear **FinnAgain** use, in apparent seriousness, the word “belabor” is probably the most hilarious thing I have seen on this board this year. His picture is in the dictionary next to the word “belabor”. The International Committee on Belaboring offered him lifetime chairmanship, but he was too busy belaboring the point to accept. His example has spawned the first _be_labor union in history, which protects the rights of scarily obsessed internet trolls like Finny to post frothing rants which have now grown longer than Genesis. > > I don’t give a shit about **FinnAgainAndAgainAndAgain** ’s points on Israel and the Middle East. Hell, he might even be right. No one can tell because he is a completely shitty debater. I just know he’s my least favorite poster by far, because he > cannot. > let. > things. > go. > > The reading public needs to understand that **FinnAgainAndAgain** is a raging blowhard with a boner for his own diatribe. > > So, in this thread, it is my mission to win. I _will_ have the last word, because I know that doing so will probably cause **FinnAgainAndAgain** to stroke out. His (allegedly) snide little comments don’t actually hide the fact that he is stung to the core by my posts. He **cannot** ignore them, because the fragile palace of his self-esteem will come tumbling down and he will have to face the fact that he is destined to die friendless and alone (or in a suicide bombing attempt in Palestine). > > So there is my answer. The short version, since your ADHD addled attention span probably caused your eyes to glaze over at the word “glad” is this: > > **FinnAgain** sucks. I want him to realize that. I will do what it takes to make that happen. Therefore, this thread will not end until one of us dies. WTF? How am I lying about your posts and cites? I have no idea what you’re getting on about except that you don’t like **FinnAgain**. I think that was established long ago, before this thread even. That’s great, you can feel any way you like. I however _am_ interested in reading his posts about Israel, and anyone else’s that contain factual information and inspire debate because I think Israel and its existence is one of the most important issues in the world. ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/687 "2010-04-12T17:39:34Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > WTF? How am I lying about your posts and cites? I have no idea what you’re getting on about except that you don’t like **FinnAgain**. I think that was established long ago, before this thread even. That’s great, you can feel any way you like. A lesser light once asked his master, “Without words, how can we understand truth?” The master replied: “What is the sound of the wind through the grass?” The student, at that moment, was enlightened. > [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I however _am_ interested in reading his posts about Israel, and anyone else’s that contain factual information and inspire debate because I think Israel and its existence is one of the most important issues in the world. Cool story bro. What does that have to do with just calling people morons and quoting yourself? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/688 "2010-04-12T17:51:42Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > A lesser light once asked his master, > “Without words, how can we understand truth?” > The master replied: > “What is the sound of the wind through the grass?” > The student, at that moment, was enlightened. > > Cool story bro. What does that have to do with just calling people morons and quoting yourself? I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about, either in this post or the one you made before where you referenced me lying about your posts/cites or whatever. When did I do that? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/689 "2010-04-12T17:55:55Z")
He’s just trolling you FGIE. He’s just making shit up about you lying about his posts/cites (has he even posted any cites in this thread? I don’t read his posts so I honestly don’t know, but I’d bet that not only haven’t you commented on his cites, he hasn’t provided any). Likewise, he’s trying to troll me too by alleging that my entire argument consists of just calling people morons (after admitting he doesn’t even read my posts, so obviously he’s lying about the content in order to troll me) and being deliberately dishonest by claiming that I ‘quote my own posts’ to do anything but point out what was said when, or what questions I’ve asked that have yet to be answered. Don’t let it bother you. Ivy is here to troll, don’t feed him for any longer than it amuses you to do so. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/690 "2010-04-12T18:02:12Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Piss off, worm. I’m not on anyone’s cock. I’m not on anyone’s side. And I’m certainly not hurling around insults like you. Well, until now that is. > > I’m just interested in this subject and the vitriol it spawns. So now if I crack a joke along with someone you don’t like it means I’m on their cock now? > > Whatever. I didn’t say you were ON his cock, I said your responses were giving him the literary equivalent of a 5-knuckle shuffle, and I stand by that statement…you wanker. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/691 "2010-04-12T18:02:55Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > I don’t understand this “ass-kicking” business. If you did, you probably wouldn’t be on the receiving end of it. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/692 "2010-04-12T18:07:45Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about, either in this post or the one you made before where you referenced me lying about your posts/cites or whatever. When did I do that? It’s a koan. You are obviously having some trouble with the concept. What _is_ the sound of the wind through the grass? Whhhoooooosssshhhhh ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/693 "2010-04-12T18:18:16Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > I didn’t say you were ON his cock, I said your responses were giving him the literary equivalent of a 5-knuckle shuffle, and I stand by that statement…you wanker. Um…ok? > [@ivn1188](#): > > It’s a koan. You are obviously having some trouble with the concept. > > What _is_ the sound of the wind through the grass? > > Whhhoooooosssshhhhh That was a pretty camouflaged whoosh. Very indirect. OK, I was whooshed? What do I win, a Pinto? ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/694 "2010-04-12T18:26:42Z")
[**IDF order will enable mass deportation from West Bank**](http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1162075.html) ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/695 "2010-04-12T18:29:44Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > OK, I was whooshed? What do I win, a Pinto? I give you a bean. Flick it. ---
**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/696 "2010-04-12T19:30:12Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > [**IDF order will enable mass deportation from West Bank**](http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1162075.html) And that while I’m watching a documentary on a transport of Jews from Holland to Auschwitz. The one where that famous picture was taken of a girl with a headscarf standing in the doorway of a cattlecar. What a strange world we live in.. BTW turns out that that girl, long time symbol of the SHOAH, was errmm, well errm a gipsy girl. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/697 "2010-04-12T19:38:07Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > WTF? How am I lying about your posts and cites? I have no idea what you’re getting on about except that you don’t like **FinnAgain**. I think that was established long ago, before this thread even. That’s great, you can feel any way you like. > > I however _am_ interested in reading his posts about Israel, and anyone else’s that contain factual information and inspire debate because I think Israel and its existence is one of the most important issues in the world. The existence of Israel is just a testament to the influence religion and the proximity to oil, has on politics. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/698 "2010-04-12T19:54:11Z")
Not that I really see much point in playing Red’s little game of “Post something having nothing to do with anything going on in the thread, as long as it’s critical of Israel”, but… Latro, your analogy is simply flawed. In one case Jews were rounded up to be taken to extermination camps. In another, illegal residents of an area under occupied as certified by the 4th Geneva Convention will be transferred from areas they are not authorized to be in. What is odd is that Haaretz makes a point that the measures aren’t in accord with Oslo… Oslo which was broken by the PA deliberately and explicitly nullified by the Hamas government. Honest question though, as so many people seem outraged by it in general and call its provisions war crimes: do you think we should repeal the 4th Geneva Convention? And if so, what should we replace it with? Or do you only believe that we should amend it? If so, do you have specific articles that you want amended, why, and what should they be changed to? ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/699 "2010-04-12T20:08:55Z")
Oh shit, here we go again. This will take about 40k words for Finn to explain why his post is his cite, you lying troll. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/700 "2010-04-12T20:11:25Z")
Gotta give him credit for a lot of hard work raising public sympathy for the Palestinian cause, anyway. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923.md?page=36)