# Finn Again's Wake **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923 "2010-03-18T19:10:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/881 "2010-04-19T18:12:57Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > This thread is boring now. I’m bored. You’re all boring. As the sponsored ad for GiraffeBoards reads, “Full of random people and their stupid opinions.” There’s no more blood in the water, you’re just flailing around bumping into things. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/882 "2010-04-19T18:26:20Z")
Hey! **Finn** ’s Mini-Me is back! ---
**Author:** ![wmfellows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@wmfellows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wmfellows)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/883 "2010-04-19T19:56:08Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > This thread is boring now. I’m bored. You’re all boring. A fair cop. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/884 "2010-04-19T20:03:48Z")
But society’s to blame. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/885 "2010-04-20T08:45:41Z")
But not jewish society…that is totally blameless, and any opinion to the contrary is merely wicked lies by evil anti-semites. There you go **FA** , I’ve just saved you a 4,000 word rant. ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/886 "2010-04-20T17:36:01Z")
Let’s take up a collection to get some rabid PLO member on here, who is just as dedicated and obsessive and zealous and as willing to post biased cites as **FatFinn**. It would be like the titanomachia, except with impotent slapping instead of thunderbolts. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/887 "2010-04-20T17:44:02Z")
**Yasser Notsofat** v **Finn Again. Again recurring** would be a titanic battle to match any Sylvester and Tweetie Pie skirmish. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/888 "2010-04-21T01:23:53Z")
Wasn’t planning on posting here again but since this appears to be the thread that keeps on giving, I figured the following article – and included video – are not just pertinent to the OP, but they also answer the question of **Finn’s** whereabouts. For those that were worried that is. Let’s see. Start here: [**Daily Show under fire for covering Israeli-Palestinian conflict**](http://rawstory.com/2009/2009/10/daily-show-israelipalestinian-conflict/) OK, so Jon (suspected self-hating Jew) made the obvious mistake of giving a confirmed self-hating Jew and a Palestinian pro-peace/rights advocate/politician air time on his show. Hilarity ensued: > [@](#): > > \*\*…Jon Stewart’s comedy news show The Daily Show is reportedly under fire from pro-Israeli groups for giving airtime to two pro-Palestinian figures on Wednesday night. > > Stewart hosted Palestinian democracy activist Mustafa Barghouti and human rights activist Anna Baltzer, author of A Witness in Palestine, who explained the Israeli-Palestinian conflict from the perspective of the Palestinian side. > > According to a letter reportedly written by Baltzer and circulated by blogger Eric Johnson, the show “was overwhelmed with angry emails and phone calls prior to the appearance, and up until the last minute it seemed like they might cancel.” > > “During the taping the show had its only heckler in 11 years,” Baltzer wrote. “The entire staff were very nervous and may come to regret the monumental decision (and not make it again) as they will surely be inundated now that the show has aired.” > > At one point during the interview, Barghouti asserted: “We [Palestinians] are struggling for liberty, we are struggling for justice. It’s Palestinians who have been subjected to the longest occupation in history and a system of segregation that is totally unjust.” > > At that point, a voice in the audience could be heard shouting: “_Liar!_”…\*\* – highlight mine. If that’s not a **Finn** tell (unless we go tin-hat and find that here a thousands of **Finn** clones. Which would be some colossal downer if true..) I don’t know what is. Can’t blame Jon for not knowing about our little place in cyberspace and thus placing blame on US House Rep Joe Wilson – and to our subject’s credit, he did refrain from following-up with his mantra of “troll,” “bigot” and/or “racist” and, of course, “stupid.” Good work I should say. After all, he _did_ fool Jon, who, by his own definition, is “no trained monkey.\*” Glad **Finn’s** OK anyway. Along with some of you, I was beginning to worry as well. \*From a CNN’s “Crossfire” reference a few years back. Great show that was. PS-[**Straight to the video**](http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-28-2009/exclusive---anna-baltzer---mustafa-barghouti-extended-interview-pt--1) for those that are either short on time or attention when it comes to Palestinian issues. Or simply material that conflicts with their confirmation bias/zealotry. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/889 "2010-04-21T01:40:03Z")
Actually, it turns out **Finn** is now busily posting to several threads _not_ specifically related to Israel. (!!) Apparently he is trying to prove to us all (and maybe to himself) that he is _not_ a monomaniac. It’s adorable, really. (And you can be sure he is winning many new friends and admirers with his usual posting style in those other threads.) Kind of funny that Jon Stewart is under attack. My impression is that he has been pretty even-handed on the whole conflict. (A while back he lampooned Palestinian children’s TV programming that demonizes Jews.) ---
**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/890 "2010-04-21T12:31:18Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > If that’s not a **Finn** tell (unless we go tin-hat and find that here a thousands of **Finn** clones. Which would be some colossal downer if true..) Hmm, better not post. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/891 "2010-04-21T12:39:26Z")
Come on **latro** , be adventurous! You havn’t lived unless you’ve been on “A List”. ---
**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/892 "2010-04-21T13:08:12Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > Come on **latro** , be adventurous! You havn’t lived unless you’ve been on “A List”. Easy for you to say, you’re already on it. And Lucy and Elvis and Spoke and your namesake ivn1188. Lists last, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/893 "2010-04-21T13:23:14Z")
> [@Latro](#): > > Easy for you to say, you’re already on it. > And Lucy and Elvis and Spoke and your namesake ivn1188. > > Lists last, you know. And that, of course, is the insidiousness of the Debate by Smear. It tamps down dissent. It keeps others from joining the debate for fear of being labeled a “bigot” or “racist” or some other evil “-ite” or “-ist.” Joe McCarthy knew that. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/894 "2010-04-21T14:54:55Z")
> [@Latro](#): > > Uhm..but there are. A few are paid but most, I think, are self appointed. > > Finn is certainly not the only Nazi Hunter Extraordinaire. I know, it’s such a drag! It’s gotten to the point where you can’t even say that Jews are greedy money grubbing bastards with a superiority complex (like Ivan) or name any random person with a Jewish sounding name in politics and accuse them of treachery without even explaining why other than that their name sounds Jewish (like Red) or say that Jews are a foreign body residing within our home and, if they have the audacity to have the ‘wrong’ politics, then they’re vulnerable to potential treachery due to their ethnicity and/or religion (like spoke and Lucy) without someone claiming that you’re a bit of a racist. How absurd! Obviously we just need some sort of loyalty oath for Jews and to periodically check any Jew involved in politics (or posting about them on message boards) to make sure they haven’t betrayed us to Israel due to their ethnicty. I don’t see how anybody could possibly find that objectionable. Anyways, yeah, I’m totally wrong. Let’s go back to Red’s idea of identifying anybody with a Jewish sounding name in politics and accusing them of treachery due to Dual Loyalty. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/895 "2010-04-21T15:06:33Z")
> [@spoke-](#): > > It keeps others from joining the debate for fear of being labeled a “bigot” or “racist” or some other evil “-ite” or "-ist. It isn’t fear, it’s recognition of futility. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/896 "2010-04-21T15:27:35Z")
Hey! **Finn** is back! And his text is less wall-ish. He is making progress with his ailment. (Well, the diagnosis is the easy part. The cure takes time.) While you are working through it, may I suggest a different Joyce reference for your sig line: Portrait of the _Autist_ as a Young Man ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/897 "2010-04-21T15:39:23Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Anyways, yeah, I’m totally wrong. Let’s go back to Red’s idea of identifying anybody with a Jewish sounding name in politics and accusing them of treachery due to Dual Loyalty. Wow, for all your complaints about lying and dishonesty and such, you sure don’t have any trouble pulling out the bullshit yourself. Because that was _exactly_ what was said. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/898 "2010-04-21T15:57:35Z")
Yeah, it really is off the irony meter for **Finn** to accuse other posters of dishonesty. He seems to be taking the [Big Lie](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie) approach now. Repeat a lie often enough… ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/899 "2010-04-21T16:28:30Z")
**Finn** , if you keep responding, they’re just going to keep baiting you. They’re masters at it. Just ignore them and they’ll eventually get bored and go away. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923/900 "2010-04-21T16:36:12Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > It isn’t fear, it’s recognition of futility. In this instance, yes, you are correct – it’s like talking to a Wall Of Words. However, overall, I’d say “The List” is growing quite rapidly as more and more people wise-up and tire of the smear tactics of the **FinnAgains** of this world: [**Israel’s global standing continues downward spiral, but many don’t grasp why**](http://mondoweiss.net/2010/04/israels-global-standing-continues-downward-spiral-but-many-dont-grasp-why.html) > [@](#): > > \*\*…Most significantly, United States citizens’ attitudes toward Israel dropped from 47% “mainly positive” in the 2009 poll to 40% in this year’s poll. About a third of the people surveyed in the U.S. have a “mostly negative” view of Israel. > > Israelis are fretting about this trend, yet many of them probably don’t have any interest in looking into and solving the problems that have caused it: the occupation, Israeli apartheid, and the Gaza massacre. The Jerusalem Post had an editorial on Israeli Independence Day that highlighted this blindness, in which it said, “Israel at 62 suffers growing pariah status, singled out for demonization in diplomatic forums, in legal arenas and in the media – its historic legitimacy undermined, its defensive measures assailed, its very right to survive questioned. Iran is central to this assault, bolstered by the bizarre partnership of the radical Left and the fascist Right in much of Western Europe and beyond.” > > _Earth to Israel: it’s not too hard to figure out why you are an increasingly isolated, pariah state. It’s certainly not because of some imagined alliance that ties Iran, Islamic extremists, European fascists and the left together_.\*\* – highlights mine. Time for another screed? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finn-agains-wake/532923.md?page=46)