# First Measles death in Texas - Feb, 2025, and now in other parts of the US

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**Created:** [February 26, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834 "2025-02-26T16:56:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2026, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/361 "2026-02-07T16:04:48Z")

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Well, there’s trust in CDC and trust in the doc.

The least bad answer is something close to

The CDC has been taken over by know-nothing criminals actively trying to kill Americans. Once you understand that, you’ll recognize they are now lying and I’m telling what has been the truth for the last 50 years. Which is also what CDC also said before they were invaded and destroyed from within.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2026, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/362 "2026-02-07T16:14:53Z")

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The CDC and other federal health agencies have been heavily corrupted.

Look instead to the American Academy of Pediatrics, Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia and the Infectious Diseases Society of America for reliable, trustworthy information on childhood infectious diseases and vaccines.

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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/363 "2026-02-09T23:56:28Z")

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In case you wonder if there is cause for alarm.

[Measles is raging worldwide: are you at risk?](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-00367-5)

[![](https://media.nature.com/lw767/magazine-assets/d41586-026-00367-5/d41586-026-00367-5_52028710.png?as=webp) ](https://media.nature.com/lw767/magazine-assets/d41586-026-00367-5/d41586-026-00367-5_52028710.png?as=webp)

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/364 "2026-02-10T00:37:25Z")

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I would like to know who the people are who say that the U.S. needs to stop being declared measles-free. One would think that literally thousands of cases would clinch the decision for them.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/365 "2026-02-10T01:13:36Z")

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I’m unable to make sense of your post as either serious or sarcasm.

The ideologues want to retain the measles-free designation while also denying there’s anything to see as soon thousands, then millions will be infected.

Reality has other ideas.

It’s unclear to me what path you’re trying to take through this. But sometimes I’m really obtuse.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/366 "2026-02-10T01:58:05Z")

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“Herd immunity” is so woke. Glad to see “Free-range herd immunity” in action.

BTW, I’m being sarcastic about being glad, but not being sarcastic about the terms. Dumbshits.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/367 "2026-02-10T02:10:07Z")

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I think it’s just a matter of time. The US gets reviewed in a couple of months, and we’ll lose the “measles free” designation when that happens.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/368 "2026-02-10T04:04:04Z")

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That’s OK. But I keep hearing that the U.S. had been, AFAIK, measles-free or nearly so since about 2000, and that official status has yet to be revoked.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/369 "2026-07-24T16:28:47Z")

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> The Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) informs that the review of the measles elimination status in the United States and Mexico **will take place in November 2026** , during the Commission’s regular annual meeting of the Regional Verification Commission for the Elimination of Measles, Rubella, and Congenital Rubella Syndrome (RVC).

> **[Update on the review of measles elimination status](https://www.paho.org/en/news/2-3-2026-update-review-measles-elimination-status)**
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> Washington, D.C., 2 March 2026 (PAHO) — The Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) informs that the review of the measles elimination status in the United States and Mexico will take place in November 2026, during the Commission’s regular annual...

> **[There are already more US measles cases this year than in all of 2025](https://apnews.com/article/2026-measles-cases-cdc-outbreak-elimination-371823df32b92169c3d220295f00f054)**
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> The U.S. has surpassed 2025’s record for measles cases, with five months left in 2026. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday it has logged more than 2,300 cases of measles as of Thursday.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/370 "2026-07-24T16:32:25Z")

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Just saw a post from an antivaxer on Facebook, sneering about how no one has died from measles yet in the U.S. in 2026 in spite of the upsurge in cases. When the next deaths occur, count on AVers to scoff at the “small” number - remember, only what happens in the U.S. counts.

PAHO is reporting more than two dozen measles deaths in 13 countries in the Americcas in 2025, plus vastly more hospitalizations for complications like pneumonia.

Virtually all of that is preventable by vaccination.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/371 "2026-07-24T16:36:52Z")

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On the NYT front page:

> **[Measles Cases Hit New Record in U.S., as Vaccination Rates Wane](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/24/well/measles-record-united-states-numbers.html)**

> More measles cases have been reported in the United States in the last two years than in all the years from 2000 through 2024 combined.

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**Post date:** [July 24, 2026, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/372 "2026-07-24T16:46:03Z")

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If you recover from measles(you probably will), there’s a chance all your immunity to other viral illnesses is gone.

You will be immuno-compromised possibly for years. This is not a place you wanna be.

Get vaxxed if you haven’t already.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2026, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/373 "2026-07-25T16:00:58Z")

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Excellent point. Kinda puts paid to the argument that you just have to suffer the disease itself, and you’ll be o.k.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/374 "2026-07-26T03:53:34Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> the argument that you just have to suffer the disease

More correctly you need to survive the disease.  
Totally avoiding contact also works as an option … though lacking practicality.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/375 "2026-07-26T13:25:23Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> More correctly you need to survive the disease.

Well, _technically_, if you don’t survive the disease, you can be quite sure of never contracting it again. So it works both ways.

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**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2026, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/376 "2026-07-26T20:15:22Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> More correctly you need to survive the disease.

Everyone alive today who had the measles before the vaccine survived.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/377 "2026-07-27T05:13:33Z")

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> [@Ancient\_Nerd](#):
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> Everyone alive today who had the measles before the vaccine survived

Maybe I’m just tired, but I’m having trouble figuring out what you’re saying.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/378 "2026-07-27T06:38:36Z")

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It’s a joke (I hope) about survivorship bias.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/379 "2026-07-27T06:49:06Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Maybe I’m just tired, but I’m having trouble figuring out what you’re saying.

Anyone who died of the measles before the vaccine would not be alive today. The only ones left survived their cases.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2026, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/380 "2026-07-27T12:31:36Z")

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Given how long ago the vaccine became commonplace, there are very few people in the wealthy world alive today from the pre-vaccine era. My parents were of that era. And died of something else decades ago. I can’t speak to the measles vaccination status of the poor world, but for all I know, they’ve been well-covered for decades too.

Measles vaccination, or naturally acquired immunity, are not heritable traits. Each generation starts off clean. As such, the survivors of decades or centuries before are irrelevant.

Of course, with the fools who’ve quit vaccinating now, we’re growing a whole new crop of unvaccinated folks who’ll once again get to be measles kills or measles survivors. Fast forward 20-20 years in this benighted nation of morons and we’ll be watching this unfold daily.

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