# FinnAgain is kind of a shitty person. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 27, 2011, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787 "2011-02-27T08:42:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/361 "2011-03-09T20:47:26Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > anti-Semite […] hates and fears Jews […] Big Lie […] “anti-Semite”? […] lying […] trolling, […] anti-semite […] anti-semitism? […] invents a paranoid fiction […] anti-semite, […] anti-Semite […] lies […] anti-Semite […] dishonesty. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/362 "2011-03-09T20:52:18Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > [Yes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Fischer).Sorry, don’t believe you. Try quoting an example.\* > > \*I am not willing to read anyone’s posts in this thread in their entirety, even at gunpoint. I’m afraid it’s not that important to me to go slogging back through all of Finn’s posts again. If he does it, I’ll point it out. For now, I’ll just say “His posts are my cites.” As to Bobby Fischer, egads he did not like Jews. But that does not make him a jew. According to those that believe that if your mother is Jewish, somehow the child is jewish he qualifies, but he may never have embraced that concept. In fact, I’m not sure all jews on this board buy that concept. The article wasn’t a total waste. The proper term, according to Wiki, is a “self-hating Jew”, not “self-loathing jew”. He’s listed under the self-hating jew link. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/363 "2011-03-09T21:20:33Z")
Let’s replace your post with your Troll-O-vision, shall we? > [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > anti-semite[…] anti-semitism […]Big Lie[…] hates and fears jews[…] anti-semites […]is an anti-semite […]being anti-semitic. […]anti-semites […]anti-semite[…] Oh my lord! Stink Fish Pot accuses everybody who disagrees with him of being an anti-semite, and he won’t shut up about it! He used the word “anti-Semitism” or a varition 8 times in one short post, he’s got keyboard tourettes! He’s out of control! He’s insaaaaaaane! (Feel free to add any trolling flourishes onto that which you’d prefer. I think I grok the general pattern of it though.) You fell into one trap that SFG has been careful enough to avoid while trolling: don’t state a specific position or, indeed, say much of anything at all. Don’t worry, you’re using a bit of third-hand trolling, and you’re not terribly bright. You can’t really be faulted for being shit at it. > [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > For now, I’ll just say “His posts are my cites.” How odd, in a thread where I’ve disagreed with many people, quite strongly, and been quite blatant and clear in my condemnation of people, you can’t find a single example of anybody who was accused of anti-Semitism for simply disagreeing, and the only example you could find is the only person who I’ve actually called an anti-Semite… and what luck, he really does hate and fear Jews who have their own political opinions. And, gee, you had to lie about that, too. And yet, you claim I call everybody who disagrees with me an “anti-Semite”. In almost as if you are a liar and cannot cite a single instance. What a coincidence, yes? > [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > This is what I am referring to. You were referring to the fact that you’re a liar and made shit up about me calling everybody who disagrees with me an “anti-Semite”, and you can’t cite it because you’ve made it up? That you’re not only stupid but dishonest, and you’ll do something like take a quote that actually says 'even when I’m responding to people who claim that I called them an anti-semite and pointing out that’s not true, that it’s an accusation of anti-semitism?" and pretend that’s an accusation of anti-semitism? Perhaps how you’re aping SFG’s trolling (who is in turn aping another person’s trolling), and you’re doing it poorly even then, as you still haven’t addressed the actual facts, which are that the only person I’ve accused in this thread of being an anti-Semite is Red, who really does hate and fear Jews who have different political opinions than he does? Perhaps you were referring to the fact that you objectively and verifiably are using the Big Lie tactic and hoping that if you lie enough times and claim that I call everybody who disagrees with me an “anti-Semite”, that you’ll fool some people of sub-standard intellect and discernment? Perhaps that it’s rather amusing for you to invent a paranoid fiction in which I call lots of people “anti-Semites”, and use your paranoid fiction to allege that I’m mentally ill? Perhaps that you’re immune to irony? If you insist that’s what you were referring to, I will believe you. > [@](#): > > Your “proof” that RedFury (I know less about him than you) is an anti-semite is because out of 10 or so names he picked out of the senate, one happened to be greek (I think). Likewise, you are lying yet again. Rather a stupid lie as well, since the truth is just a few posts up and I can cite it. > [@FinnAgain](#): > > Along with complaining about “anti-Semite/troll/bigot/liar” accusations (that are correct) and using the term “frothy” (because he’s upset about correct accusations), Red links to a post where he lied about there being anybody who thinks that “Israel can do no wrong” and reiterates his support for a racist post he made in which he named every politician in the US government whose name sounded Jewish to him, and accused them all of ethnic-based treachery and faux-patriotism. When it was pointed out that one of his Traitor Jews was actually Greek Orthodox, he retracted his accusation, proving that ethnicity was his guiding metric and not politics or ideology. He never gave any reason for including most of the names on his list, either, except that he thought they were Jews, or they were Jews in politics who dared to have political views which he didn’t approve of. > > The only pseudo explanation Red has ever offered was that he was being hyperbolic. As if, naming every black person you can think of and accusing them all of watermelon thievery and dealing drugs, and then removing one guy’s name because you find out he’s just dark skinned and not black, is okay if you’re just being ‘hyperbolic’. Funny, that doesn’t sound as if it’s only because one person on the list happened to be Greek Orthodox. Who, exactly, do you hope to fool with such an obvious lie? > [@](#): > > He even yields the point and apologizes Also a lie. He not only stood by his anti-Semitic spew, but reiterated it and even while offering a nonpology, stated that he still supported it. Likewise not only was this not ‘fast’, it took something like a year or two to pry even a smarmy nonpology out of him. Nor does an apology wipe out the original thought. Mel Gibson is not more full of loving kindness because he had a few bull sessions with Jewish leadership groups. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/364 "2011-03-09T21:41:53Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Troll-O-vision, […] anti-semite, […] “anti-Semitism” […] trolling […] trolling: […] trolling, […] anti-Semitism […] anti-Semite… […] hate and fear Jews […] lie […] “anti-Semite”. […] liar […] liar […] “anti-Semite”, […] dishonest, […] anti-semite […] not true, […] anti-semitism?" […] anti-semitism? > […] trolling […] trolling), […] anti-Semite […] hate and fear Jews […] Big Lie […] lie […] “anti-Semite”, […] paranoid fiction […] “anti-Semites”, […] paranoid fiction […] lying […] lie […] lie? […] lie. […] anti-Semitic :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/365 "2011-03-09T21:45:00Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Let’s replace your post with your Troll-O-vision, shall we? Right on schedule SFG. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/366 "2011-03-09T21:51:14Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Right on schedule SFG. Has whatever vestigial sense of integrity you possess finally pushed you to admit I was correct and you over-reacted? I’m guessing no. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/367 "2011-03-09T22:01:46Z")
You mean, correct when you lied and claimed that a single, factual, accusation made against a single poster was really a series of accusations made with abandon? Correct when you held to your lie in post after post, before admitting that, yeah, there was really just one accusation and you were trolling me? Really Lobo, you are an awful troll. You’re just not good. I know that earlier you were masturbating over the thought that you had spiked my blood pressure, but you’re not even really particularly _annoying_, let alone _enraging._ Your trolling consists of deliberately making yourself look like a liar and a fool over and over and over and over again, and hoping that bothers me. It doesn’t. I understand, you’re both stupid and dishonest. I get it. Your mission is complete. Here, I’ll even add a “grr!”. See? You dun trolled me good. Victory! You can go away now. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/368 "2011-03-09T22:06:44Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > lied […] lie […] trolling […] troll. […] trolling […] liar […] dishonest. […] trolled \<3 I see you managed to surpress the urge to educate yourself and click the spoiler on the other post, too. Good show! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/369 "2011-03-09T22:17:42Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > You mean, correct when you lied and claimed that a single, factual, accusation made against a single poster was really a series of accusations made with abandon? Correct when you held to your lie in post after post, before admitting that, yeah, there was really just one accusation and you were trolling me? > > Really Lobo, you are an awful troll. You’re just not good. I know that earlier you were masturbating over the thought that you had spiked my blood pressure, but you’re not even really particularly _annoying_, let alone _enraging._ Your trolling consists of deliberately making yourself look like a liar and a fool over and over and over and over again, and hoping that bothers me. It doesn’t. I understand, you’re both stupid and dishonest. I get it. Your mission is complete. Here, I’ll even add a “grr!”. See? You dun trolled me good. Victory! > > You can go away now. I wasn’t trying to troll you. I was trying to explain why some people \*wrongly \*think you’re a troll. You’re no troll, you’re just an angry, spiteful, paranoid jerk. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/370 "2011-03-09T22:25:13Z")
Seriously, assuming I can get you to stop trolling long enough to answer something honestly, who do you think you’re fooling, SFG? You are obviously trolling. Have you even once addressed the truth value of my claims, or merely trolled over the fact that I’ve made them? Have you even once differentiated my accusations from the simple use of certain phrases that make you spaz out, _that other people used and I simply responded to?_ Have you said a word about people like Damuri objectively lying and claiming that I ever “shouted him down” or “implied him down”, I guess, as an anti-Semite? Or Zombie lying and claiming that I allege that people are “Mein Kampf readers?” Or Stink Fish Pot lying and claiming that I call everybody who disagrees with me an “anti-Semite”? Or did you try to annoy me for being uppity enough to simply respond and point out that those things weren’t true? Of course not, you’re trolling. Although, as you’re a troll, it’s fitting that after a sea of content-free troll posts, sometimes putting your trolling in spoiler boxes because you think it’s clever, now you bullshit about how not clicking on one of your troll posts’ spoiler boxes is ‘refusing to be educated’. Why you think anybody who isn’t an idiot wouldn’t simply scroll past your troll-droppings is beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/371 "2011-03-09T22:41:50Z")
He’s nuts. N-V-T-S, Nuts! Finn’s arguments and retorts can be boiled down to a Pee Wee Herman favorite: “I know you are, but what am I?” a Buddy Hinton jingle: “Baby talk, baby talk, it’s a wonder you can walk!” Tied up with the big bow: “The Big Lie!” ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/372 "2011-03-09T22:42:06Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > trolling […] trolling. […] trolled […] lying […] anti-Semite? […] lying […] lying […] “anti-Semite”? […] trolling. […] troll, […] troll […] trolling […] troll […] troll [spoiler]Ahaha, spot-fucking-on! I knew he’d just continue to fume instead of actually reading what I wrote. After all, why admit that someone has a point about how ridiculous you sound even when you’re making a valid argument, when instead you could just accuse them of trolling and thereby dodge any inconvenient self-reflection? ETA: I wonder if \*\*Finn \*\*tries to get women to date him by telling them that they’re ugly and retarded and that they should sleep with him if they want to prove they’re not.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/373 "2011-03-10T00:15:08Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Seriously, assuming I can get you to stop trolling long enough to answer something honestly, who do you think you’re fooling, SFG? You are obviously trolling. > Have you even once addressed the truth value of my claims, or merely trolled over the fact that I’ve made them? > Have you even once differentiated my accusations from the simple use of certain phrases that make you spaz out, _that other people used and I simply responded to?_ > Have you said a word about people like Damuri objectively lying and claiming that I ever “shouted him down” or “implied him down”, I guess, as an anti-Semite? Or Zombie lying and claiming that I allege that people are “Mein Kampf readers?” Or Stink Fish Pot lying and claiming that I call everybody who disagrees with me an “anti-Semite”? Or did you try to annoy me for being uppity enough to simply respond and point out that those things weren’t true? > Of course not, you’re trolling. > > Although, as you’re a troll, it’s fitting that after a sea of content-free troll posts, sometimes putting your trolling in spoiler boxes because you think it’s clever, now you bullshit about how not clicking on one of your troll posts’ spoiler boxes is ‘refusing to be educated’. Ahaha, spot-fucking-on! I knew she’d just continue to troll instead of actually answering, let alone rebutting what I pointed out. To be fair, I included and then edited out a bit about how she couldn’t possibly be stupid enough to claim that her trolling was in the cause of avoiding stylistic rigidity, because even when I pointed out things like dishonesty using various formulations, she still trolled about it. I see I was wrong, she is that dumb of a troll. The reason she’s trolling me, she says, is that she just can’t stand all those repeated (true) accusations. It’s a point of decorum, you see, to troll someone objecting to being lied about while ignoring the people who are lying. Of course. > [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Finn’s arguments Still no cite of anybody but Red being called an anti-Semite, eh? Sucks to use such an obvious lie, eh? > [@](#): > > “The Big Lie!” A phrase that Damuri posted first in this thread, ironically enough to bemoan the fact that not everybody was buying the lie that he (and you) were telling about me. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/374 "2011-03-10T02:32:24Z")
Ooh! Ooh! Can I do this one? > [@FinnAgain](#): > > …troll…stupid…trolling…dishonesty…trolled…troll…trolling… troll..lied…lying…anti-Semite…lie…lie Can you \*really \*not hear all the laughter? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/375 "2011-03-10T02:41:09Z")
See, a trolling template so simple, even Elvis can do it. If Gonzo joins in, I think it’ll be some sort of achievement. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/376 "2011-03-10T02:45:29Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > See, a trolling template so simple, even Elvis can do it. If Gonzo joins in, I think it’ll be some sort of achievement. If three people tell you you’re drunk, lie down. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/377 "2011-03-10T02:52:01Z")
This is weird, every time I come to this thread, I have these same three ads on the bottom: 1. Jewish Gay: find your right love under the right star! 2. Your new home in Israel: discover your new home in Jerusalem 3. Concentration Camps: Discover why the Germans were so intent on putting you into a concentration camp! Well, it beats the entertainment value of this thread anyway. But it’s on par in crazyness. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/378 "2011-03-10T03:05:07Z")
Ah, Zombie. I wish you’d go back to your “I lied about Finn and then later he pointed that out, he’s obviously insane!” bit. That was funnier. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/379 "2011-03-10T03:15:05Z")
Finn, do you have Tiger Blood and Adonis DNA? Are you a rockstar from Mars? I think I might know who you are, but you seem less rational through a keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/380 "2011-03-10T20:13:06Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > That’s not been my experience when we’ve debated. I know he has that history with Red Fury, but I don’t see it as a pattern. Can you point to a few instances of his doing this with you? Thanks. He may not do this to you because you may not criticize Israel very much. My search fu is weak and I have had him on ignore for a few months so I can’t remember anything off the top of my head. But I will try to find a few posts where he plays does this. I’m not saying he ever said “anti-semite” I am saying that he implies racism is a motivating factor for almost any attack on Israel. That part of his artillery in defending Israel aside from lying, ignoring salient points in favor of arguing about the literal definition of the word flattened, converting all his opinions into facts and all of the facts against Israel into mere conjecture, he also implies that the only reason someone might criticize Israel rather than all the other horrible regimes in the world (or even other arab nations) is because the anti-zionist has a bone to pick with Jews. I distinctly remember him asking what it is about Israel that is different than all other countries, what could it possibly be drives people to criticize Israel instead of Country X. He has this persecution complex and the result of that complex is that he overreacts (or at least he used to) to criticism of Israel. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787.md?page=20)