# First father, now son. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 27, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648 "2007-06-27T15:44:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/1 "2007-06-27T15:44:23Z")
[My SO’s brother suffered a fatal heart attack four months ago](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=409257), now his mixed-up, idiot son committed suicide in jail. We’re not as broken up about this. The boy was a product of teenage sex, the victim of a pedophile, taken to a hooker–apparently in a misguided attempt to “straighten him out”–shortly after the pedophile incident. He subsequently developed a filty mouth and would use it every chance he got, and even tried fighting with his aunt. He was allowed to do pot with his dad and & stepmom. After graduating high school, he moved out of their place and in with his bio mom, who caught him stealing money, a few hundred $ all told. She had him arrested and thrown in jail. Now he’s gone. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/2 "2007-06-27T15:50:15Z")
What a sad end to a sad life. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/3 "2007-06-27T16:04:13Z")
So…I take it you’re in charge of the eulogy? ---
**Author:** ![A.R.Cane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@A.R.Cane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A.R.Cane)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/4 "2007-06-27T16:06:28Z")
Adolescence is the most difficult time in most people’s lives. With that and the abuse, then the loss of his father, the kid must have been in deep turmoil. I’m sorry for your loss and sad to ponder what this young man must have suffered through. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/5 "2007-06-27T16:35:53Z")
> [@](#): > > from OP _…taken to a hooker–apparently in a misguided attempt to “straighten him out”—_ It is too bad someone didn’t understand the difference between a hooker and a psychiatrist? I wish you and your SO the best. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/6 "2007-06-27T16:44:05Z")
> [@](#): > > It is too bad someone didn’t understand the difference between a hooker and a psychiatrist? Which is, of course, that no one ever fantasizes that his psychiatrist will tell him he’s such a good conversationalist he won’t be charged for his sessions. ---
**Author:** ![lavenderviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lavenderviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lavenderviolet)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/7 "2007-06-27T16:53:49Z")
[QUOTE=Morgenstern] It is too bad someone didn’t understand the difference between a hooker and a psychiatrist? [/QUOTE] Yeah, whoever came up with that idea sounds like the real idiot here. Poor kid never really had a chance. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/8 "2007-06-27T17:03:21Z")
> [@A.R. Cane](#): > > I’m sorry for your loss Thanks but that’s not really necessary in this case. 🙂 [QUOTE=lavenderviolet] Yeah, whoever came up with that idea sounds like the real idiot here. [/QUOTE] That would have been his somewhat homophobic father. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/9 "2007-06-27T17:20:29Z")
And you’re happy he’s dead because he swore and stole a few bucks? Tough crowd at the Skywatcher place. I hope you two don’t have children. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/10 "2007-06-27T17:36:14Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] And you’re happy he’s dead because he swore and stole a few bucks? Tough crowd at the Skywatcher place. I hope you two don’t have children. [/QUOTE] When did he say he’s happy? He said he’s “not as broken up”, but that’s a pretty far cry from “happy”. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/11 "2007-06-27T17:47:10Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] And you’re happy he’s dead because he swore and stole a few bucks? Tough crowd at the Skywatcher place. I hope you two don’t have children. [/QUOTE] Cool yer jets, **Kal**. We, well my SO more than me, were devestated by the death of Billy Ray (the father). Neither of us is _happy_ that Mike (the 21-or-so son) is no longer with us but his passing doesn’t affect us as much, as **fachverwirrt** noted. We had just spent Thanksgiving with Billy Ray, his wife, and their youngest and had made plans to spend each Christmas with them but we hadn’t seen Mike in about three years. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/12 "2007-06-27T17:50:19Z")
[QUOTE=fachverwirrt] When did he say he’s happy? He said he’s “not as broken up”, but that’s a pretty far cry from “happy”. [/QUOTE] When someone says “no need for condolences” and posts a smiley face, I took that as a “happy.” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/13 "2007-06-27T17:56:49Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] When someone says “no need for condolences” and posts a smiley face, I took that as a “happy.” [/QUOTE] That’s mainly me coping with all the crap that’s been happening in our lives lately. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/14 "2007-06-27T17:58:51Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] And you’re happy he’s dead because he swore and stole a few bucks? Tough crowd at the Skywatcher place. I hope you two don’t have children. [/QUOTE] I wish I knew you in RL. I bet your a hoot to hang out with. Nothing gets by you and you have the guts to speak your mind. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![A.R.Cane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@A.R.Cane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A.R.Cane)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/15 "2007-06-27T18:02:11Z")
[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher] That’s mainly me coping with all the crap that’s been happening in our lives lately. [/QUOTE] That explains a lot, I was beginning to wonder if I should apologize for offering condolences. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/16 "2007-06-27T18:25:15Z")
[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher] That’s mainly me coping with all the crap that’s been happening in our lives lately. [/QUOTE] I’m glad you said that. It sounded like you thought it was his fault he was raped and abused all his life. Much of it at the hand of the father you’re mourning. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/17 "2007-06-27T18:30:57Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] It sounded like you thought it was his fault he was raped and abused all his life. [/QUOTE] Sorry 'bout that. Hanging oneself is a terrible way to go but at least he’s no longer in pain of any sort. > [@](#): > > Much of it at the hand of the father you’re mourning. Let him be an example of why most children shouldn’t try to raise children. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/18 "2007-06-27T23:21:30Z")
Okay, this situation is getting weird. We heard last night that he had been arrested and was facing 2-3 years in jail. Now the story is he hanged himself in the woods behind his bio-mom’s house. I know bio-mom never liked him being in contact with the other side of the family; I’m starting to wonder if this could be her sick way of keeping him to herself. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-father-now-son/409648/19 "2007-06-27T23:29:24Z")
What a waste.