# Firefighters shot at in Coeur D’Alene, ID \[2025-06-29\]

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**Created:** [June 30, 2025, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefighters-shot-at-in-coeur-d-alene-id-2025-06-29/1020280 "2025-06-30T01:29:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefighters-shot-at-in-coeur-d-alene-id-2025-06-29/1020280/21 "2025-06-30T17:34:49Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#):
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> Was the fire set deliberately to bring the targets out?

Edit: Missed PG’s edict.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefighters-shot-at-in-coeur-d-alene-id-2025-06-29/1020280/22 "2025-06-30T17:41:14Z")

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The shooter has been identified as Wess Roley, a 20 year old. No information about motive yet.

> **[Suspected shooter in Idaho firefighter ambush identified](https://www.foxnews.com/us/suspected-shooter-idaho-firefighter-ambush-identified)**
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> Wess Roley has been identified as the suspect in the Idaho ambush that killed two firefighters and injured one.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefighters-shot-at-in-coeur-d-alene-id-2025-06-29/1020280/23 "2025-06-30T18:23:50Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> That’s bog-standard police technique and has been for 20+ years.

Ah. Shows how much attention I pay to the police…

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefighters-shot-at-in-coeur-d-alene-id-2025-06-29/1020280/24 "2025-06-30T18:26:39Z")

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I was in the biz of selling software to police departments at the time that GIS mapping software and also mobile phone ~~spy~~ “situational awareness” systems were the hot new thang in police tech.

I’m oblivious to whatever new magic they’ve gotten since. But I probably would not approve of it.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefighters-shot-at-in-coeur-d-alene-id-2025-06-29/1020280/25 "2025-06-30T22:06:53Z")

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Somebody who wants to cause as much destruction as possible, I guess.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefighters-shot-at-in-coeur-d-alene-id-2025-06-29/1020280/26 "2025-06-30T22:14:57Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> The shooter has been identified as Wess Roley, a 20 year old. No information about motive yet.

USA Today reported that he most recently lived in Phoenix and recently spent some time with his grandfather in Oklahoma. He has relatives about an hour away from the shooting site. He grandfather said that he loved firefighters so the whole thing didn’t make sense to him and speculated that he tried to become a firefighter and was rejected.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefighters-shot-at-in-coeur-d-alene-id-2025-06-29/1020280/27 "2025-06-30T22:21:39Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> speculated that he tried to become a firefighter and was rejected.

That’s one thing I speculated privately. But I would have put my money on his being a neo-nazi who targeted firefighters for… reasons.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefighters-shot-at-in-coeur-d-alene-id-2025-06-29/1020280/28 "2025-06-30T22:21:44Z")

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Gosh, I can’t imagine why he was rejected.

My dad was a FF for 36 years. Less than 1% of applicants end up joining the force.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefighters-shot-at-in-coeur-d-alene-id-2025-06-29/1020280/29 "2025-07-01T00:47:14Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I would have put my money on his being a neo-nazi who targeted firefighters for… reasons.

You may well be correct. So far the only news-adjacent cites online I’ve found for the proposition that this could be some white supremacist/Aryan Nation motivated attack are the [NY Post](https://nypost.com/2025/06/30/us-news/chilling-coincidence-of-idaho-shooting-sends-internet-sleuths-into-overdrive/) and the [Hindustan Times,](https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/aryan-nations-behind-coeur-d-alene-idaho-shooting-theories-emerge-amid-ongoing-manhunt-101751250931648.html) to wit:[On June 28, 2001:](https://www.seattlepi.com/seattlenews/article/buildings-torched-at-former-aryan-compound-1058503.php)

> Firefighters burned some of the remaining buildings on the former Aryan Nations compound during training exercises this week.
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> The 20-acre property is owned by the Carr Foundation, which offered the abandoned buildings to Northern Lakes Fire District officials for training, fire inspector Dean Marcus said.
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> The foundation bought the compound in April from Victoria and Jason Keenan, who won a $6.2 million judgment against the Aryan Nations and its founder, Richard Butler.

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