# Firefly fans - How would you feel about a reboot?

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**Created:** [January 9, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-fans-how-would-you-feel-about-a-reboot/776749 "2017-01-09T19:58:35Z")\
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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Book was also killed in the movie, so there’s no need to try to replace Ron Glass.

There is if you want Wash in it (that is, additional stories and hijinks, set within the original timeline)

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Tudyk’s character died in the movie.

Evidently I’ve blocked that from my consciousness. :smack:

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> [@bump](#):
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> I’d think you could probably have a new show, set in the same universe, and possibly have them occasionally cross paths with Serenity and/or the various characters from the earlier show, without making it “Firefly 2020” or something.

Maybe Firefly 2525? Gina Torres mashup!

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> [@scabpicker](#):
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> Yes, this. Please, a thousand times, this. I don’t want you making a mess of trying to make the existing characters fresh. Make your own characters, and make them have their own arcs.

Hopefully with a few more Asians.

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Another vote for different characters, same 'verse (maybe an occasional cameo, like the main characters of a new series runs into one of the _Firefly_ people once in a very great while)

I’m fine with _Firefly_ and _Serenity_ being what they are. They are far from the only series I really enjoyed that ended less than optimally.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-fans-how-would-you-feel-about-a-reboot/776749/26 "2017-01-09T23:16:18Z")

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To bad Larry Drake died - I might’ve liked a show about Sir Warwick Harrow, Space-Cattle Baron.

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I do like the idea of an animated series and think it could work well - given the in-series reason for there being a lot of Chinese speakers, it could be a co-production Fox (it was Fox, wasn’t it?) and a company that actually knows about how to make successful anime series. That could work well internationally. I’m not too comfortable with Book being voiced by someone else so soon after his death, but that character has an awful lot of backstory ripe to be mined, so it would depend on who they cast and what his family thought.

Fillion, for one, would be well up for it and already does a fair bit of voice acting.

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> [@bump](#):
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> I’d think you could probably have a new show, set in the same universe, and possibly have them occasionally cross paths with Serenity and/or the various characters from the earlier show, without making it “Firefly 2020” or something.

You cold use the crew from the other ship in _[Out of Gas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_Gas)_.

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> To bad Larry Drake died - I might’ve liked a show about Sir Warwick Harrow, Space-Cattle Baron.

Larry Drake died?! :eek:

I went and looked it up. 2016, even.

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Larry Drake died?! :eek:
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> I went and looked it up. 2016, even.

Given how crappy 2016 was, I suggest you check on _all_ your favourite celebrities.

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Book died in the movie too, so even if Ron Glass were still with us…

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Ah crap. I hadn’t heard about Ron Glass. Damn you universe!

Another another vote for same 'verse, new characters and stories.

I never watch the animated versions of these types of shows and movies, so I’ll vote against that.

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Eh, I’m with **CarnalK** , I think. I really enjoyed the show, but the setting was nothing _that_ special from my POV. If anything the “cowboys in space” theme occasionally slipped too far into the hokey when they tried to push it. For me it was more the cast and particular storylines - it would be trying to catch lightning in the bottle a second time and _probably_ wouldn’t work quite as well.

I’d say let its handsome corpse rot in peace.

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I think once Joss Whedon realized _Firefly_ was done as a series, he used up some of the ideas he had for the series in _Serenity_ and various comic books. So you couldn’t just go back and start the series up again from Episode 15 or a rebooted Episode 1.

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Let me ask you guys a question: given the choice between a new \*Firefly \*series with new writers and a new cast, and a Joss Whedon-penned show about St. Louis sanitation workers starring Nathan Fillion and Adam Baldwin, which would you go with?

It wasn’t the setting that made _Firefly_, it was the writing and acting. Besides, if I want a space western set in a semi-distopian future I’ve got _Killjoys_, which, while no _Firefly_, is much better than it has any right to be. \*Firefly \*was lightning in a bottle. It won’t happen again.

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I vote “No” - _Dark Matter_ and _Killjoys_ satisfy all my cheesy “We’re on a spaceboat!” cravings without affecting my happy memories of _Firefly_ itself.

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Let me ask you guys a question: given the choice between a new \*Firefly \*series with new writers and a new cast, and a Joss Whedon-penned show about St. Louis sanitation workers starring Nathan Fillion and Adam Baldwin, which would you go with?
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> It wasn’t the setting that made _Firefly_, it was the writing and acting. Besides, if I want a space western set in a semi-distopian future I’ve got _Killjoys_, which, while no _Firefly_, is much better than it has any right to be. \*Firefly \*was lightning in a bottle. It won’t happen again.

It was different things to different people. Certainly the writing and acting was great. The family-adversity of the interplay of characters was funny, touching, and engaging, but for me, the space-cowboy blend was done in a way that, for me, worked exceptionally well - I liked the texture of the setting and situation a lot too. I want some more of that.

It sounds like I need to check out Killjoys.

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> It sounds like I need to check out Killjoys.

Depends - is _Strontium Dog_ your favourite \*2000AD \*series? 🙂

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I’m not a reader of comics, so I couldn’t say.

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> I’m not a reader of comics, so I couldn’t say.

Killjoys are bounty hunters, is what I’m saying. I enjoy it for what it is, but it is cheesy. it’s nice that the team lead is female, and also that there’s a non-romantic friendship as a central dynamic (similar to the Mal/Zoe dynamic), and there are enough interesting hints dropped that the arc bits are not a total snooze. Not sure if I prefer it or\* Dark Matter\*, although I’m leaning towards the latter.

as an aside, though - how could you grow up in the UK, be geeky and of a certain age, and not be at least passingly familiar with _200AD_? Next you’ll tell me you’ve never read _The Beano_ 🙂

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