# FinnAgain is kind of a shitty person. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 27, 2011, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787 "2011-02-27T08:42:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 469
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787/469 "2011-03-19T00:54:47Z")
For those curious of the context, by the way, in[yet another thread where Spoke was JAQing Off about a possible Jewish Menace](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13011064#post13011064) (this time a cabal of Jews who control Hollywood and who should be sued, just in case there’s any evidence that they actually do discriminate against anybody), DSeid pointed out that: > [@"Jews totally run Hollywood"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/112): > > No, I am not suggesting anything genetic. I am suggesting that it has to with more than a culture of achievement. After all Jews don’t achieve across the board. There are other cultural factors that have led to achievement in some very particular venues, probably two factors most of all, both a result of this: for many many hundreds of years Jews have been the outsider, the “other” in any society in which they have resided. An educated literate outsider group spread across cultures and communicating with each other. > > Being an outsider group gives you a different perspective, drives you to prove yourself sure, and coupled with a history of persecution, drives you to try to gain security and both acceptence and respect. But that different perspective brings a willingness to try different ideas. And is in the context of a religion that highlights its myths that have its heros arguing with God himself. When your culture isn’t completely part of the box, it is easier to think outside of it. > > Being spread out among the world’s cultures and traveling between them, having nothing but knowledge and the ideas picked up from around the world as a meaningful asset, results in a culture that tends to recombine those ideas into new ones. What is in that box can be used for something slightly different in this box if we just tweak it a little, and maybe mix it up with something from this other box too. New York in particular was home to Jews coming from around the world all stuck together in small neighborhoods and exchanging ideas and perspectives and ambition. After that, Spoke accused DSeid of “Jewish supremacism” ([a phrase he totally didn’t borrow from David Duke](http://www.davidduke.com/general/jewish-supremacism_129.html)). Spoke then, of course, made a rather limp nonpology, stating that he was sorry he accused DSeid of being a “bigot”, but even then blaming other people for his comment and said nothing about his accusation of “Jewish supremacism”. > [@"Jews totally run Hollywood"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/121): > > Actually, **DSeid** , I want to apologize for that last crack. Sincerely. I don’t think you are a bigot. > > All the veiled accusations of bigotry flying around this thread have me a little trigger-happy, I suppose. Later, even more bizarrely, Spoke went on to claim that what DSeid had really been doing was: > [@"Jews totally run Hollywood"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/196): > > talking about the innate superiority of Jews which causes them naturally to rise to the top of every field, I don’t know what you could call that except Jewish supremacism. **DSeid** assured us that was not his meaning and I took him at his word and apologized for the crack. Quite an odd mistake to make, consider that DSeid’s actual words were > [@](#): > > After all Jews don’t achieve across the board. There are other cultural factors that have led to achievement in some very particular venues Very strange that Spoke would see a claim of limited achievement in certain very particular venues as something that lets Jews " rise to the top of every field", and a claim that cultural factors were really “the innate superiority of Jews”, and that all that amounted to (not David Duke’s phrase, not David Duke’s phrase) “Jewish supremacism”. Luckily Spoke was a mensch and was kind enough to take DSeid’s at his word that he wasn’t one of those nasty Jewish supremacists. You know, like the ones who maybe but don’t definitely undermine the US government in order to betray the nation to foreign powers, and against whom we must be ever vigilant. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/finnagain-is-kind-of-a-shitty-person/572787)._