# FinnAgain is kind of a shitty person.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 27, 2011, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787 "2011-02-27T08:42:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/1 "2011-02-27T08:42:52Z")

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Or so I hear. There was a thread in About this Message Board where someone mentioned that FinnAgain was thought to be a troll by some. I mentioned that I recalled a thread where he kind of whips out the antisemitism card. He didn’t take that well.

> **[Getting tired of trolls](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=598633)**
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> Just how many trolls are we supposed to put up with on this board before the mods do something about them. We now have Uzi. Commissar and DTC. Every single damn one of them obvious trolls.

Specifically he says:

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> Or, one could point out that your “recollection” is of something that never happened, and making claims that aren’t true in order to try to annoy people is much closer to the definition of trolling than something that didn’t actually happen.
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> YMMV, obviously.
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> I will note, of course, that it’s interesting how often have that ‘recollection’ pops up among people who can’t seem to actually rebut my arguments.  
> I wonder if I’d be allowed to ‘recall’ how often some of them have enthusiastically supported pedophilia?  
> Ah well.

I mentioned that he wasn’t really a troll, but more of an abrasive type. He responded to that like this:

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> Yes, in response to your fictional claims supporting your bullshit accusation of trolling, I pointed out that your claims have no merit and that if I engaged in similar behavior I’d draw down mod attention. You find that abrasive as you’d much rather use fiction to accuse me of trolling and not have the annoyance of having your argument’s bankruptcy pointed out.  
> That’s a pretty good example of what I’m talking about. People who can’t actually refute the facts engage in the sort of behavior you’re exhibiting and get annoyed at how “abrasive” having their nonsense rebutted is.
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> Of course, I do find it amusing that you’re using fiction to craft a bullshit accusation of trolling and then getting upset at how “abrasive” it is for someone to defend himself against your nonsense. It’s amusing, is all.

I just wanted to show the thread I was thinking of where FinnAgain acts like a really shitty person:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13372092#post13372092](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13372092#post13372092)

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> Funny, those who accuse me of “frothing” are generally idiots and/or liars who get ever so upset at being called out but strangely can never actually show how I’m incorrect. I might point out, as an example, your Conspiracy Theory whereby tomndebb is my buddy and grants me special treatment, but moderation for calling another poster an idiot and telling them to shut up in Great Debates is biased moderation if factual rebuttals are being offered that a mental defective like you thinks have a “nasty tone and attitude”. Of course, that was a thread in which you went berserk in ATMB of all places (because you’re too fucking stupid to find the Pit) while being too shit-stupid to understand the irony of your having a raving fit and resorting to personal insults since you couldn’t touch on the facts of the matter… while vomiting up shit about someone else “frothing at the mouth”.
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> You are simply an intellectual cripple and a coward, facts that show you have verbal diarrhea can’t be dealt with, and you have to merely flail about and claim that the facts are bad and mean and “spittle flecked.” You’re the type of idiot who clings so fiercely to a position of military stupidity that if you’re proven wrong, all you can do is flip out and rant about how someone else is being ever-so-mean to you… but somehow you can’t bring yourself to show how they’re wrong about anything, at all. “I’m being stupid and wrong and ignorant and you proved that by attacking my argument, and I can’t rebut what you’ve said, so I’ll just allege that you’re rabid. Yah, that’s the ticket!”
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> Of course, as you’re mildly retarded, it probably doesn’t cross your mind that you’re admitting that you can’t even hold your own in a debate with someone who you, yourself, consider to be irrational.  
> Poor stupid bastard, I’d almost feel sorry for you if it wasn’t more effort than you’re worth.
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> Also, predictably, you too have decided to change the subject since the fact that Red is a racist is nowhere near as attractive to you as vomiting up some nonsense about how your claims being repeatedly rebutted on factual grounds is “frothing”.

I’m not saying he’s a troll, I’m saying he’s an annoying internet tough guy.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/2 "2011-02-27T08:50:22Z")

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You are one of the stuper fucks we’ve got here, aintcha?  
You start by accusing me of trolling (in ATMB of all places, because you’re too retarded to find the Pit) and then whine when I point out that your very accusation of trolling is based on fiction. And you feign surprise (seriously, how stupid are you?) when I don’t take kindly to you saying shit about me that isn’t true and accusing me of trolling. Oh, don’t worry, yes, as a little bitch you used plenty of weasel wording. So you didn’t come out and accuse me of trolling based on a lie. You made up some bullshit that never actually happened (that you “vaguely recalled”, just like I “vaguely recall” you cheering on pedophilia constantly) and then said that your lie was grounds for calling me a troll (but as you’re a coward, you simply claimed that you “could see some people taking that as trolling.”)

Of course, after accusing me of trolling (in ATMB) and doing so based on a lie, you then had the stupidity to claim that pointing out your behavior was “abrasive”, as if you’re such a spineless wimp that not only do you want to sling mud, but someone pointing out that your bullshit isn’t true is just too much for you.

You’re pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/3 "2011-02-27T08:54:15Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> You are one of the stuper fucks we’ve got here, aintcha?  
> You start by accusing me of trolling (in ATMB of all places, because you’re too retarded to find the Pit) and then whine when I point out that your very accusation of trolling is based on fiction. And you feign surprise (seriously, how stupid are you?) when I don’t take kindly to you saying shit about me that isn’t true and accusing me of trolling. Oh, don’t worry, yes, as a little bitch you used plenty of weasel wording. So you didn’t come out and accuse me of trolling based on a lie. You made up some bullshit that never actually happened (that you “vaguely recalled”, just like I “vaguely recall” you cheering on pedophilia constantly) and then said that your lie was grounds for calling me a troll (but as you’re a coward, you simply claimed that you “could see some people taking that as trolling.”)
> 
> Of course, after accusing me of trolling (in ATMB) and doing so based on a lie, you then had the stupidity to claim that pointing out your behavior was “abrasive”, as if you’re such a spineless wimp that not only do you want to sling mud, but someone pointing out that your bullshit isn’t true is just too much for you.
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> You’re pathetic.

This is an example of why people think you’re a little rough around the edges.

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**Author:** ![Cort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Cort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cort)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/4 "2011-02-27T08:55:50Z")

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I vaguely recall that FinnAgain takes himself _incredibly_ seriously, and that rubs people up the wrong way.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/5 "2011-02-27T09:02:23Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> you’re a little rough around the edges.

You accuse me of trolling in ATMB, based on a lie you’re using. Then you get annoyed when I point out that your accusation of trolling is bullshit. Then you start a Pit thread to complain about how I dared disagree when you used a lie in order to call me a troll. And in the Pit thread that you start by calling me a “shitty person”, you pretend to be all upset that I dared point out the inherent stupidity in the shit you’re spewing. Why, it’s almost as if you’re tossing out bait.

You are an impotent whiny little bitch.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/6 "2011-02-27T09:05:40Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> You accuse me of trolling in ATMB, based on a lie you’re using. Then you get annoyed when I point out that your accusation of trolling is bullshit. Then you start a Pit thread to complain about how I dared disagree when you used a lie in order to call me a troll. And in Pit thread that you start by calling me a “shitty person”, youpretend to be all upset that I dared point out the inherent stupidity in the shit you’re spewing. Why, it’s almost as if you’re tossing out bait.
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> You are an impotent whiny little bitch.

That’s it, get it all out.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/7 "2011-02-27T09:08:39Z")

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Yes, almost exactly like you’re tossing out bait.  
What’re the odds?

Tell you what, I’ll get a bag of popcorn, you give me more of your “Mommy mommy, I made stuff up about Finn and accused him of being a troll and then called him a shitty person, and and and and… he said mean stuff about me!”

Let me guess, you were breastfed until you were 16, yes?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/8 "2011-02-27T09:25:16Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Let me guess, you were breastfed until you were 16, yes?

Yeah, but your mom is such a whore she wouldn’t let me stop. ☹

Is that what you want? You need friction to get off?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/9 "2011-02-27T09:28:54Z")

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Yep, just like baiting. You insult me, then whine about how I have the temerity to say something mean about you. Not that I don’t find your trolling to be ever so amusing, but you’re not particularly clever or good at it.

Of course, knowing that spiteful little cowards like you are so utterly undone that you have to resort to this shit is all the reward I need to continue posting. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Assi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Assi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Assi)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/10 "2011-02-27T09:36:12Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I’m not saying he’s a troll, I’m saying he’s an annoying internet tough guy.

Do his panties get in a wad about speling and grammar? Does he think everyone that enters the forum is the same person using different accounts? Is his only response, “You’re stupid.”

Lindsay Lobohan has fail stink all over him.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/11 "2011-02-27T13:08:20Z")

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Pardon me, **Lobohan** , but a quick check of your recent posts shows what I remembered. You are an argumentative poster to say the least.

When I say argumentative I mean that in a personal sense. You have accused posters lately of everything from sock puppetry to idiocy. Accusing others of trolling, or even being annoying after this long and public string isn’t as credible as it would be coming from our more circumspect members.

In short, you’re one to talk.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/12 "2011-02-27T13:14:45Z")

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Hey, everyone, **Lobohan** and **FinnAgain** are smacking each other with their handbags in the Pit! This’ll be exciting!

Well, er, actually not. I think we need **Diogenes the Cynic** for the hat trick of the most pointlessly obstinate posters on this board.

Sorry, kids, we’ve seen this one before. Please try to be more entertaining.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/13 "2011-02-27T13:17:50Z")

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I like **FinnAgain**. He’s so obviously not a troll that to accuse him of being one in any forum here is just absurd. So what that he is mostly only extremely active in threads about Israel and Jews? He believes in what he believes in and he obviously cares deeply about the issue.

If there were as many threads arguing about fine wines as there are about Israel on this board I’d probably be perceived similarly.

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**Author:** ![The\_Jay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b77776/32.png) [@The\_Jay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Jay)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/14 "2011-02-27T13:30:20Z")

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FinnAgain is a Jew.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/15 "2011-02-27T13:36:18Z")

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> [@The\_Jay](#):
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> FinnAgain is a Jew.

Quite possibly, but…so what? Who cares?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/16 "2011-02-27T13:43:27Z")

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> [@The\_Jay](#):
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> FinnAgain is a Jew.

I try not to hold it against him.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/17 "2011-02-27T13:46:53Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I try not to hold it against him.

😃

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/18 "2011-02-27T13:57:09Z")

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I’m somewhat amused (but not surprised) that Lobo has decided to employ this predictable and unimpressive baiting tactic.  
Usually it goes something like “FinnAgain calls everybody who disagrees with him a baby raping anti-Semite… oh, and also he calls people liars. Why, I bet he’ll say that it’s not true that he always accuses people of raping babies! He’s out of controoool!”

Lobo’s was a slightly novel twist on the old pattern.  
First accuse someone of trolling and make up an unflattering story in order to insult them. Then complain about how ‘abrasive’ the person is when he defends himself. Sets up a nice Catch 22, either he agrees with your slander or he disagrees, thereby allowing you to whine about unfair he’s being. Then start a Pit thread personally insulting him and when (lo and behold) he responds to that insult with other insults, declare that that just goes to prove how bad he is.

It’s dumb as swiss cheese condoms, but there is a certain degree of schadenfreude in how clever Lobo thinks he’s being.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/19 "2011-02-27T14:03:16Z")

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> [@The\_Jay](#):
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> FinnAgain is a Jew.

Funny, he doesn’t _look_ shittish.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/20 "2011-02-27T14:05:27Z")

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> [@Assi](#):
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> Do his panties get in a wad about speling and grammar? Does he think everyone that enters the forum is the same person using different accounts? Is his only response, “You’re stupid.”
> 
> Lindsay Lobohan has fail stink all over him.

I always like it when someone who’s been a member for one whole day drops by the pit with an opinion on other posters. Makes me wonder why it took me so long to get q grip on the program around here.

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