# First Measles death in Texas - Feb, 2025, and now in other parts of the US

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**Created:** [February 26, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834 "2025-02-26T16:56:18Z")\
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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> “The (measles) advisory details a few known exposure locations between April 7 and April 15, all in Marion. They include Don Sol Restaurant, Legacy Fitness, Walmart, Kroger, Wonder Wash Laundry, Easy Coin Laundry and Small Star Laundry,… "

Either the patient was exceptionally clean, or worked emptying coins from coin-op machines.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
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Or desperately searching for that lost sock…

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The number of measles cases in Kansas is now up to 48. Possible exposure at the Wichita airport, the state’s largest.

[https://www.ksnt.com/capitol-bureau/kansas-gov-calls-measles-outbreak-serious-urges-parents-to-vaccinate-children/](https://www.ksnt.com/capitol-bureau/kansas-gov-calls-measles-outbreak-serious-urges-parents-to-vaccinate-children/)

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> **[A huge outbreak has made Ontario the measles centre of the western hemisphere](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/06/measles-outbreak-ontario-canada?CMP)**
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> Three-quarters of cases are in unvaccinated children, and this week saw the first fatality: a premature baby

Is looks like Ontario is having a measles outbreak that makes Texas’ look small

“Since October, the province has reported a staggering 2,009 cases of measles associated with the current outbreak – more than all of those in the United States combined in 2025, and making Ontario the measles centre of the western hemisphere.”

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**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/305 "2025-06-06T18:14:10Z")

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I’m going to go.out on a limb and suggest the actual cases to reported cases ratio is very different in Texas and Ontario.

Measles (or COVID) don’t exist if you (government really) pretend hard enough that they don’t. No matter how many people are dying.

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The state of Texas seems to want good numbers, though, for itself if not for the sake of the nation at large.

While it may still play a part, I would rather suspect the difference in healthcare systems might play a larger role in whether or not people seek professional care, even if both outbreaks involved Mennonite communities. In Texas, they already largely eschew the public health system, which is the primary way cases get reported. Officials can’t get accurate case counts if the afflicted actively avoid them. I would hazard a guess the antipathy towards hospitals and the public health system is less true in Canada.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
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> [@bobot](#):
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> …making Ontario the measles centre of the western hemisphere."

Catchy. But the chamber of commerce types probably won’t want to use “The Measles Centre of the Western Hemisphere” as a provincial slogan instead of “Yours To Discover”.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/308 "2025-06-07T03:00:01Z")

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“Yours to discover (the consequences)”?

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/309 "2025-06-23T04:58:21Z")

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A fairly good article of what’s happening in Texas–if anyone has a gift link:

> **[‘I Feel Like I’ve Been Lied To’: When a Measles Outbreak Hits Home](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/22/us/i-feel-like-ive-been-lied-to-when-a-measles-outbreak-hits-home.html)**
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> From a lone clinic in Texas to an entire school district in North Dakota, the virus is upending daily life and revealing a deeper crisis of belief.

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> if anyone has a gift link:

Gift link:

> **[‘I Feel Like I’ve Been Lied To’: When a Measles Outbreak Hits Home](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/22/us/i-feel-like-ive-been-lied-to-when-a-measles-outbreak-hits-home.html?unlocked_article_code=1.RE8.rAlG.WcELYMTFhCi2&smid=url-share)**
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> From a lone clinic in Texas to an entire school district in North Dakota, the virus is upending daily life and revealing a deeper crisis of belief.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/311 "2025-06-23T05:54:46Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> A fairly good article of what’s happening in Texas

What an infuriating situation. Why those two haven’t had their licenses revoked is beyond me.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/312 "2025-06-23T10:29:03Z")

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Maybe I’m mistaken, of course, but a quite simple solution seems to have been overlooked.

Make it clear there is not enough vaccine for everyone who wants it. Then announce areas with low uptake for vaccines will be last to receive supply, should it hold out.

And, just like that, EVERYONE is loudly screaming about how they are being excluded.

Demand would sky rocket I think. Just a thought.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/313 "2025-06-23T15:30:04Z")

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Or just stop it with religious exemptions. We don’t offer religious exemptions for individual income tax or traffic laws or building codes: why do so for vaccines?

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/314 "2025-06-23T17:11:51Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Or just stop it with religious exemptions. We don’t offer religious exemptions for individual income tax or traffic laws or building codes:

Don’t give them ideas. It’s bad enough in regards to medicine, pharmacists, and insurance.

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**U.S. measles cases reach 33-year record high as outbreaks spread**

Johns Hopkins University data reflects the public health reversal in defeating the vaccine-preventable disease since measles was officially eliminated from the U.S. in 2000.

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/07/07/measles-cases-hit-record/?utm\_source=newsshowcase&utm\_medium=gnews&utm\_campaign=CDAqDwgAKgcICjCO1JQKMLfRdDCSiYgE&utm\_content=rundown&gaa\_at=g&gaa\_n=ASWzDAgGIXgaVQpxOkbCNANqu8XloNwZ91WfhwITBDxJO\_oKPkC0yIWpUa1NCMpvrFbKZ9ivJ48wNv5\_AedpabiMsM7wDQHTfAksvHo%3D&gaa\_ts=686c304d&gaa\_sig=Vp2mdpjXTm2Wv7nQx0qpVmdzIwrrazDPIJkgHBzdqcLKGDhEC7gsy-7jyGE\_iIAFCrWPp1z6auZ0ZqwgRKk\_ZA%3D%3D](https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/07/07/measles-cases-hit-record/?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqDwgAKgcICjCO1JQKMLfRdDCSiYgE&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=g&gaa_n=ASWzDAgGIXgaVQpxOkbCNANqu8XloNwZ91WfhwITBDxJO_oKPkC0yIWpUa1NCMpvrFbKZ9ivJ48wNv5_AedpabiMsM7wDQHTfAksvHo%3D&gaa_ts=686c304d&gaa_sig=Vp2mdpjXTm2Wv7nQx0qpVmdzIwrrazDPIJkgHBzdqcLKGDhEC7gsy-7jyGE_iIAFCrWPp1z6auZ0ZqwgRKk_ZA%3D%3D)

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So much Winning.

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Even the Amish have to have their own homes inspected before they can move in.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
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But…but…I got all them childhood diseases as a child and didn’t die. The _Brady Bunch_ kids had lots of fun getting measles. And what about the antifreeze, aluminum, fetal remnants and used auto parts in the vaccines?

Hey, [when your number’s up, it’s up](https://www.newsweek.com/texas-dad-peter-hildebrand-daisy-measles-outbreak-2060011). Gotta stay pure.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/319 "2025-08-18T17:19:39Z")

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Some truly amazing news! I had expected because of the massive anti-vax sentiment among MAGA, Texas, Robert Kennedy, etc that cases would explode:

> Health officials have not confirmed a new case in the affected counties in more than 42 days, passing the threshold used to declare measles outbreaks over. The last outbreak-related case in Texas was on July 1, according to state data.

> **[Texas declares measles outbreak over](https://apnews.com/article/measles-vaccine-outbreak-texas-mmr-0744a165cfb354022092a1f158c698b0)**
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> Health officials in Texas have declared the state's measles outbreak over. The virus sickened 762 people since late January.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/320 "2025-08-18T17:31:49Z")

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Gather no data and no cases will ye find.

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