# FinnAgain is kind of a shitty person. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 27, 2011, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787 "2011-02-27T08:42:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/381 "2011-03-10T20:15:27Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Super-secret contribution, spoilered so that people who accuse me of trolling because they have no sense of humor can hang on to that delusion: > > I find it hilarous that resident anti-Muslim bigot **magellan010651065431** is leaping to the defense of **Finn** , when \*\*Finn \*\*has called out \*\*RedFury \*\*for doing \*the exact same thing \*\*\*mag \*\*does, only to Jews instead of Muslims (i.e., questioning their loyalty on the basis of a cultural/religious affiliation). Finn Again is like a pro-lifer, he will get into bed with anyone that will support his pro-zionist stance ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/382 "2011-03-10T20:16:42Z")
> [@Bambro](#): > > You really need to ask Red or Damuri. They are awesome at playing “Spot the Jew”. You could take a few lessons from Finn Again, you lack his finesse in accusing people of anti-semitism. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/383 "2011-03-10T20:32:15Z")
I wonder if Damuri is capable of posting about me without making things up or ranting from a state of extreme paranoia? His persecution complex is really getting the better of him, I’m afraid that he might actually be beginning to believe his claims. He really does seem to have decide to go full out for the Big Lie now, gone from claiming that I’ve “shouted him down” as an “anti-Semite” to merely implying that he is (can you “imply someone down?”) still with no cite at all, to pretending that I lied about anything (again, with no cite at all because he’s making it up), to babble about how someone who claimed that the entirety of Lebanon was “flattened” shouldn’t have been called on his bombastic nonsense with a factual response that showed that while neighborhoods in Beiruit really had been flattened, the north wasn’t touched by that bombing campaign and had instead suffered very limited strikes to key dual-use facilities in general. Damuri really seems to be either absolutely out of his mind with paranoia and a fear that I’m trying to persecute him, or maybe having his head handed to him so often in GD has simply driven him to rely on a constant stream of lies in order to cover his failings. Maybe, having been proven to be an ignorant idiot babbling about issues that he demands other people educate him on _after_ he’s already stridently taken a position he won’t back down from, he’s simply flipped out and decided that the only way he can be proven wrong so often is if it’s not really happening, and he’s really being accused of being a racist instead. I’m not sure which is worse… but boy oh boy the fucker’s become downright unhinged. I also wonder what the fuck he thinks “Zionist” means… it’s clear it’s just another slur for him. I’m still surprised that he’s so stupid as to argue that I’m _coy_. He’s the only person who is truly retarded that his argument, in this thread of all places, boils down to “Finn, you have to tell us what you _really_ think.” Then again, he’s also evidently too stupid to realize that my user name is one word… or since he’s taken to fucking _constantly_ jabbering about me since he started “ignoring” me, he’s just enjoying the ability to spew idiocy about me while hoping to avoid a name-search. Just like he was trolling a bit in GD by making shit up about me but using the indefinite “a certain poster”. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/384 "2011-03-10T21:00:34Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Finn Again is like a pro-lifer, he will get into bed with anyone that will support his pro-zionist stance Anyone who seriously uses the phrase “pro-zionist” is at least 75% of the way to proving themselves an anti-semite, barring explanatory context. Your context makes it more like 95%. I’m not Finn’s biggest fan, but (ironically) Jesus Christ, he destroys you in every thread about Israel where you open your fool mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/385 "2011-03-10T22:38:32Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > You could take a few lessons from Finn Again, you lack his finesse in accusing people of anti-semitism. He didn’t accuse you of anti-Semitism, merely of playing “spot the Jew” which you’ve done on this very thread. Moreover, you’ve made it clear you’re happy to make assumptions about Jews(such as Henry Kissinger) and people you think are Jewish(Madeline Albright) based on their ethnicity. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/386 "2011-03-10T22:50:32Z")
Honestly I do not think that Damuri is an anti-Semite. He’s just very stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Bambro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Bambro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambro)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/387 "2011-03-10T23:27:44Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > You could take a few lessons from Finn Again, you lack his finesse in accusing people of anti-semitism. Honestly, i don’t know or care if you’re an anti-semite. I was just making a joke (admittedly at your expense). Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/388 "2011-03-11T00:07:29Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Honestly I do not think that Damuri is an anti-Semite. He’s just very stupid. Nor do I. However he clearly has issues. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/389 "2011-03-11T02:17:43Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Anyone who seriously uses the phrase “pro-zionist” is at least 75% of the way to proving themselves an anti-semite, barring explanatory context. > > Your context makes it more like 95%. I’m not Finn’s biggest fan, but (ironically) Jesus Christ, he destroys you in every thread about Israel where you open your fool mouth. He does no such thing. He certainly claims to, but he does so by ignoring my criticisms of Israel and attacking the depth of my knowledge of Israel and claiming victory because I didn’t know some date or some chronology. You see you are being fooled by the fact that he is able to correct me on some factual detail into thinking that my error in factual detail means some sort of error in my premise. For example he has trotted out that tired land ownership rationale for why most Palestinians couldn’t possibly have a right of return even if such a thing existed. He has continually excused an obviously racist immigration law that prohibits any inhabitants from gaining citizenship by marriage (while anyone else in the world would be able to do so). He claims its security related but then never addresses why the child of that marriage also is denied citizenship even if they are born and raised in Israel, nor does he address the fact that Israel ejects them upon reaching adulthood. If you think he destroys me in every thread then this is occurring after I put him on ignore so I don’t respond to his posts or because you view the world through a very special prism. BTW, why does using terms like pro-zionist imply anti-semitism? Even Finn doesn’t make that sort of connection. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/390 "2011-03-11T02:19:30Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > He didn’t accuse you of anti-Semitism, merely of playing “spot the Jew” which you’ve done on this very thread. > > Moreover, you’ve made it clear you’re happy to make assumptions about Jews(such as Henry Kissinger) and people you think are Jewish(Madeline Albright) based on their ethnicity. Then I’m not sure what “spot the Jew” is and how I can read this other than as an accusation of antisemitism. And what sort of assumptions have I made other than that they wouldn’t have Palestinian sympathies? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/391 "2011-03-11T02:21:30Z")
> [@Bambro](#): > > Honestly, i don’t know or care if you’re an anti-semite. I was just making a joke (admittedly at your expense). > > Cheers. So you throw around accusations of antisemitism to make funnies at other people’s expense? Stay classy. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/392 "2011-03-11T02:23:03Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Nor do I. > > However he clearly has issues. I think we all have issues, I get annoyed when people make excuses for bad behaviour so incessantly that it defies reason and Finn excuses Israel’s bad behaviour and you excuse Finn’s. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/393 "2011-03-11T03:00:45Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > I wonder if Damuri is capable of posting about me without making things up or ranting from a state of extreme paranoia? It’s looking like “no” is the answer. Astute readers will also notice that I cite my claims about his comments, and he almost never cites any of his about mine. Largely because they’re almost universally imaginary. > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > He certainly claims to, but he does so by ignoring my criticisms of Israel and attacking the depth of my knowledge of Israel and claiming victory because I didn’t know some date or some chronology. This is a good example of Damuri’s dishonesty. As [cited in this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13531795&postcount=267) the “some date or some chronology” was central to the point he was trying to make in his ignorant babbling about the UN and Israel. As soon as the very foundation of his argument was shown to be wrong, not only did he not fix it, but even after patiently being corrected he went from error to error to error, finally winding up back at his originally debunked error. Naturally, the very facts that he was basing his argument on are totaly unimportant… once shown to be wrong. Also characteristic of Damuri’s dishonesty, he’s acting as if some simple error in chronology doomed his argument. As if mixing up a Thursday and a Tuesday was what happened. > [@](#): > > For example he has trotted out that tired land ownership rationale for why most Palestinians couldn’t possibly have a right of return More dishonesty. Damuri’s errors began when he (not even knowing what document established the concept in the first place), was talking about the Right of Return (not even knowing what it actually was) as if it was an absolute. He actually went as far as to claim that [“all the formative documents of israel contemplate the right of return”](http://209.104.5.198/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12451034&postcount=188), proving that he wasn’t letting his absolute ignorance of those founding documents get in the way of making absurd claims about them. In fact, he then went on to babble, when I pointed out that UNGAR 194 was not binding, that [“[you] have your version of reality and the rest of the world has another. The UN resolution reiterated a right of return that had been part of the dialogue since the late 1800’s.”](http://209.104.5.198/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12464784&postcount=242) I also pointed out that the relative rarity of personal property ownership in the region significantly complicated questions as to who was entitled to what land, even if we accepted that 194 was gospel. And that as such talking about a sweeping Right of Return without context was a fool’s errand. > [@](#): > > He has continually excused an obviously racist immigration law that prohibits any inhabitants from gaining citizenship by marriage This is just stupid. And notice, no cite. > [@](#): > > Even Finn doesn’t make that sort of connection. Another veiled accusation that I make wild connections to anti-Semitism. For which he has yet to provide a single cite. But he’s still speaking from a position of overwhelming paranoia and convinced that I’ve not only called him an anti-Semite, but everybody who disagrees with me on the subject. He’s kookoo for Persecution Puffs. > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > And what sort of assumptions have I made other than that they wouldn’t have Palestinian sympathies? Now the question is, is it really true that he doesn’t understand the error of assuming someone’s politics based on their ethnicity? Or for that matter, that there aren’t plenty of Jews in general and Israelis Jews in specific who are outspoken critics of Israeli policy wrt the Palestinians? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/394 "2011-03-11T03:23:22Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Then I’m not sure what “spot the Jew” is and how I can read this other than as an accusation of antisemitism. > > And what sort of assumptions have I made other than that they wouldn’t have Palestinian sympathies? That’s a rather large and quite moronic assumption that only an anti-Semite or an ignoramus would make. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/395 "2011-03-11T05:54:46Z")
You might want to ease off. Poor kid seems to have a complex. I’m trying to picture what daily life is like for him… Cashier: You’re short a nickle, sir. Damuri: I am not an anti-Semite!!! ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/396 "2011-03-11T06:20:42Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > He does no such thing. He’s doing it again. He’s doing it RIGHT NOW. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/397 "2011-03-11T08:55:08Z")
I’m going to do my part in shortening some of **FA** ’s posts. I went back and tried to find my offending claim. Indeed, I did find it at post 355 above: > [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > True, he doesn’t refer to his critics being gentiles. **He calls them anti-semites**. Can you be jewish and an anti-semite at the same time? I thought the term for that particular category of person was “self-loathing jew”. > > Seriously, \*\*FinnAgain \*\*is all sorts of nuts. Picture a walking can of Planters Party Mix. He is obsessed with jews and anti-semites. Anyone that doesn’t agree with him is an anti-semite. If you don’t believe me, start from the beginning of this thread and read his posts. They are not the posts of a rational human being. bolding mine So, I did say it once in the thread. \*\*FA \*\*wanted an example, so I actually went back and looked for one. In this particular thread, there isn’t one. So, I was wrong to state that \*\*FA \*\*calls anyone but \*\*RedFury \*\*an anti-semite in this thread. My apologies. Now before \*\*FA \*\*starts screaming that I meant more that just this thread, I didn’t. If you read the next paragraph, I specifically suggest people go to the beginning of this thread and read his posts. I also state in that paragraph that “Anyone who doesn’t agree with him is an anti-semite”. I still believe this and stand by it. \*\*FA \*\*does give me the impression that when it comes to the subject of Israel, Zionism, or any other tangential topic, if you don’t agree with his PoV, it only follows that you are an anti-semite or harbor anti-semitic beliefs. As I re-read through this thread, I can see why I thought that he actually called other folks anti-semites. He uses the label so often, I made the incorrect leap. I realize that I’m not the only one. The first page of postings is very telling. **Captain Zombie** , for example > [@Captain Zombie](#): > > For one that’s not a troll, he sure seems to get a hard on everytime he accuses someone else of being a troll/liar. And dont forget “weaselwords”, by which he will tell you what your own words actually mean,\*\* invariably this will lead to your words really meaning you’re an avid Mein Kampf reader, so he can call you antisemite as well.\*\* bolding mine. **CZ** makes the same mistake I made in this thread (and in reading this thread, I believe there are a couple of other examples, but I’ll stick with one), which, after reading them, I made the assumption that this is a behavior that many believe to be true of **FA** ’s. **CZ** , though spells out something more important. He defines **FA** ’s modus operandi in the bolded text. I think this is how it happens, and it makes perfect sense. I do think people should go back to page one of this thread and read **FA** ’s posts. As I mentioned before, they are not the posts of a rational human being. Rather, they are the postings of an extremely paranoid individual. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/398 "2011-03-11T09:11:17Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > He didn’t accuse you of anti-Semitism, merely of playing “spot the Jew” which you’ve done on this very thread. > > Moreover, you’ve made it clear you’re happy to make assumptions about Jews(such as Henry Kissinger) and people you think are Jewish(Madeline Albright) based on their ethnicity. Tell me. Is playing “Spot The Jew” not an implication of anti-semitic leanings? Or is it a matter of HOW one Spots The Jew? that determines their anti-semitic leanings? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/399 "2011-03-11T09:26:36Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Tell me. Is playing “Spot The Jew” not an implication of anti-semitic leanings? > > Or is it a matter of HOW one Spots The Jew? that determines their anti-semitic leanings? What is your definition of anti-Semitism? ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/400 "2011-03-11T12:06:01Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > What is your definition of anti-Semitism? answer my questions first, please. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787.md?page=21)