# Fired LAPD Cop On a Murderous Rampage in SoCal

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 8, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674 "2013-02-08T03:16:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/141 "2013-02-10T10:32:15Z")

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Yeah, Christopher Dorner fucked over two police officers’ families because he had a grudge about a career setback and now it seems like he’s on a goddamn _kill list_, if the reaction of the officers in Torrance is any indication of what they want to do to him. I hope other people who want to commit capital crimes over job angst heed this warning.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/142 "2013-02-10T11:06:59Z")

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> [@Honesty](#):
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> There are rare instances in which an injustice upon a person by an individual (or group) cannot be erased with “I’m sorry,” or by turning the other cheek. In these rare moments, _retribution_ is called for, an element of vengeance, of kind of restorative counterweight to force balance upon the scales of justice. This act serves as a much-needed warning to the functional sociopaths in positions of power and others: be careful who you fuck over.

Excerpt from your own manifesto?

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/143 "2013-02-10T11:48:13Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Saturday, Feb. 9
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> 11:30 a.m.: Charlie Sheen posts a video thanking Dorner for the kind words about the celebrity in his manifesto and calls on Dorner to contact him so they “can figure out how to end this thing.”

That should do it.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/144 "2013-02-10T12:12:49Z")

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Question for the mods. The uncut manifesto is out there, if I link to it, do I break any rules?

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/145 "2013-02-10T14:34:49Z")

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> [@Darth\_Nader](#):
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> Question for the mods. The uncut manifesto is out there, if I link to it, do I break any rules?

I linked to it [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15983708&postcount=337). It didn’t occur to me that there might be a rule against doing so.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/146 "2013-02-10T14:54:05Z")

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> [@Darth\_Nader](#):
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> Question for the mods. The uncut manifesto is out there, if I link to it, do I break any rules?

> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> I linked to it [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15983708&postcount=337). It didn’t occur to me that there might be a rule against doing so.

There isn’t.

And a general note to numerous participants – we’re in MPSIMS, not the Pit or GD. Please refrain from insults and other forms of snarkiness directed at another poster. If you’re not sure whether I might be talking to you, I probably am.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/147 "2013-02-10T15:17:01Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> **Honesty** , could you explain why Monica Quan and Kieth Lawrence deserved death? Neither of them were LAPD. They were university employees. Quan was the daughter of someone who tried to help Dorner, for crying out loud.
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> They weren’t even white.

**Honesty** , if you could answer this question, I would really appreciate it.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/148 "2013-02-10T17:14:32Z")

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I don’t understand what LAPD thinks they’re doing. They’ve reopened Christopher Dorner’s old disciplinary case. What kind of message is that sending? Gee I got fired unfairly. So now I’ll murder three people and threaten dozens more. Thats the last thing you want to do is to justify this a-hole’s repulsive actions.

Maybe the guy got canned unfairly four years ago. Right now it doesn’t matter. He’s a triple murderer that wants to kill more people.

Maybe, when Christopher Dorner is captured or dead they may want to review his old disciplinary hearing. But not now. Don’t reward this guy.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/149 "2013-02-10T17:15:45Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I don’t understand what LAPD thinks they’re doing.

Fucking things up pretty massively, from what I can tell.

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**Author:** ![the\_O](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@the\_O](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_O)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/150 "2013-02-10T17:18:14Z")

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If Dorner’s present day actions result in fewer officer/defenseless-civilian involved shootings in the future, then perhaps the end justifies the means.

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**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/151 "2013-02-10T17:23:22Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I don’t understand what LAPD thinks they’re doing. They’ve reopened Christopher Dorner’s old disciplinary case. What kind of message is that sending? Gee I got fired unfairly. So now I’ll murder three people and threaten dozens more. Thats the last thing you want to do is to justify this a-hole’s repulsive actions.
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> Maybe the guy got canned unfairly four years ago. Right now it doesn’t matter. He’s a triple murderer that wants to kill more people.
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> Maybe, when Christopher Dorner is captured or dead they may want to review his old disciplinary hearing. But not now. Don’t reward this guy.

They’re being transparent. Shocking, I know.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/152 "2013-02-10T17:23:49Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I don’t understand what LAPD thinks they’re doing. They’ve reopened Christopher Dorner’s old disciplinary case. What kind of message is that sending? …

The message they’re _trying_ to send to Dormer is, “Lighten up Francis! We’re reasonable people. We’ll look at your case again and do it justice. We get it! Stop the killing, please.”

It’s a bad idea that won’t work. Though it might have worked a little better if the cops weren’t going around spraying every pickup truck they see with gunfire.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/153 "2013-02-10T17:37:48Z")

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> [@Chief\_Pedant](#):
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> It’s kind of hard to stamp out white racism against blacks when a black man who feels he is a victim of white racism considers the appropriate remedy to be murdering an asian and a black in cold blood.
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> That sort of thing just typifies a stereotype against blacks that they are impulsively violent and stupid.
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> Hardly an effective approach.
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> Although this fellow has done is worsen racism.

…for racists.

Look, only racists look at the actions of an individual and judge a group by it. And they’re already racists, so it’s not like you’re losing ground or anything.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/154 "2013-02-10T17:44:02Z")

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I cannot believe anyone would defend his actions, certainly not in a way that would paint him as heroic. The Internet, disappointing me since 1996.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/155 "2013-02-10T19:12:11Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> …for racists.
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> Look, only racists look at the actions of an individual and judge a group by it. And they’re already racists, so it’s not like you’re losing ground or anything.

I believe everyone generalizes. It’s the racists who can’t realize that they do.  
And he isn’t helping.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/156 "2013-02-10T19:30:31Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I believe everyone generalizes. It’s the racists who can’t realize that they do.  
> And he isn’t helping.

Isn’t helping _what_?

Yes, racists will use this as an example of “black people behaving badly.” So? _They are already racists!_

Normal, sane, intelligent NONracists won’t see this as evidence for anything, because it isn’t. And of all the crimes this guy committed, I think it’s fairly idiotic to also decide he’s somehow failed his race. No one said shit about Jared Loughner’s race. Know why? Because stupid racists don’t “count” white people’s misbehavior. They’re morons, which is part of why they’re racists in the first place.

And I still maintain it would be a better world if people who used slurs lived in fear for their lives. Just the thought of it makes me smile…🙂

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/157 "2013-02-10T19:43:11Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> Isn’t helping _what_?
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> Yes, racists will use this as an example of “black people behaving badly.” So? _They are already racists!_

I would imagine that his actions cause people of various colors to feel “racist”.

I was surprised to see that the guy was Black. I felt sure that only White guys went nuts like this.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/158 "2013-02-10T20:02:05Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I would imagine that his actions cause people of various colors to feel “racist”.
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> I was surprised to see that the guy was Black. I felt sure that only White guys went nuts like this.

Well, that’s racism right there.

You aren’t making a great case here.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/159 "2013-02-10T20:39:26Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> The Internet, disappointing me since 1996.

Well, there is always the free porn.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fired-lapd-cop-on-a-murderous-rampage-in-socal/649674/160 "2013-02-10T20:45:41Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> Well, that’s racism right there.
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> You aren’t making a great case here.

I’m working with what, a guy folks admire for killing people?  
🙂

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