# Firefly pilot **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 15, 2002, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790 "2002-11-15T00:54:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/1 "2002-11-15T00:54:22Z")
Wow. It’s very good. Don’t miss it. Speculation question: Reynolds sometimes refers to Serenity as boat, sometimes as ship. Perhaps space ships, like submarines continue to be called boats becasue the forst were less than 100’ ? ---
**Author:** ![jessicala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb9ed0/32.png) [@jessicala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jessicala)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/2 "2002-11-15T01:45:25Z")
Cool, when/how did you get to see it? Do you know the date it’s going to be broadcast? All I’ve heard has been “in December.” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/3 "2002-11-15T01:58:00Z")
I, er, found it lying in the street. These guys say 20 December. [http://www.fox.com/firefly/episodes.htm](http://www.fox.com/firefly/episodes.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/4 "2002-11-15T02:13:31Z")
It’s certainly not on any file sharing services, that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/5 "2002-11-15T02:24:10Z")
While I’ve got you here, do the Reviers remind you of Apaches or Commancheros in 60’s Westerns? ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/6 "2002-11-15T03:17:22Z")
Er… I’ll say in a little bit. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/7 "2002-11-15T05:15:31Z")
I was in the U.S. Navy for four years, **carnivorousplant** , and I never heard of the 100’ standard you refer to for the boat/ship boundary. We used to say you can put a boat on a ship, but not vice-versa. There’s no formal distinction that I know of. As for _Firefly,_ I reckon it just sounds more folksy, and thus more Western, to say “boat” instead of “ship.” ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/8 "2002-11-15T14:51:31Z")
> [@](#): > > We used to say you can put a boat on a ship, but not vice-versa. There’s no formal distinction that I know of. Well you can, but it tends to end in court martial. Subs are often referred to as boats, rather then ships. ---
**Author:** ![bicyclops](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d6d6ee/32.png) [@bicyclops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bicyclops)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/9 "2002-11-15T21:18:14Z")
Please watch Firefly tonight! Tell your friends (especially if they Nielsen boxes!) Apparently Fox will cease production on this show if tonight’s episode doesn’t get high enough ratings. see also: [http://www.fireflysupport.com/](http://www.fireflysupport.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/10 "2002-11-15T21:44:28Z")
I saw it about a month ago as well. It was better than their aired pilot. It is on file-sharing services. I won’t say where, but let’s just say you should mesh it out a bit. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/11 "2002-11-15T22:45:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bicyclops \* > \*\*Please watch Firefly tonight! \*\* If you don’t participate in the ratings, it doesn’t matter. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/12 "2002-11-15T22:57:50Z")
Thanks for the link, **Bicyclops** so, are you one-eyed wearing a monocle?, regular two-eyed? or one-eyed who likes the ladies and the fellas? just wasting time, no offense meant. I have no clue, you see… God, I love saying that ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/13 "2002-11-15T22:58:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\* > If you don’t participate in the ratings, it doesn’t matter. > ☹ \*\* No kidding. A lot of shows take a beating in the ratings because they don’t ask enough people what they’re watching. _I_ would gladly do the Neilson thing, but no, they don’t even ask me :wally ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2002, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/14 "2002-11-16T01:21:36Z")
I’m watching the show right now Damn! Looks like Jayne is the traitor. I wonder if their will be some sort of plot twist? this is such a good series… ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2002, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/15 "2002-11-16T01:55:00Z")
Does anyone know what order they are supposed to be seen in? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2002, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/16 "2002-11-16T01:59:28Z")
i’ve been searching the links for that. hard to make heads of tails of that Q ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2002, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/17 "2002-11-16T03:01:54Z")
I made my dad and my grandfather sit down and watch it tonight. They’re huge Star Trek fans. Some of their comments: “they wouldn’t have handcuffs 500 years from now.” “Well…it’s a tad…gory.” “This sure isn’t Enterprise.” “Is this a futuristic medical drama?” “So the Alliance is like the Federation, right?” “I’m not understanding this at all. This isn’t like Star Trek.” I don’t think I’ve convinced them. Bah, who cares. I’m still watching. ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2002, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/18 "2002-11-16T04:58:54Z")
Yeah great episode tonight. I usually miss it but i caught it this week and I’m glad I did. Loved the ending too. Someone going to start a thread for it? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bicyclops](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d6d6ee/32.png) [@bicyclops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bicyclops)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2002, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/19 "2002-11-16T15:13:27Z")
carnivorousplant: > [@](#): > > If you don’t participate in the ratings, it doesn’t matter. That’s why the suggestion to pester your friends and hopefully some of them will have Nielsen boxes. (One of mine did!) Even if you’re not on Nielsen, you can show your support by emailing Fox or participating in the [fireflysupport.com](http://fireflysupport.com) efforts. Might help. The overnight ratings should be up soon. Hope it’s good news. > [@](#): > > Does anyone know what order they are supposed to be seen in? Aint It Cool News has the original order here (spoilery if you haven’t seen Ariel yet): > **[Herc Gives The Last FIREFLY of Sweeps Four Stars!!](http://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/13830)** > > Firefly 1.10 FAQ What’s it called? “Ariel.” Who’s responsible? Teleplay is credited to Jose Molina (“Dark Angel”). Isn’t this just the eighth episode to air? What’s this “1.10” business? Fox is running these early, “stand-alone” episodes... ---
**Author:** ![bicyclops](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d6d6ee/32.png) [@bicyclops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bicyclops)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2002, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790/20 "2002-11-16T15:31:10Z")
NoClueBoy: > [@](#): > > Thanks for the link, Bicyclops > > so, are you one-eyed wearing a monocle?, regular two-eyed? or one-eyed who likes the ladies and the fellas? just wasting time, no offense meant. I have no clue, you see… God, I love saying that One nearsighted eye and one farsighted eye. Makes depth perception and and questions such as “Are these lined up?” or “Is this straight?” a little tricky. And speaking of “Is this straight?”, I like the ladies. I knew this name would be misinterpreted that way. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-pilot/136790.md?page=2)