# Firefly, Solaris and Star Wars AotC **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 9, 2004, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-solaris-and-star-wars-aotc/228242 "2004-02-09T07:22:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-solaris-and-star-wars-aotc/228242/81 "2004-02-14T02:07:44Z")
> [@Sweetums](#): > > Evil Captor I salute you! It takes stones to admit that you like John Norman, here in public, where everyone can see. I don’t think my comment indicated that I liked John Norman. (For the record, I DO like John Norman, in fact, I think he’s one of the most gifted fantasy writers ever, though I admit he has his flaws.) I was just saying I thought the relationship could be a little darker than the Alphonse Mucha-tinted romance they had, considering Anakin’s potential for evil and all. > [@](#): > > This would also explain how the whole romance between Amadala and Little Wooden Boy didn’t turn you off. So, you’re arguing that the romance was too Gorean, not that it was too saccharine? > [@](#): > > As for Amadala, we see no reason why somene who was supposed to have strength of character and compassion would fall for this guy. Sorry, maybe on Gor self respect is just a show that a woman puts up to hide the fact that she, like all woman, secretly wants to be tied up and dominated, but most of the woman I know and respect would disagree. > > ``` > Wait, the woman on Firefly were self confident, and by no means dishrags, perhaps that's why you don't like it. > > ``` > > Still, John Norman, Hentai, I respect your right to enjoy whatever floats it. You must admit however, not exactly what I would call the best examples of the genre. I don’t think the Norman stuff or the hentai are particularly central to AotC, Firefly or Solaris, but maybe I’ll start a thread or two on those topics and see if anyone wants to talk about them. ---
**Author:** ![Wumpus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8c91f0/32.png) [@Wumpus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wumpus)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2004, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-solaris-and-star-wars-aotc/228242/82 "2004-02-16T02:56:04Z")
I think this constitutes a new Law of the Internet: Once a thread ostensibly about science fiction turns into a favorable appraisal of the Gor books, it is over. I hereby dub this the Evil Captor Law! ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2004, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-solaris-and-star-wars-aotc/228242/83 "2004-02-16T03:46:40Z")
> [@Wumpus](#): > > I think this constitutes a new Law of the Internet: Once a thread ostensibly about science fiction turns into a favorable appraisal of the Gor books, it is over. > > I hereby dub this the Evil Captor Law! This happens a lot? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-solaris-and-star-wars-aotc/228242/84 "2004-02-16T04:39:10Z")
Haven’t seen “Solaris” so I can’t comment on that. But I’m in the middle of seeing “Firefly” for the first time, so I can comment on that. And I’ve seen AotC several times. No _way_ is AotC is better. AotC is okay, if you don’t mind the weak plot and the irritating Annakin guy. The special effects are great, and I always love the music. I’m a big Star Wars geek and I’m pretty forgiving. I bought the DVD, just out of a feeling of loyalty. But “Firefly” is far more interesting. I love the characters. The plots are okay, but it’s the characters that are sucking me in. I love 'em all, but right now I think that Shepherd Book (Ron Glass) and Kaylee are my favorites. My favorites may change at any time, though, which to me is a sign of well-written characters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/firefly-solaris-and-star-wars-aotc/228242.md?page=4)