# Firefly reboot on Disney+ rumored

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**Created:** [December 15, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142 "2020-12-15T23:42:21Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/41 "2020-12-17T20:01:44Z")

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I’m not sure I’d want to see something new in the _Firefly_ 'verse. I think it worked as long as one didn’t need to look at it too closely - as long as the plots relied on it only in a general sort of way, while the magic happened between the characters.

But if you put a new show in another place or time or situation in that universe, I just have a feeling that it might start showing some holes and rents.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/42 "2020-12-17T20:20:06Z")

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I don’t think Zoe and Wash had a child. Unless she was pregnant at the time of Serenity? I guess that’d work, but I don’t think it was ever hinted at.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/43 "2020-12-17T20:45:55Z")

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In Heart of Gold, they talk about it, (not her actually being pregnant, but about the possibility of having children) and in the movie, it is a bit hinted at, but subtly.

In the following comics, she actually gives birth.

I don’t know if the comics would be considered cannon.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/44 "2020-12-18T01:22:43Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I don’t know if the comics would be considered cannon.

Stolen from Facebook: “cannon” protects forts. “Canon” protects copyright.

But they both destroy ships.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/45 "2020-12-18T07:41:21Z")

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I hate to admit it, but I’ve never actually sat down and watched Firefly. Is it the type of show that Disney+ would want to do? Is the original on Disney+?

I ask because I had thought Firefly was a bit more adult (not in a sexual way), and I know that Disney+ refused the Lizzie McGuire sequel series because they thought the creators’ ideas were more for adults than kids. They thus tried to get it on Hulu instead.

So, to me, I would have expected any Disney-backed sequel/reboot to Firefly to be put on Hulu, not Disney+.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/46 "2020-12-18T14:06:16Z")

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The original isn’t on Disney+; it’s not a Disney property.

I have no idea about Lizzie McGuire, but Disney+ has more “adult” oriented programming. _The Mandalorian_, for one. Also, the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe. The upcoming _WandaVision_ definitely doesn’t look like a “kids” show.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/47 "2020-12-18T14:07:23Z")

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The article claims that the plan is to PG it down a bit. Honestly, the limited “sex” in the original show (it was a network show originally) was not particularly necessary to anything.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/48 "2020-12-18T14:32:36Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> The original isn’t on Disney+; it’s not a Disney property.

It wasn’t made by Disney, but they own it now.

> **[Disney Officially Owns 21st Century Fox](https://www.npr.org/2019/03/20/705009029/disney-officially-owns-21st-century-fox)**
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> The $71 billion deal strengthens Disney's portfolio and gives it even more leverage to compete against other streaming powerhouses.

> **[Firefly Is Part of Disney/Fox Deal, Is a Revival Possible?](https://movieweb.com/firefly-tv-show-reboot-disney-fox-merger/)**
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> Disney will own the franchise right's to Joss Whedon's Firefly, so does that mean we can expect a reboot?

I would think that the original feel of Firefly to be a bit grittier and darker than Disney usually likes. I unfortunately watched “The Lone Ranger”, and I remember at one point saying, “Oh, so that’s what Disney thinks a brothel looks like.”

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/49 "2020-12-18T14:49:52Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I would think that the original feel of Firefly to be a bit grittier and darker than Disney usually likes. I unfortunately watched “The Lone Ranger”, and I remember at one point saying, “Oh, so that’s what Disney thinks a brothel looks like.”

A bit, probably, but remember, it was prime time network TV show. It wasn’t _that_ gritty. A Disney+ reboot would presumably, as @Fiveyearlurker notes, “PG it down a bit”, but, I don’t think the original was _that_ much darker and grittier than _The Mandalorian_.

That’s actually one of my main concerns with a reboot on Disney+. For a modern audience, I suspect a mildly gritty space opera Western is going to feel like an inferior, derivative knock-off of _The Mandalorian_.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/50 "2020-12-18T15:29:53Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I ask because I had thought Firefly was a bit more adult (not in a sexual way)…

One of the nine main characters is a prostitute, the pilot episode included the prostitute giving herself a sponge bath, a discreet sex scene between a married couple, a naked woman in a crate, and a scene that was sexier than any of those. One of the episodes revolves around a brothel, and the ship’s engineer first came aboard to have sex in the engine room with the ship’s previous engineer (and fixed the engine while she was at it). A recurring antagonist used seduction as one of her weapons, resulting in her being naked (and articulate) in one episode, and the Captain stranded naked on a planet in another. So, yes, there was certainly some sexual content.

There was also non-sexual adult content, mostly revolving around the fact that the main characters were sometimes-violent criminals.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/51 "2020-12-18T15:45:55Z")

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I watched it with my ten year old, and was only mildly uncomfortable about the sex aspects. Inara was trained to be charming and men paid her to go out on dates. Saffron was trained to make men uncomfortable that she might like them to trick them.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/52 "2020-12-18T16:16:46Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> There was also non-sexual adult content, mostly revolving around the fact that the main characters were sometimes-violent criminals.

Yeah, there were a couple of just outright murders that were committed by the crew. Justified, maybe by the code of Mal “If someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back”, but not by any legal code.

And this was in the commission of, or to cover up, criminal actions.

They were _not_ the good guys.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/53 "2020-12-18T19:24:54Z")

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This is a great idea, along the lines of rebooting _Fawlty Towers_ starring Brad Garrett and Miley Cyrus.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/54 "2020-12-18T21:09:29Z")

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I choose to be optimistic, and will be unpleasantly surprised if wrong!

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/55 "2020-12-18T21:22:14Z")

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It probably won’t happen, but if it does who knows what it will be like. It might be awful, it might be great. No need to judge the thing before you see it.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/56 "2020-12-18T21:29:09Z")

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I’m a big fan of the original series, and if this reboot actually happens, I imagine that I will at least give it a shot.

That said, I know that the people involved in the original saw it as a labor of love, and I think it showed. The fewer of those original people (both the cast and the production team) who are involved in any reboot, the more skeptical I’m going to be that it’ll be able to be true to the spirit of the original.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/57 "2020-12-18T23:16:25Z")

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I feel like this is definitely happening. Disney+ is kind of desperate for IP to maintain their growing D+ subscription numbers. They need something outside of the Marvel/Star Wars ecosystem.

The Mandalorian is a hit, but otherwise nothing else has really gained traction. They have a number of Marvel and Star Wars scripted series in the works, stalled because of COVID, but still inbound. Yet those properties have a somewhat narrow audience of fanboys already likely subscribed. They need to grow their base and something like a Firefly reboot will draw new people in.

That said, it’s going to be really, really hard to capture the magic without Whedon and Fillion and the rest, but in the past they all expressed a lot of interest. The movie was successful, if not a outright smash and they killed off a couple key characters. Hopefully they choose to get on board. Even if they do, it’s been a long time. Can they slip back into the groove?

If it’s new writers and new cast, a Firefly reboot in name only, that’ll be a tough sell. But I wouldn’t be against Disney trying anyways.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/58 "2020-12-19T05:18:34Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> …The fewer of those original people (both the cast and the production team) who are involved in any reboot, the more skeptical I’m going to be that it’ll be able to be true to the spirit of the original.

Not a bad rule of thumb.

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I have no interest in this unless Joss Whedon is attached to it but he’s been canceled (he’s dropped out from The Nevers, which I had been looking forward to) and it seems everyone who worked with him on that movie has something else to say about what a terrible human being he is with Gal Godot being the latest to make vague accusations against him.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-reboot-on-disney-rumored/928142/60 "2025-05-22T12:52:33Z")

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My wife heard/read something about this coming in fall 25, but Google turns up little info. She heard Fillon and Summer were the only returnees as sole survivors post Serenity.

Anyone hear anything about this?

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