# FinnAgain is kind of a shitty person. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 27, 2011, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787 "2011-02-27T08:42:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/81 "2011-02-28T07:52:51Z")
WTF, is that Mothra against Godzilla? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/82 "2011-02-28T07:55:48Z")
It’s almost as if commie is parroting the exact same lies and trolling that others use. How surprising. I’m sure in trouble now, the dunces have formed a confederacy. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/83 "2011-02-28T08:20:18Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > He dances around the edges of the rules and backs off immediately when he a moderator pipes up. Then he repeats the same behaviour in another thread ad nauseum but the mods never seem to see a pattern. > > He will not directly accuse me of anti-semitism but if I criticize Israel, he will eventually imply that I am an anti-semite. Of course he won’t say “Damuri is an anti-semite” he will say “gee, Israel isn’t as bad as some other countries and yet Damuri seems to bash on Israel, I wonder what it is about Israel that makes you bash on Israel… Gee I wonder what that could possibly be” but he won’t actually call me an anti-semite (or at least I don’t remember him ever doing so). > > He is not interested in debate, he sees almost all critics of Israel as anti-semites and figures anyone that would criticize Israel to begin with is a lost cause to begin with so he spends ZERO effort in trying to convince them of anything. He simply attacks. > > Do yourself a favor and just put him on ignore. Life is too short for his brand of bullshit. Some people think that it is their duty to intellectually defend Israel on the internet against all comers because it is good for Israel and Jews in general. The problem with FinnAgain (which is an Irish user name) is that he is so bereft of any cogent argument other than ad hominem that he does more damage to Israel than help. Alessan is a much, much better pro-Israel poster who is actually informative and persuasive on the subject. FinnAgain undoes much of what people like Alessan accomplish in the stroke of a few ad hominems. Kinda like Shimon Peres makes Israel appear respectable and Benjamin Netanyahu makes Israel look like lawless belligerent idiots. Granted they both may have the same policies on the ground, but I am deeply disinclined to help assholes despite the fact that they may represent people who need help. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/84 "2011-02-28T10:03:17Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I have Finn on my ignore list, and it works quite well. If I ever do decide to start ignoring, he’s the first on the list. Mostly for the vitriol, but also his beloved “No, u!” tactic of dragging South Africa into completely unrelated discussions with me. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/85 "2011-02-28T10:10:52Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > FinnAgain undoes much of what people like Alessan accomplish in the stroke of a few ad hominems. Yeah - I’m not anti-Semitic, but \*\*Finn \*\*kind of makes me want to be. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/86 "2011-02-28T14:05:19Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Yeah - I’m not anti-Semitic, but \*\*Finn \*\*kind of makes me want to be. What a knee slapper! “I don’t hate blacks, but I’m thinking maybe I should.” Oh, I’m sorry, does that sound like a “No U”, you idiot? Speaking of how you’re an idiot… > [@MrDibble](#): > > his beloved “No, u!” tactic of dragging South Africa into completely unrelated discussions with me. Unless I miss my guess, you’re full of shit. SA came up in precisely one discussion, and not as any sort of digression, either. Certainly not as a “no U!” argument. You claimed it happened in another thread, but as you’re not particularly intelligent, or honest, I wouldn’t believe that without a cite. Especially since you were wildly wrong the one time I remember where you did claim it.[Here, this is the link to the other thread in question](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=552673&highlight=espionage), why don’t you point out the offending post(s)? As near as I can tell you are simply being pretty dumb on the issue and you think that it was a “No U!” to point out that espionage agencies routinely use fake passports as a means of obtaining covert identities. Then again you are stupid enough that in a thread you objected to me putting an action I explicitly called “morally reprehensible” into a temporal context and moaned about how, really, I should just engage in some hate. Even when [I used an analogy that made it clear that you could view an action as morally reprehensible and still discuss the context in which it occurred](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12497010&postcount=79), you just didn’t get it. I mean, really, [you simply could not comprehend.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12497229&postcount=80) Pointing out the basic facts,[again](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12497250&postcount=81), didn’t seem to help you. Thankfully [another poster tried to help you understand how stupid you were being](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12497273&postcount=82), but it didn’t work. As for the one “No U!” event which actually has a basic in anything at all that really happened? What actually happened was that you supported bigotry against Americans, as people, not against the America government or what have you. In point of fact you agreed with a statement that most Americans are ‘near sociopaths’. [I pointed out that, as a South African, you’d probably feel different if someone was talking about how awful South Africans are.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13334987&postcount=73) You responded by saying that of course[you weren’t a bigot, because you had a “rational” dislike for “collective” America](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13336551&postcount=77). You were also stupid enough to think that _not wanting to be thought of in a negative light because of the place of your birth_ was some sort of issue of _nationalism._ You were actually so stupid that you thought pointing out your hypocrisy was a “tu quoque”. As usual, [I tried to educate you](http://boards.straightdope.co/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13336734&postcount=79) with a [dose of grandmotherly kindness](http://boards.straightdope.co/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13339424&postcount=98). Didn’t work. You can’t build a cathedral without stone and you can’t make someone think if their neurons aren’t on speaking terms. Now, to drive the point home against that you’re a hypocrite, I could’ve added a facetious “and of course you’re unable to understand the simplest concepts, you’re South African.” But, well, you’re kinda not very bright and you’d probably babble against about how I was “trying to use a tu quoque” and how that’d be an issue of “nationalism”. Then again, I could also point out your hypocrisy by saying “I’ve never wanted to join the KKK, but Dibble is making me want to”, but you probably wouldn’t comprehend that, either. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/87 "2011-02-28T15:28:02Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > That’s a way of saying it. > [QUOTE=Miller] > I think the worst thing I could say about FinnAgain is that he has no ability to tell when a fight isn’t worth his time. [/QUOTE] And you call other people stupid? Whew! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/88 "2011-02-28T15:36:29Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > And you call other people stupid? Whew! I knew what he meant. That’s why I responded to it. Magellan, you aren’t up this, maybe there is a gay-bashing thread you can really shine in? ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/89 "2011-02-28T15:45:23Z")
It takes a SPECIAL kind of idiot to make **magellan01** look good. Fortunately, \*\*Lobohan \*\*is on the case. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/90 "2011-02-28T15:51:36Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I knew what he meant. That’s why I responded to it. Magellan, you aren’t up this, maybe there is a gay-bashing thread you can really shine in? HA! Touchy, touchy. Hey, don’t blame me, **Chuckle Head** , because you’re 1) stupid and 2) so stupid that you don’t know when you’ve been insulted and should keep your head down. Only you would try to sidle up to a guy who just pissed on your shoes. And you call other people stupid? NOW, THAT IS SOME FUNNY SHIT! Thanks for starting this thread. It makes your stupidity, shitty attitude, and bad form a slightly bit more evident. Nice job, **Lobotomy Boy**! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/91 "2011-02-28T15:53:32Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > It takes a SPECIAL kind of idiot to make **magellan01** look good. > > Fortunately, \*\*Lobohan \*\*is on the case. Thank—hey, wait a minute… ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/92 "2011-02-28T16:00:33Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > It takes a SPECIAL kind of idiot to make **magellan01** look good. > > Fortunately, \*\*Lobohan \*\*is on the case. Isn’t there a thread in the game room you should be lighting up with your smile? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/93 "2011-02-28T16:04:25Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > HA! Touchy, touchy. Hey, don’t blame me, **Chuckle Head** , because you’re 1) stupid and 2) so stupid that you don’t know when you’ve been insulted and should keep your head down. Only you would try to sidle up to a guy who just pissed on your shoes. And you call other people stupid? > > NOW, THAT IS SOME FUNNY SHIT! > > Thanks for starting this thread. It makes your stupidity, shitty attitude, and bad form a slightly bit more evident. Nice job, **Lobotomy Boy**! 😃 I can’t make you believe me. But if you read the posts you’d understand. I defended my actions because I thought Miller was making a stupid judgement. Finn is probably sane for 90% of his posts. He’s just a real shitbag the rest of the time. A ratio you would do well to strive for. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/94 "2011-02-28T16:11:11Z")
“Mommy mommy mommy, I said Finn was a troll and I lied and claimed that a time he accused one anti-Semite of racism was really a spate of hurled accusations and and and and and _then he was mean to me! It’s not faiiiiir, don’t let that mean shitbag fight back!_” Keep on keeping on. The best thing to do when you’re in a hole is to dig with all your might. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/95 "2011-02-28T16:12:46Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I can’t make you believe me. But if you read the posts you’d understand. > > I defended my actions because I thought Miller was making a stupid judgement. Finn is probably sane for 90% of his posts. He’s just a real shitbag the rest of the time. A ratio you would do well to strive for. 😃 Oh, I see now. **Miller** is the stupid one. _I’m_ the stupid one. **FinnAgain** is the stupid one. **Zeriel** belongs in the game room. **Assi** is the stupid one. Wow, you’ve convinced me. If only there was some other option, some other possibility. Hmmm. Keep posting, **Lobotomy Boy**. You’re doing really well. Keep up the good work. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/96 "2011-02-28T16:20:02Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Oh, I see now. **Miller** is the stupid one. _I’m_ the stupid one. **FinnAgain** is the stupid one. **Zeriel** belongs in the game room. **Assi** is the stupid one. Miller made a stupid call, in that instance. You are genuinely slow and shouldn’t be allowed to drive. Finn is far from stupid, he’s orders of magnitude smarter than you, he is however, against all odds, a bigger jerk. Zeriel’s movements aren’t constrained by me, and if you had an ounce of sense you’d understand that I was making a joke. Assi is most likely dimmer than you are. Which I understand is faint praise, but you deserve it. > [@](#): > > Wow, you’ve convinced me. If only there was some other option, some other possibility. Hmmm. I’m sure that if you keep focusing on it, someday the answer will come to you. 😃 > [@](#): > > Keep posting, **Lobotomy Boy**. You’re doing really well. Keep up the good work. Weak. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/97 "2011-02-28T16:26:23Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Miller made a stupid call, in that instance. You are genuinely slow and shouldn’t be allowed to drive. Finn is far from stupid, he’s orders of magnitude smarter than you, he is however, against all odds, a bigger jerk. Zeriel’s movements aren’t constrained by me, and if you had an ounce of sense you’d understand that I was making a joke. Assi is most likely dimmer than you are. Which I understand is faint praise, but you deserve it. > > I’m sure that if you keep focusing on it, someday the answer will come to you. 😃 > > Weak. Here, [let me help.](http://www.deere.com/en_US/cfd/construction/deere_const/backhoes/deere_backhoe_selection.html) I’d go with as much as your budget can handle. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/98 "2011-02-28T16:36:56Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Here, [let me help.](http://www.deere.com/en_US/cfd/construction/deere_const/backhoes/deere_backhoe_selection.html) I’d go with as much as your budget can handle. Will an earth mover allow me to dig though the bullshit you post so I can find the corn-nugget of substance? > [@FinnAgain](#): > > “Mommy mommy mommy, I said Finn was a troll and I lied and claimed that a time he accused one anti-Semite of racism was really a spate of hurled accusations and and and and and _then he was mean to me! It’s not faiiiiir, don’t let that mean shitbag fight back!_” > > Keep on keeping on. The best thing to do when you’re in a hole is to dig with all your might. You aren’t fighting back. You’re just fighting. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/99 "2011-02-28T17:09:59Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Morning Finn. Sorry if I’ve kept you up all night seething. Actually, no, I’m not sorry. I think it’s funny. Don’t burst a blood vessel! Too me this says you’re the one deciding to troll. Your op is dumb and your argument is weak overall. Also \*\*Finn \*\*is a pretty nice guy but not one to debate with unless you have your facts lined up. Being aggressive in defending his position is not rare in GD & the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/100 "2011-02-28T17:27:38Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Too me this says you’re the one deciding to troll. As I said earlier I made the thread because he way over-compensated and left it hanging in a closed thread in ATMB. I was trying to point out this his histrionics weren’t justified. When I woke up the next morning I found out he’d been raging all night, that is funny. > [@](#): > > Your op is dumb and your argument is weak overall. Look, maybe it is. But Finn’s response is that of a paranoid jerk. So I pitted him. You want a more reasoned argument, okay: I mentioned that Finn hurled accusations of anti-Semitism with abandon. He objected strongly. With rage and incoherent venom. I created this thread and even posted the thread I was thinking of when he hurled said accusations. I even made a block of text with the [salient words in red](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13512351&postcount=33). In that older thread, Finn accuses 'luci of defending racists and calls Redfury an anti-Semite countless times. Moreover, by responding violently to anyone that has a disagreement with him he’s trying to paint a reality that he’s fighting tooth and nail to defend Judaism and everyone around him is either a troll, or a nazi sympathizer. > [@](#): > > Also \*\*Finn \*\*is a pretty nice guy but not one to debate with unless you have your facts lined up. Being aggressive in defending his position is not rare in GD & the Pit. There’s aggressive and then there’s Finnspeak. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787.md?page=6)