# FinnAgain is kind of a shitty person.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 27, 2011, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787 "2011-02-27T08:42:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/421 "2011-03-14T15:11:04Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I demand an apology for this unfair assessment of my apology-hunger.

Alright. I apologize.

Dude, I was more concerned that you were making yourself look bad than Finns’ complete dickatude. It took a long time before I reconciled myself with not being able to wring some snapperheads neck, it being the internet and all.

And as for you Finn, yeah, you hate on people you disagree with to your hearts content, but in the long run you’re just adding to the problem, not helping it.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/422 "2011-03-15T19:51:26Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> I knew she’d just continue to troll instead of actually answering, let alone rebutting what I pointed out.

Oh honey, don’t you get it yet? I’ve never said you’re _wrong_–just that you’re an incredibly tedious, one-note poster. You’re the kind of person who hurts everybody else by making legitimate accusations look crazy by association: you give everybody an excuse to gloss over what you’re saying by how you say it. And you’re a bit of a hypocrite since you’re getting all chummy with **mag31435431321**.

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Ooh! Ooh! Can I do this one?

Lovely work.

Finn’s contributions over the weekend spoilered to prevent wall-o’text:

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> trolling

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> lied

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> making things up […] Big Lie […] “anti-Semite” […] lied […] making it up […] lies […] racist […] trolling […] making shit up

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> anti-Semite

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> almost universally imaginary […] dishonesty. […] anti-Semitism. […] anti-Semite,

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> full of shit, […] lie. […] lie. […] lies […] “anti-Semitism” […] anti-Semitism […] making things up.

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> anti-Semitism […] anti-Semites […] anti-Semite. […] full of shit. […] lie […] racist

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> Troll […] lie. […] Big Lie […] lie […] lying […] anti-Semitism

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> anti-Semites

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> racism […] racism, bigotry, homophobia, Islamophibia, etc. […] hating people because of their ethnicity […] racist, […] Big Lie […] anti-Semite

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/423 "2011-03-15T20:09:14Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I find it hilarous that resident anti-Muslim bigot **magellan010651065431** is leaping to the defense of **Finn** , when \*\*Finn \*\*has called out \*\*RedFury \*\*for doing \*the exact same thing \*\*\*mag \*\*does, only to Jews instead of Muslims (i.e., questioning their loyalty on the basis of a cultural/religious affiliation).

To clarify, I’m “anti murderous barbarians who insist on living in the 7th century”. And would like to stop them before they carry out their uncivilized wishes. Now, if YOU conflate that group with Muslims in general, I’d say you’re the bigot. But I could see how you could be confused.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/424 "2011-03-15T20:14:43Z")

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> [@Omegaman](#):
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> And as for you Finn, yeah, you hate on people you disagree with

Like Ibn, who I’ve gone on record as thanking for simply posting here? Or any number of people who I’ve disagreed with (say, DSeid) on the subject of Israel, the proper reactions to racism, etc… without “hating”?

I understand the need for this bit of nonsense, I really do. It’s easier to try to handwave something away with fiction that debunk it based on facts. But the fact is that I’m only ever-so-mean to people who are stupid, wilfully ignorant and/or dishonest, and I even go out of my way to be patient with some people who are stupid. You can check my initial interactions with Damuri, for example, where I did my best to educate him on the relevant facts before his willful ignorance and disingenuous distortions earned him an adversarial stance.

> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I’ve never said you’re _wrong_–just that you’re an incredibly tedious, one-note poster.

Like I said, you’re trolling. Even now that you admit that I’m right, you want to troll me into shutting up about correct accusations. Naturally, you’re more than a bit dishonest as well (I guess that goes along with the trolling), as the majority of your trolling has not been about accusations that I made, but responding to _other people’s claims that I’d made certain accusations._ As you’re just a troll, you’ve tried to get me to shut up about the facts, and haven’t spared a word for their lies about me. But that’s just coincidental, naturally. :smack:

Just like you’ve added a bit more trolling about certain phrases, like “big lie”, despite the fact that numerous people in the thread really have been using the Big Lie tactic and hoping that lying about me, constantly, will trick people. One moron was even fooled by your trolling and admitted that part of the reason he bought into the lie was that your trolling ‘showed’ how I kept calling people anti-semites. I guess you can feel confident in the fact that you’re able to fool people who are borderline-retarded. If you need that feather in your cap, I suppose.

> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> And you’re a bit of a hypocrite since you’re getting all chummy with **mag31435431321**.

You’re not very good with being honest, are you?  
Magellan has in general supported things I’ve said and/or me personally in this thread. You know full well that’s hardly an act of hypocrisy on my part.  
But you’re here to be a jerk and to try to shut me up by trolling me (poorly), not to uphold accuracy.

Speaking of how you are an actual hypocrite, by the way, you are a tedious one-note troll who has simply engaged in relentless, unoriginal, obvious trolling again and again and again and again. And you’re trolling me, not because I’m actually a one-note poster, but because people are repeatedly using the same lies over and over again.  
Which, naturally, you don’t see fit to mention but tacitly support by trying to troll me into silence should I be uppity enough to point out the facts.

You can go away any time now. I’m sure 4chan could use someone of your caliber.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/425 "2011-03-15T20:14:43Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> To clarify, I’m “anti murderous barbarians who insist on living in the 7th century”. And would like to stop them before they carry out their uncivilized wishes. Now, if YOU conflate that group with Muslims in general, I’d say you’re the bigot. But I could see how you could be confused.

This is a perfectly entertaining pitting of Finn, you go get your own thread.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/426 "2011-03-16T13:47:29Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> racism, […] fiction […] dishonest, […] trolling. […] troll […] dishonest […] trolling […] trolling […] troll, […] lies […] trolling […] “big lie”, […] Big Lie […] trolling […] lie […] trolling […] anti-semites. […] not very good with being honest, […] trolling […] troll […] trolling […] trolling […] lies […] troll

Oh my god. You really \*do \*try to get women to go out with you by telling them they’re retarded and the only way to prove that they’re not retarded is to sleep with you. I’m so sorry–you must be terribly lonely.

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**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/427 "2011-03-16T15:14:47Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> To clarify, I’m “anti murderous barbarians who insist on living in the 7th century”. And would like to stop them before they carry out their uncivilized wishes. Now, if YOU conflate that group with Muslims in general, I’d say you’re the bigot. But I could see how you could be confused.

The seventh century? From your lofty position in the tenth century, you think you can criticize? And frankly, I’d say that anybody who uses the word ‘barbarian’ on a whole huge religion needs to get a perspective adjustment.

Oh, and by the way? The whole, lame, attempted switcheroo there is getting to be old hat. “I JUST said blah blah blah, YOU’RE the real bigot if you think I meant all Muslims.” It’s pretty apparent that you do mean all MUslims.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/428 "2011-03-16T16:09:03Z")

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> [@margin](#):
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> The seventh century? From your lofty position in the tenth century, you think you can criticize? And frankly, I’d say that anybody who uses the word ‘barbarian’ on a whole huge religion needs to get a perspective adjustment.
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> Oh, and by the way? The whole, lame, attempted switcheroo there is getting to be old hat. “I JUST said blah blah blah, YOU’RE the real bigot if you think I meant all Muslims.” It’s pretty apparent that you do mean all MUslims.

Wrong. Not all Muslims are barbarians. I beleive there are planty of Muslims who are as civilized and peace loving as you (I assume) or I. But a good number of the barbarians trying to kill us _are_ Muslims. So, how about you do something novel and try arguing against what I actually believe? And why don’t you go do it in an appropriate thread? Another novel idea for you evidently, BB-brain.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/429 "2011-03-16T16:31:48Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> And why don’t you go do it in an appropriate thread?

Snerk.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/430 "2011-03-16T18:02:36Z")

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> [@Omegaman](#):
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> Alright. I apologize.
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> Dude, I was more concerned that you were making yourself look bad than Finns’ complete dickatude. It took a long time before I reconciled myself with not being able to wring some snapperheads neck, it being the internet and all.

I was kidding about the apology. And I know arguing with Finn is nearly pointless, but isn’t everything in the long run?

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> And as for you Finn, yeah, you hate on people you disagree with to your hearts content, but in the long run you’re just adding to the problem, not helping it.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/431 "2011-03-16T18:19:37Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Oh my god. You really \*do \*try to get women to go out with you by telling them they’re retarded and the only way to prove that they’re not retarded is to sleep with you. I’m so sorry–you must be terribly lonely.

Oh my god, you really _do_ relentlessly troll someone through several threads, and then hop up on the cross and moan about how how awful it is that they call you out rather than offering to braid your hair. I’m so sorry – you must be terribly stupid.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/432 "2011-03-16T20:41:20Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> …And I know arguing with Finn is nearly pointless, but isn’t everything in the long run?

No it isn’t. Feels great when you stop – whether it’s arguing with **Frothy** or banging your head against a wall.

Don’t believe me? Try either.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/433 "2011-03-17T00:00:31Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Oh my god, you really _do_ relentlessly troll someone through several threads, and then hop up on the cross and moan about how how awful it is that they call you out rather than offering to braid your hair. I’m so sorry – you must be terribly stupid.

Yeah! You tell that uppity bitch what’s up!

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/434 "2011-03-17T00:49:36Z")

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Oh, man…look at those cavemen go!

It’s the freakiest show.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/435 "2011-03-17T03:57:10Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Oh, man…look at those cavemen go!
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> It’s the freakiest show.

Didn’t we just have a\* lawman beating up the wrong guy\* thread?

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/436 "2011-03-17T04:30:45Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Oh, man…look at those cavemen go!

AARRGGG. Curse you! I’ll have that song in my head for a week.

::looks around:: Hmm, sure is a lot of froth in here…

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/437 "2011-03-17T14:52:23Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> To clarify, I’m “anti murderous barbarians who insist on living in the 7th century”. And would like to stop them before they carry out their uncivilized wishes. Now, if YOU conflate that group with Muslims in general, I’d say you’re the bigot. But I could see how you could be confused.

Magellan, it is beyond clear that your position is that we should investigate ALL muslims to see if they warrant even FURTHER investigation. Your position has been that “muslimness should be the first filter”

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/438 "2011-03-17T14:58:01Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> No it isn’t. Feels great when you stop – whether it’s arguing with **Frothy** or banging your head against a wall.
> 
> Don’t believe me? Try either.

Just put Finn on ignore, it will improve your perception of Israel generally and make conversations with less annoying Israel apologists possible.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/439 "2011-03-17T17:45:52Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Magellan, it is beyond clear that your position is that we should investigate ALL muslims to see if they warrant even FURTHER investigation.

Oh, really? Well then I’ll ask you to point to where in all my posts on this subject I even once said that we should investigate all Muslims. Let me save you all the search time. It doesn’t exist. It doesn’t exist because I didn’t say it. And I didn’t say it because that is NOT my position.

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Your position has been that “muslimness should be the first filter”

Not only _has_ that been my position, it _is_ my position. But this in no way means that I advocate investigating all the individuals identified by the first (of many) filters. I don’t. How you could read my posts and not get that is baffling.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/440 "2011-03-17T19:09:53Z")

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Dammit, you two, it’s like you didn’t even READ Post 425. You’re sucking the humor out.

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