# FinnAgain is a bigger fuckwipe than I thought! Shmendrick sucks too! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 21, 2016, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800 "2016-04-21T10:54:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/141 "2016-04-24T22:23:41Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > “Lay not this flattering unction to your soul, that not your trespass but my madness speaks.” If you’re going to quote Shakespeare, at least credit it to him. You dishonest troll. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/142 "2016-04-24T22:24:12Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > Can you compare notes with **Alan Smithe** e and see where i did any of this? I don’t recall ‘swanning’ around about how wonderful the National Socialist paradigm is/was. You guys are using the ‘top secret archives’ too much for me. > Although, I do reserve the right to swan around…wearing jackboots, if I so choose. I’m nothing if not a Dapper Swanner. So you DON’T think National Socialism was good? Are you a self-hating Nazi? Or are you merely arguing that you didn’t actually spell out in this thread exactly where on the scale of “snazzy dressers and they’ve really got an _ethos_” to “MMMMMMPH! [I can’t talk because I have Hitler’s desiccated single testicle in my throat]” you think Naziism lies. And if you think anyone would actually fall for that, you’re even dumber than I thought. Which is certainly impossible. So it must be the first option, that you voluntarily chose to self-identify as a member of a group so universally reviled that _even you_ don’t like them. In which case you’re wa-a-a-ay dumber than I… Holy shit, you’re so dumb I think you’ve created a paradox. Please learn something before the impenetrable depth of your stupidity endangers the very fabric of reality! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/143 "2016-04-24T22:26:16Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > Listen, **iiandyiiii** , you are entirely too angry at me. Here is somebody whom you don’t know, saying “I’m not convinced” and you’re calling me bad names. OK, this is the Pit, and I have a thick skin. Do you not see that you’re getting upset for the wrong reason? I haven’t even called Holocaust proponents liars, or said bad things about anybody (except, of course, for the assholes who insulted me, but, I think that that’s endemic to the human specie.) > > I was born in the 50s, and had to live through the 60s, when we were taught to question everything. Think about My Lai. I think I gave other examples. I point out, I don’t even say “we’ve been lied to” or “you’re stupid for believing”, and look at how hot everyone gets! > > Being called a coward is the least of my worries; I’m more concerned about whether to go to Dunkin Donuts or Winchells. But, I sense that you are entirely too invested in this. > > What you should be doing is helping me cuss out fuckers like the aforementioned who have misquoted me and mis-characterized what I’ve said. That sort of abomination should be universally censured. Right, you only imply that my relatives lied about their escape from Germany, and that the murdered relatives that I never got to meet weren’t really murdered (or maybe never existed), and that Jews have orchestrated some massive conspiracy to cover up the truth, etc, without the courage to explain why you believe this might be so. No big deal in such an implication. Sure, question everything… and if you come back after doing the research and say that evolution isn’t real, or that black people really are inferior, or that the Holocaust didn’t happen, or that 9/11 was an inside job, or that the moon landing was faked, then be prepared to mocked and belittled for falling for bullshit and ridiculous (and in this case, anti-Semitic) conspiracy mongering. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/144 "2016-04-24T22:50:21Z")
Now, now, **iiandyiiii**. Let’s not repeat the mistakes of the past. HH started this thread because people were implying that he’s a shit-eating fuckheaded Nazi who dishonestly lies that the Holocaust never happened while taking joy in the deaths of 6 million innocent Jews. As he has made perfectly clear, he is a shit-eating fuckheaded Nazi who _stupidly_ lies that the Holocaust _might_ not have happened because he honestly _doesn’t care_ about the deaths of 6 million innocent Jews. It’s very important to him that we get this right! After all, who wants to be regarded as the _wrong kind_ of shit-eating fuckheaded Nazi? ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/145 "2016-04-24T22:58:41Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Right, you only imply that my relatives lied about their escape from Germany, and that the murdered relatives that I never got to meet weren’t really murdered (or maybe never existed), and that Jews have orchestrated some massive conspiracy to cover up the truth, etc, without the courage to explain why you believe this might be so. No big deal in such an implication. I never so much as intimated anything about your relatives escape from anywhere, I suspect that your murdered relatives were, indeed, murdered, and I have never said anything derogatory about any Jews. (I did call Leslie West “fat”, but he is, and his wife is too hot for him. She should be with me.) Can’t help you with the rest of it. You grow tiresome. Ciao. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/146 "2016-04-24T23:01:19Z")
> [@Alan\_Smithee](#): > > Now, now, **iiandyiiii**. Let’s not repeat the mistakes of the past. HH started this thread because people were implying that he’s a shit-eating fuckheaded Nazi who dishonestly lies that the Holocaust never happened while taking joy in the deaths of 6 million innocent Jews. As he has made perfectly clear, he is a shit-eating fuckheaded Nazi who _stupidly_ lies that the Holocaust _might_ not have happened because he honestly _doesn’t care_ about the deaths of 6 million innocent Jews. It’s very important to him that we get this right! After all, who wants to be regarded as the _wrong kind_ of shit-eating fuckheaded Nazi? Incorrect, as usual, but, I am not surprised that you missed the facts. I guess something that is written has no allure for you. BTW, I guess you never found that other link. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/147 "2016-04-24T23:11:18Z")
You’re not even trying anymore, are you? Nothing is more pathetic than a lazy Nazi. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/148 "2016-04-24T23:14:26Z")
Thanks for the additional trolling. It’ll make it easier to get you banned. Telling people they are too upset after saying something horrible is classic trolling, dude. Yawning and lolling is as well. Those are not how a non-troll reacts to bad allegations. I know you think you’re being all clever, but you’ve as much as admitted to what everyone was upset at you about. You were specifically asked questions about your beliefs. You refuse to answer them, when answering them the right way would get people off your back. Sure, you say that Nazism isn’t inherently anti-Jewish (which is stupid), but what you don’t say is that you personally are not anti-Jewish. You admitted to being a “semi-” Holocaust Denier, which, even without the anti-Jewish baggage, makes you a conspiracy nutter. You do in fact try to make Nazism look better, and conveniently avoid saying it is horrible. And you make tons of posts where you laugh at how angry you make everyone. You won’t disavow Nazism. You give credence to anti-Jewish conspiracy theories. And you act just like a Nazi troll when called on it. Why shouldn’t anyone think bad of you? No one gives a shit about how “nice” you are. That’s not how this works. A “nice” Nazi sympathizer is still a horrible human being without any value to society except to study how a human being can possibly be so fucked up. And no one is going to join you in yelling uselessly at Dopers who no longer post here. You even figured out how stupid it was to resurrect the thread. But you didn’t figure out that the only reason why people weren’t yelling at you was that we assumed you wised up in the past six years? (I know I’ve argued that sometimes people need to be told off even after it’s been a little while, but I meant around a week or so. Not six fucking years.) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/149 "2016-04-24T23:26:53Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > If you equate cowardice with not wasting time explaining jack to Neolithic goobers, I’m guilty as charged. You aren’t a newb; with over 17K posts, you know exactly haw easily threads can et derailed. I’m going to waste my time on such as that ? Methinks not. > Now, handsomeharry toys with the mouse: > A cursory inspection of your penultimate post should, highlight should, show that you are unfamiliar with even the simplest aspect of the **party line** in re the Holocaust. I’m not going to point it out, though! Bwa-ha! > [@handsomeharry](#): > > Who pissed in your cornflakes today? I’ll make it simple, since you at least started out reasonably. > > 1. I AM a regular guy. I can be just as dumbass as anybody here. I like kids, don’t want war, want what everybody else here wants. (I’m certainly less rude than most people here, who insult me for \*thinking \*differently than they do.) > > 2. EVERYBODY equates National Socialism with 'exterminating Jews." > > 3. I point out that National Socialism does not necessarily mean that, and point out that the Jewish aspect of being National Socialist was entirely a German thing. > > 4. Everybody here will swear a blood oath that this I am telling a lie about any NS/Jewish connection, that I hate Jews, and am still cackling with glee about the Holocaust, but, I’m lying about it to cover up…I don’t know what. > > 5. I say that I am not convinced of the **party line** about the Holocaust. I have said that the party line may be correct, but, I am not convinced as such. (i.e., I am a semi-Holocaust Denier.) > > 6. I made this thread to insult \*\*FinnAgain \*\*and \*\*Shmendrick \*\*for being assholes, and mischaracterising my position. (As people here still do.) One called me an idiot, I can’t remember what the other did. Maybe both did. I could be acting childish, but, I still need to grow up. > > Now, if I’ve missed anything, you can point it out. Further, what is entirely objectionable about any of these points? Clarification, please. Are you talking about the same “party” in both of those posts in which you mention the “party line” in re the Holocaust? If not, could you specify which “party” you refer to in each post? Thanks loads. ETA: in fact even if they ARE the same party, I’d appreciate it if you would tell us its name, explicitly. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/150 "2016-04-25T00:13:32Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > You seem to be ignorant of why I do not go into it with you, even though I, in my first response to you, told you what a circle jerk it would be to go into it on this board. So where would you feel comfortable debating your contentions? What is it about this board’s culture in particular that would give you pause? Because I have to say that while I agree such a debate wouldn’t likely go swimmingly for you here, I can’t think of many online communities where it would. _Except_ those already inclined to agree with such propositions to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/151 "2016-04-25T01:09:09Z")
> [@Alan\_Smithee](#): > > Ok, fine. I’ll do it. > > **Bobot** , handsomharry is more seriously fucked in the head than you can possibly imagine. Not only does think the Nazis were not responsible for the slaughter of the Jews (ok, _probably_ not responsible), he thinks that if we read the Wikipedia article on Nazis or books about Nazis, that we, too will come to this conclusion. He’s so dumb that not only is he a Nazi, he doesn’t even realize why the rest of us don’t like him when he tries (and fails miserably) to explain how great Nazis are. He’s so dumb that the other Nazis ask him to stop talking because it makes them look bad. He’s so incredibly dumb that he thought he could ask someone else to explain to you how dumb he is, and someone would do so in a way that didn’t make him look dumb. Sooo…, He’s the Chuck Norris of Nazis? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/152 "2016-04-25T01:37:48Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I’m a little confused too. If you take away killing the Jews, what is the appeal of being a Nazi? Let’s assume for just one second the Nazi’s didn’t invade countries, round up and kill Jews, trade unionists, gays, and Gypsies (and others). They lived a peaceful Nazi existence in Germany and didn’t hurt anyone else. I still can’t think of anything to admire about them. They did dress well, but that wasn’t so unusual in the 1930s. It’s the uniforms. They were stylish dressers. > [@handsomeharry](#): > > \Even if what I read is wrong, I’ll try and find out the facts before attacking others for their beliefs(at least publicly)\ Pot, meet kettle. Although I’m inclined to think that you probably dislike all things black. > [@Procrustus](#): > > And, unless I missed it, he can’t point to even one reason for being a Nazi. I’m no expert, but I belueve most Nazis identify as such because they buy into the White Supremecy bullshit. This guy seems to imply there are other, more rational reasons. I’m waiting… Hey, those Nazis were good people. They made sure everyone stayed warm at night by burning those pesky books. They gave all those people food to eat (even if it _was_ just other people). And they made sure that all those dirty people got showers. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/153 "2016-04-25T01:47:21Z")
Also, one of them killed Hitler! Anybody who does _that_ can’t be evil! ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/154 "2016-04-25T03:31:33Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > If you’re going to quote Shakespeare, at least credit it to him. You dishonest troll. Weak. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/155 "2016-04-25T03:39:05Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > It’s the uniforms. They were stylish dressers. > > Pot, meet kettle. Although I’m inclined to think that you probably dislike all things black. > > Hey, those Nazis were good people. They made sure everyone stayed warm at night by burning those pesky books. They gave all those people food to eat (even if it _was_ just other people). And they made sure that all those dirty people got showers. You really \*haven’t \*a clue, have you? > [@Superdude](#): > > Although I’m inclined to think that you probably dislike all things black. Oh, wait, let me guess: You’ve researched the word ‘niggardly’ and have determined it to be racist, haven’t you?? You are a \*\*bold \*\*poster! /fuckingunbelievablelie To this idiotic point, I’d let you ask my current girlfriend, but, I usually tell her I don’t like her to hang around fucktards unless they have hot sisters for me. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/156 "2016-04-25T03:55:08Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > This kind of puerile attack is really below you, **astro**. > I’m not sure who you are listening to, in re the Jew/Commie//Academic plot stuff. I don’t recall saying anything along these lines. I get that it was a boring weekend for you, but to ponder your options and then resurrect a 6 year old thread so you can run around the edge of the pool waving your arms in glee and screaming “Look! Look! I made a stinky in the pool!” so everyone will erupt in disgust and you will receive maximum possible attention, is a little much at your age don’t you think? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/157 "2016-04-25T04:31:49Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > To this idiotic point, I’d let you ask my current girlfriend, but, I usually tell her I don’t like her to hang around fucktards unless they have hot sisters for me. Upping the troll ante, are we? :dubious: I’ve always wondered about posters who take this route: deciding to go from being mildly disdained to full-on loathed entirely by their own volition. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/158 "2016-04-25T04:38:02Z")
> [@astro](#): > > I get that it was a boring weekend for you, but to ponder your options and then resurrect a 6 year old thread so you can run around the edge of the pool waving your arms in glee and screaming “Look! Look! I made a stinky in the pool!” so everyone will erupt in disgust and you will receive maximum possible attention, is a little much at your age don’t you think? Are you so desperate that you have to steal somebody else’s point…from the same thread? Have you no sense of decency? Have you no shame? IIRC, we are pretty close in the age range, and I had thought that you were acting a little strange, but, I thought that speaking to you as an adult would bring you to yourself. Sadly, I suppose blood thinners are the next step for you. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/159 "2016-04-25T04:42:09Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Upping the troll ante, are we? :dubious: > > I’ve always wondered about posters who take this route: deciding to go from being mildly disdained to full-on loathed entirely by their own volition. Read it and weep, dull one. It just goes to show that everybody’s preconceived notions are set in stone. You/they cannot conceive of something that is not inborn (inbred?) within themselves/you. You have to have things black (smirk) and white. I’ve always wondered about people who do not understand that their value system is not that of others. Do you/they not think that your thoughts may not be the only ones that are valid? Of course, that is what this thread is all about. You have forced it into a name calling of somebody/something that you cannot understand, rather than taking it at it’s face value, my calling FA and Sh… a couple of dicks. Loathed?? By _whom_?? By _what_? Hie thee home, and learn from thy betters. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800/160 "2016-04-25T04:51:13Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > Loathed?? By _whom_?? By pretty much everyone who has read your posts in this thread, I’m sure. Congratulations. > [@](#): > > Hie thee home, and learn from thy betters. I am home. And stupid and incoherent “semi-Holocaust deniers” are not my betters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-a-bigger-fuckwipe-than-i-thought-shmendrick-sucks-too/752800.md?page=9)