# First Century Idioms? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 19, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-century-idioms/763347 "2016-08-19T21:53:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rstrats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@rstrats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rstrats)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-century-idioms/763347/1 "2016-08-19T21:53:07Z")
Does anyone know of examples from the first century or before which forecast a daytime or a night time to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred? ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-century-idioms/763347/2 "2016-08-19T21:54:06Z")
Huh? ---
**Author:** ![rstrats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@rstrats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rstrats)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-century-idioms/763347/3 "2016-08-19T23:21:48Z")
buddha\_david, re: “Huh?” Could you elaborate on your comment? I don’t understand what you are asking. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-century-idioms/763347/4 "2016-08-19T23:50:31Z")
> [@rstrats](#): > > Could you elaborate on your comment? I don’t understand what you are asking. What **buddha\_david** meant was just that: he didn’t understand what you are asking. One problem is that the title of your message refers to “Idioms”, but your message doesn’t talk about idioms at all. If it was about “First Century Idioms”, it would be expected that you might talk about which language the idioms belonged to, since idioms are always part of a particular language. But your question really seems to be about prophecies. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-century-idioms/763347/5 "2016-08-20T00:41:07Z")
> [@Giles](#): > > What **buddha\_david** meant was just that: he didn’t understand what you are asking. > > One problem is that the title of your message refers to “Idioms”, but your message doesn’t talk about idioms at all. If it was about “First Century Idioms”, it would be expected that you might talk about which language the idioms belonged to, since idioms are always part of a particular language. But your question really seems to be about prophecies. The other problem is that the question about prophesies is not understandable. What it is about daytime and nighttime that you are getting at? ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-century-idioms/763347/6 "2016-08-20T00:41:08Z")
> [@rstrats](#): > > Does anyone know of examples from the first century or before which forecast a daytime or a night time to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred? > [@buddha\_david](#): > > Huh? > [@rstrats](#): > > buddha\_david, > re: “Huh?” > Could you elaborate on your comment? I don’t understand what you are asking. Let me elaborate on **buddha david’s** comment: What in blue blazes are you talking about? I find it totally unitelligible. Are you a non-English speaker using an online translator? Are you under the influence of a mind-altering drug? It makes no sense at all. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-century-idioms/763347/7 "2016-08-20T00:44:04Z")
It’s deja vu [all over again.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=666754) > [@rstrsts from 2012](#): > > Does anyone have documentation from the first century or before that shows that the phrase “three days and three nights” has been used where it absolutely doesn’t refer to at least parts of three nighttime periods and at least parts of three daytime periods? [And again.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=782589) ---
**Author:** ![TipTapTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@TipTapTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TipTapTwo)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-century-idioms/763347/8 "2016-08-20T01:12:48Z")
Are you counting First Century to be 1-100AD after Jesus’ death? If so, everything in the Hebrew Bible came before Him, and should fit your criteria. Here is a list of Ancient Hebrew idioms from their holy book [http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/language\_idioms.html](http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/language_idioms.html) Ps 90.12 – _Number days_ – means: use time wisely You can use your night time, day time, or any time wisely. Not just the day that the idiom suggests. Did you want an idiom that has day/night in it, that can never be correctly used with its own day/night wording? Is 14.12 – _Son of the morning_ – means: morning star Since [morning star](https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+morning+star&btnG=Search&hl=en&gbv=1) means "a bright planet, especially Venus, when visible in the east before sunrise.” To me that says that the “morning” erases the view of the “morning star.” Thus, a morning star can only be seen at night, before sunrise, and the “Son of morning” can never be seen during the actual morning after the sunrise. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-century-idioms/763347/9 "2016-08-20T05:50:33Z")
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