# FinnAgain is kind of a shitty person. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 27, 2011, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787 "2011-02-27T08:42:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/441 "2011-03-17T20:06:11Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Wrong. Not all Muslims are barbarians. I beleive there are planty of Muslims who are as civilized and peace loving as you (I assume) or I. But a good number of the barbarians trying to kill us _are_ Muslims. So, how about you do something novel and try arguing against what I actually believe? And why don’t you go do it in an appropriate thread? Another novel idea for you evidently, BB-brain. Yeah, it’s not like anybody could notice you’re obsessed with Muslims. And to the extent that there’s car bombings, IED attacks, suicide bombers in the continental United States every day, I can certainly see why. It’s a concerted campaign of terror. I mean, to hear you go on, one would never think that the sum total of attacks excluding 9/11 in the US—are a loser with a shitty shoe bomb, a loser with a shitty underwear bomb, and a loser with an _exceptionally_ shitty car bomb, none of whose components were hitched together. What kind of a fucking coward are you? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/442 "2011-03-18T03:44:18Z")
> [@margin](#): > > Yeah, it’s not like anybody could notice you’re obsessed with Muslims. And to the extent that there’s car bombings, IED attacks, suicide bombers in the continental United States every day, I can certainly see why. It’s a concerted campaign of terror. I mean, to hear you go on, one would never think that the sum total of attacks excluding 9/11 in the US—are a loser with a shitty shoe bomb, a loser with a shitty underwear bomb, and a loser with an _exceptionally_ shitty car bomb, none of whose components were hitched together. What kind of a fucking coward are you? I certainly don’t agree with Magellan and have butted heads with him, but that’s not remotely close to the sum total of attacks on American soil. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/443 "2011-03-18T03:50:13Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > I certainly don’t agree with Magellan and have butted heads with him, but that’s not remotely close to the sum total of attacks on American soil. Oh, yeah, that’s right. There was that guy who was murdered by his wife, whom he battered for years, who had nuclear material in his basement…Oh, wait, he was white. And Xtian. And there was that guy who killed that abortion doctor. Oh, wait. And then there was that guy who sent out bombs…and that other guys who mailed bombs and…Oh, wait. Oh, you mean, are you talking about those various losers who were heavily recruited by the FBI, the FBI’s paid informants—many of whom were bargaining for plea deals—and the FBI’s money? I’m still especially amused by the assholes who were going to take blowtorches to the Brooklyn Bridge. I’m terrorized all right. Add up the terrorist acts committed by good white Xtian men, and Muslims, and let me know. Given that there’s only a couple of million to a few million Muslims in this country, versus God only knows how many radical white dudes who are obsessed with the Black Muslim Kenyan foreigner in the White House…this is quite the dilemma. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/444 "2011-03-18T03:51:53Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Just put Finn on ignore, it will improve your perception of Israel generally and make conversations with less annoying Israel apologists possible. Or, like you, it will cause them to talk about me _constantly_, often making a point to mention many, many times who they are “ignoring” me. Sometimes even they will “ignore” me, over and over and over, in a Pit thread that’s all about me. Of course, as you’re not brilliant, maybe you can ask someone smarter than you to explain what type of thinking “I have a negative opinion of an entire nation of people due to one person”, evinces. And as you’ve gone on record stating that everybody is an “Israeli apologist” if they disagree with your admitted ignorance-driven narrative in which you reflexively cram any new fact into an anti-Israel claim rather than evaluating it on its merits, and you’ve gone as far as to suggest that Ibn is an Israeli apologist for pointing out that you’re wilfully ignorant… that’s probably also worth less than your normal spew, too. It’s also telling that you find anybody merely disagreeing with your ignorance-driven narrative to be “annoying”. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/445 "2011-03-18T03:53:23Z")
Margin. Would you mind translating that into English? I don’t speak gibberish. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/446 "2011-03-18T04:09:22Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Margin. > > Would you mind translating that into English? > > I don’t speak gibberish. Translation: I don’t have the guts to argue the basic point that nutty, angry, hateful white dudes outnumber such Muslims in the US and am resorting to insults to try and shy away from that. Thanks for playing! ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/447 "2011-03-18T04:14:39Z")
> [@margin](#): > > Translation: I don’t have the guts to argue the basic point that nutty, angry, hateful white dudes outnumber such Muslims in the US and am resorting to insults to try and shy away from that. Thanks for playing! If I contested that argument, you’d have a point, but I didn’t so you don’t. Also, you might want to learn a little about me before implying I’m an Islamophobic racist. For the record, I’m not white and I am a Muslim. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/448 "2011-03-18T04:34:23Z")
Margin is off her meds. She might be a bit less nutty when she starts taking them again. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/449 "2011-03-18T05:31:11Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > If I contested that argument, you’d have a point, but I didn’t so you don’t. > > Also, you might want to learn a little about me before implying I’m an Islamophobic racist. > > For the record, I’m not white and I am a Muslim. You didn’t contest my point? How was I to tell when you were so fucking insulting about it? “Can you translate that from gibberish?” Excuse me for not being psychic. Feel better now? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/450 "2011-03-18T05:39:34Z")
> [@margin](#): > > How was I to tell when you were so fucking insulting about it? Have you tried not being insane? Does wonders for the ability to understand what other people are talking about. Take your meds. You responded to Ibn’s very reasonable point with gibberish ranting. And, (hint) most likely Ibn isn’t contesting your point about relative numbers because it has absolutely nothing to do with what he said, which was that the incidents of terrorism you mentioned were not the sum-total. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/451 "2011-03-18T05:55:11Z")
> [@margin](#): > > You didn’t contest my point? How was I to tell when you were so fucking insulting about it? “Can you translate that from gibberish?” Excuse me for not being psychic. Feel better now? And this is one of the guys I was referring to: [http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/99263.html](http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/99263.html) You’ll note the reference to nuclear material, which I mentioned in my initial comment. This is the particular case I had in mind. Apparently no one else heard of this guy. James G. Cummings was shot to death by his wife, whom FinnAgain will now call a crazy bitch man hater or something. No doubt he will use some variation of the concept of crazy. > [@](#): > > Report: ‘Dirty bomb’ parts found in slain man’s home > > Agency says radioactive materials recovered in home of man allegedly slain by his wife > 2/10/09 10:22 pm Updated: 2/11/09 12:59 pm > By Walter Griffin > BDN Staff > BDN FILE PHOTO > Maine State Police Detective Bryant Jacques (left) takes empty boxes into the Cummings home on Dec. 10, 2008, during the investigation into the killing of James Cummings the day before. > > BELFAST, Maine — James G. Cummings, who police say was shot to death by his wife two months ago, allegedly had a cache of radioactive materials in his home suitable for building a “dirty bomb.” > > According to an FBI field intelligence report from the Washington Regional Threat and Analysis Center posted online by WikiLeaks, an organization that posts leaked documents, an investigation into the case revealed that radioactive materials were removed from Cummings’ home after his shooting death on Dec. 9. > > The report posted on the WikiLeaks Web site states that “On 9 December 2008, radiological dispersal device components and literature, and radioactive materials, were discovered at the Maine residence of an identified deceased [person] James Cummings.” > > The section referring to Cummings can be read here. > > It says that four 1-gallon containers of 35 percent hydrogen peroxide, uranium, thorium, lithium metal, thermite, aluminum powder, beryllium, boron, black iron oxide and magnesium ribbon were found in the home. > > Also found was literature on how to build “dirty bombs” and information about cesium-137, strontium-90 and cobalt-60, radioactive materials. The FBI report also stated there was evidence linking James Cummings to white supremacist groups. This would seem to confirm observations by local tradesmen who worked at the Cummings home that he was an ardent admirer of Adolf Hitler and had a collection of Nazi memorabilia around the house, including a prominently displayed flag with swastika. Cummings claimed to have pieces of Hitler’s personal silverware and place settings, painter Mike Robbins said a few days after the shooting." You want a clarification next time, ask for one. Call it gibberish and you’re just another asshole–and I’ll treat you like it, too. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/452 "2011-03-18T06:01:57Z")
Are you under the impression that you’re actually making a good or even coherent argument. Please go back and reread what I actually said. I merely pointed out that the “list” of Muslim terrorists you provided wasn’t remotely close to the “sum total”. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/453 "2011-03-18T06:24:11Z")
> [@margin](#): > > James G. Cummings was shot to death by his wife, whom FinnAgain will now call a crazy bitch man hater or something. Just to be clear, _you_ are a sexist bitch who rants about posters acting out of “male privilege” because people online point out that you’re being insane. Also, because you are insane, you see sexism in other people. I, on the other hand, have not called the neo-Nazi’s wife any names for shooting him. That’s your paranoia talking. ---
**Author:** ![SecondJudith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@SecondJudith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecondJudith)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/454 "2011-03-18T09:57:36Z")
You have to be insane to identify sexism in other people? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/455 "2011-03-18T10:20:30Z")
Rather obviously, no. But because _margin_ is insane, _she_ imagines sexism all over the place. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/456 "2011-03-18T15:20:13Z")
These pittings are much more entertaining since **Finn** started bringing his imaginary friend **Ibn**. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/457 "2011-03-18T15:28:53Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Oh, really? Well then I’ll ask you to point to where in all my posts on this subject I even once said that we should investigate all Muslims. Let me save you all the search time. It doesn’t exist. It doesn’t exist because I didn’t say it. And I didn’t say it because that is NOT my position. > > Not only _has_ that been my position, it _is_ my position. But this in no way means that I advocate investigating all the individuals identified by the first (of many) filters. I don’t. How you could read my posts and not get that is baffling. Not to derail a perfectly good pitting of a really shitty person but I cite every thread where you advocate using “muslimness” as a filter. You have basically said, take all the msulims and look to see if there are other indicia of radicalization and have explicitly rejected the notions of simply filtering for the indicia of radicalization to begin with. What you say in your initial proposition and what you end up saying in defense of that position are two entirely different things. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/458 "2011-03-18T16:27:18Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Are you under the impression that you’re actually making a good or even coherent argument. > > Please go back and reread what I actually said. > > I merely pointed out that the “list” of Muslim terrorists you provided wasn’t remotely close to the “sum total”. Christ on a fuckin’ pony, you lying sack of shit. Did I say that was the sum total? Are you so fucking stupid you’re going to try to claim that a couple of million Muslims contribute more terrorists than the far larger population of angry white assholes? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/459 "2011-03-18T16:48:37Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > These pittings are much more entertaining since **Finn** started bringing his imaginary friend **Ibn**. And it’ll get even more entertaining when you resurrect your fantasies about “Jewish supremacists” (an accusation you made [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13011064&postcount=119) against **DSeid** , one of the most fair-minded and best-informed posters on the Dope). In keeping with your philosophy that one mustn’t stigmatize bigots for fear they’ll be driven underground, maybe we should encourage you to let 'er rip. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/460 "2011-03-18T19:07:58Z")
> [@margin](#): > > Christ on a fuckin’ pony, you lying sack of shit. Did I say that was the sum total? > > Are you so fucking stupid you’re going to try to claim that a couple of million Muslims contribute more terrorists than the far larger population of angry white assholes? Rant crazy person, rant! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787.md?page=24)