# FinnAgain is a bigger fuckwipe than I thought! Shmendrick sucks too!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 21, 2016, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800 "2016-04-21T10:54:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/121 "2016-04-24T20:35:38Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> Dear Pot,  
> yada, yada, yada,
> 
> Signed,  
> The Kettle

Yes, this is probably much easier than actually saying something about what you believe and why you believe it. Based on my readings and conversations with people who had personal experience with Nazis and Germany during WWII, the Nazis intended to kill all of Europe’s Jews and succeeded in wiping out about 6 million of them, and this was an intrinsic part of Nazi ideology. You haven’t even tried to explain why you think any of these beliefs are incorrect.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/122 "2016-04-24T20:40:27Z")

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> [@Alan\_Smithee](#):
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> He’s so dumb that not only is he a Nazi, he doesn’t even realize why the rest of us don’t like him when he tries (and fails miserably) to explain how great Nazis are…

You know, I MUST be dumb! I don’t even recall saying anything like this!!

Fortunately, we have **Alan Smithee** here, who is smart, evidenced by the fact that he can doesn’t need anything like a reference, because we know he isn’t going to make a fool of himself!

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/123 "2016-04-24T20:43:45Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Yes, this is probably much easier than actually saying something about what you believe and why you believe it. Based on my readings and conversations with people who had personal experience with Nazis and Germany during WWII, the Nazis intended to kill all of Europe’s Jews and succeeded in wiping out about 6 million of them, and this was an intrinsic part of Nazi ideology. You haven’t even tried to explain why you think any of these beliefs are incorrect.

You seem to be ignorant of why I do not go into it with you, even though I, in my first response to you, told you what a circle jerk it would be to go into it on this board. Shall I cut and paste it for you?  
Also, you’re no newcomer; after over 17K posts, you know how some of these wankers can be.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/124 "2016-04-24T20:45:51Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> You seem to be ignorant of why I do not go into it with you, even though I, in my first response to you, told you what a circle jerk it would be. Shall I cut and paste it for you?

Right, you’re a coward. I get it.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/125 "2016-04-24T20:56:03Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I had never notice HandsomeHarry before today. How I long for the olden times when I maintained my innocence.

I have noticed him before and he always seemed like a regular guy/doper. Of course I hadn’t read every single thing he’s ever written here.

So this thread just serves as a big billboard screaming “Attention: In case you hadn’t realized it, HH is something akin to 9/11 hoaxers… only 666 times worse!”

Why publicize something so base and uncomplimentary about oneself?

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/126 "2016-04-24T21:07:01Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Right, you’re a coward. I get it.

If you equate cowardice with not wasting time explaining jack to Neolithic goobers, I’m guilty as charged. You aren’t a newb; with over 17K posts, you know exactly haw easily threads can et derailed. I’m going to waste my time on such as that ? Methinks not.  
Now, handsomeharry toys with the mouse:  
A cursory inspection of your penultimate post should, highlight should, show that you are unfamiliar with even the simplest aspect of the party line in re the Holocaust. I’m not going to point it out, though! Bwa-ha!

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/127 "2016-04-24T21:23:48Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> I have noticed him before and he always seemed like a regular guy/doper. Of course I hadn’t read every single thing he’s ever written here.
> 
> So this thread just serves as a big billboard screaming “Attention: In case you hadn’t realized it, HH is something akin to 9/11 hoaxers… only 666 times worse!”
> 
> Why publicize something so base and uncomplimentary about oneself?

Who pissed in your cornflakes today? I’ll make it simple, since you at least started out reasonably.

1. I AM a regular guy. I can be just as dumbass as anybody here. I like kids, don’t want war, want what everybody else here wants. (I’m certainly less rude than most people here, who insult me for \*thinking \*differently than they do.)

2. EVERYBODY equates National Socialism with 'exterminating Jews."

3. I point out that National Socialism does not necessarily mean that, and point out that the Jewish aspect of being National Socialist was entirely a German thing.

4. Everybody here will swear a blood oath that this I am telling a lie about any NS/Jewish connection, that I hate Jews, and am still cackling with glee about the Holocaust, but, I’m lying about it to cover up…I don’t know what.

5. I say that I am not convinced of the party line about the Holocaust. I have said that the party line may be correct, but, I am not convinced as such. (i.e., I am a semi-Holocaust Denier.)

6. I made this thread to insult \*\*FinnAgain \*\*and \*\*Shmendrick \*\*for being assholes, and mischaracterising my position. (As people here still do.) One called me an idiot, I can’t remember what the other did. Maybe both did. I could be acting childish, but, I still need to grow up.

Now, if I’ve missed anything, you can point it out. Further, what is entirely objectionable about any of these points?

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/128 "2016-04-24T21:25:10Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Wait, what? You claim or admit to being a Fascist/Nazi and a Holocaust denier but you’re upset that people are mis-characterizing you? As what? A gay Communist? (Or to be completely plain, I can’t think of anything worse than you admit to being, so I’m confused how people could be mis-characterizing you.)
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> And count me as another who was unaware of your beliefs.

Me also. Nazi/Fascist… Really? I mean a serious number of people died fighting this horrific nonsense so you can swan around proclaiming how wonderful the National Socialist paradigm is/was (if it wasn’t for all that inconvenient genocide)?

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/129 "2016-04-24T21:27:59Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> So are those of a really stupid gerbil.

I was going to compliment you on not mis-characterizing or misquoting me, as you usually do; then, however, I realized that you were probably planning to and got confused at the last minute.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/130 "2016-04-24T21:33:51Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> … you can swan around proclaiming how wonderful the National Socialist paradigm is/was (if it wasn’t for all that inconvenient genocide)?

Can you compare notes with **Alan Smithe** e and see where i did any of this? I don’t recall ‘swanning’ around about how wonderful the National Socialist paradigm is/was. You guys are using the ‘top secret archives’ too much for me.  
Although, I do reserve the right to swan around…wearing jackboots, if I so choose. I’m nothing if not a Dapper Swanner.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/131 "2016-04-24T21:38:15Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> Who pissed in your cornflakes today? I’ll make it simple, since you at least started out reasonably.
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> 1. I say that I am not convinced of the party line about the Holocaust. I have said that the party line may be correct, but, I am not convinced as such. (i.e., I am a semi-Holocaust Denier.)

My father was an Army Major in WWII. He saw the camps and the people in them. That’s kind of the end of the story.

You can dance an elaborate Kabuki dance about how this was all just a big misunderstanding and all the truckloads of evidence that there were death camps is some kind of a Jew/Commie/Academic plot, but …really? Is pimping intellectual feces that compelling an exercise for you?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/132 "2016-04-24T21:49:07Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> …
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> 1. I say that I am not convinced of the party line about the Holocaust. I have said that the party line may be correct, but, I am not convinced as such. (i.e., I am a semi-Holocaust Denier.)  
> …

Good gawd. They really exist? I thought calling someone a denier was a way of insulting them, as in they lack any grasp on reality. But I honestly didn’t think anyone was stupid enough to really disbelieve history like that. Unless, of course, they are a fucking troll.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/133 "2016-04-24T21:54:18Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> evidence that there were death camps is some kind of a Jew/Commie/Academic plot, but …really?

This kind of puerile attack is really below you, **astro**.  
I’m not sure who you are listening to, in re the Jew/Commie//Academic plot stuff. I don’t recall saying anything along these lines.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/134 "2016-04-24T21:55:20Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> If you equate cowardice with not wasting time explaining jack to Neolithic goobers, I’m guilty as charged. You aren’t a newb; with over 17K posts, you know exactly haw easily threads can et derailed. I’m going to waste my time on such as that ? Methinks not.  
> Now, handsomeharry toys with the mouse:  
> A cursory inspection of your penultimate post should, highlight should, show that you are unfamiliar with even the simplest aspect of the party line in re the Holocaust. I’m not going to point it out, though! Bwa-ha!

You’re probably going to continue being cowardly, since cowardice is likely intrinsic to your nature. Most Holocaust deniers are cowards (in addition to being colossally stupid and/or deceitful), in my experience.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/135 "2016-04-24T21:56:38Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Good gawd. They really exist? I thought calling someone a denier was a way of insulting them, as in they lack any grasp on reality. But I honestly didn’t think anyone was stupid enough to really disbelieve history like that. Unless, of course, they are a fucking troll.

Why do I think that herein lies insincerity?

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/136 "2016-04-24T21:58:56Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> You’re probably going to continue being cowardly, since cowardice is likely intrinsic to your nature. Most Holocaust deniers are cowards (in addition to being colossally stupid and/or deceitful), in my experience.

“In your experience”, lol. Why are you making me write ‘lol’ so many times??  
As to the rest of your post: “Yawn…”

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/137 "2016-04-24T22:03:21Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> Why do I think that herein lies insincerity?

Because you’re a fucking moron?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/138 "2016-04-24T22:08:16Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> “In your experience”, lol. Why are you making me write ‘lol’ so many times??  
> As to the rest of your post: “Yawn…”

Thank you for revealing your true self to the Dope.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/139 "2016-04-24T22:14:21Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> You’re probably going to continue being cowardly, since cowardice is likely intrinsic to your nature. Most Holocaust deniers are cowards (in addition to being colossally stupid and/or deceitful), in my experience.

Listen, **iiandyiiii** , you are entirely too angry at me. Here is somebody whom you don’t know, saying “I’m not convinced” and you’re calling me bad names. OK, this is the Pit, and I have a thick skin. Do you not see that you’re getting upset for the wrong reason? I haven’t even called Holocaust proponents liars, or said bad things about anybody (except, of course, for the assholes who insulted me, but, I think that that’s endemic to the human specie.)

I was born in the 50s, and had to live through the 60s, when we were taught to question everything. Think about My Lai. I think I gave other examples. I point out, I don’t even say “we’ve been lied to” or “you’re stupid for believing”, and look at how hot everyone gets!

Being called a coward is the least of my worries; I’m more concerned about whether to go to Dunkin Donuts or Winchells. But, I sense that you are entirely too invested in this.

What you should be doing is helping me cuss out fuckers like the aforementioned who have misquoted me and mis-characterized what I’ve said. That sort of abomination should be universally censured.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/140 "2016-04-24T22:16:46Z")

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> [@Subterraneanus](#):
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> Because you’re a fucking moron?

“Lay not this flattering unction to your soul, that not your trespass but my madness speaks.”

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