# First Measles death in Texas - Feb, 2025, and now in other parts of the US

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**Created:** [February 26, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834 "2025-02-26T16:56:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/161 "2025-03-20T21:02:58Z")

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I would think they are more likely to consult authoritative references, “look it up”.  
One ran out to me on the parking lot and apologized that she could not prescribe my tramadol, the weakest opiate in existence.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/162 "2025-03-20T21:04:08Z")

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My apologies if you took minor offense to my minor offense.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/163 "2025-03-20T21:19:53Z")

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No minor offense here. Or major. Or any, really.

I love your little mousie avatar. Walk softly, etc.

My sensitivity to knowledge or lack of same found in various medical personnel has a long and troubling history.

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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/164 "2025-03-20T21:42:33Z")

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On the general point about vaccines, I was taken to West Africa in the late 1940s when I was four years old. I recall having a number of vaccinations over a period of days. Some were quite painful

As far as I can research, it seems likely that I was probably vaccinated against: Smallpox, Diphtheria, Tetanus, Whooping Cough, Typhoid, Yellow Fever and Cholera. There was also something called Black Water Fever which was a complication of malaria and often fatal. I don’t believe there was a vaccine for that.

While living there we were given daily quinine tablets (Adults got theirs as tonic with gin) and salt tablets which my sister and I used to throw out as they were too big to swallow and tasted disgusting.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/165 "2025-03-20T22:14:15Z")

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I love them. I’m a nervous nellie alot, and I just lose my anxiety when they are in attendance.

PAs are my next favorite.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/166 "2025-03-20T22:39:24Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I love your little mousie avatar. Walk softly, etc.

That is Rat from Pearls Before Swine.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/167 "2025-03-20T22:44:51Z")

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Never heard of that. But just looked it up. I like the look of it!

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/168 "2025-03-20T22:46:51Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I mean, my money is on Bird flu being next.
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> Especially with Kennedy’s latest nifty idea:
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> [RFK, Jr. Wants to Let Bird Flu Spread on Poultry Farms. Why Experts Are Concerned | Scientific American](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/rfk-jr-wants-to-let-bird-flu-spread-on-poultry-farms-why-experts-are/)

Next he’ll be recommending bird flu parties to make sure all the chickens get exposed at once.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/169 "2025-03-20T22:48:52Z")

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They vary. Some (including the measles vaccine) are generally good for life. Others, like the whooping cough vaccine, provide protection that wanes over time. Even though I’ve had a few doses of that vaccine and also a case of whooping cough, I’m told that if i have grandchildren I’ll need to get a booster.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/170 "2025-03-20T22:51:17Z")

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I like the way Rat deals with problems.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/171 "2025-03-20T23:44:52Z")

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I’ll have to start reading that. 👍🏼

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/172 "2025-03-21T05:54:02Z")

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There is measles immune globulin, for people who had a high possibility of exposure but cannot be immunized right then. It can even be given during pregnancy.

> **[Measles-IGPEPQuicksheet.pdf](https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%20Document%20Library/Immunization/Measles-IGPEPQuicksheet.pdf)**
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/173 "2025-03-21T14:19:14Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> The denial is strong:
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> Full Title: **Man Whose Daughter Died From Measles Stands by Failure to Vaccinate Her: “The Vaccination Has Stuff We Don’t Trust”**
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> [Man Whose Daughter Died From Measles Stands by Failure to Vaccinate Her: "The Vaccination Has Stuff We Don’t Trust"](https://futurism.com/neoscope/measles-father-defends-anti-vaccination)

[Most noteworthy take](http://yahoo.com/news/parents-unvaccinated-6-old-killed-174054140.html) from the parents of the dead child:

"“It was her time on Earth,” the translator said of the deceased child. “They believe that she’s better off where she is now versus all the negativity and all the stuff going on. They think she was too good for this earth.”

Yep, better to be dead than hear stuff about how her parents failed her.

And really, why all the fuss? Four out of their five kids weren’t killed by measles. An 80% survival rate isn’t half bad!

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/174 "2025-03-21T14:28:04Z")

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Yeah, and lifetime deafness and mental disability is normal these days for kids anyway what with them on their phones and earbuds blasting music at high volume, right?

Not like we’ll notice the extra cases measles can cause.

I’m not saying we won’t get our hair mussed, but I am saying no more than 10 or 20 million dead. Tops.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/175 "2025-03-21T16:04:28Z")

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Mr. President! We must not allow an anti-vax gap!

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/176 "2025-03-21T18:30:26Z")

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> [@bob\_2](#):
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> On the general point about vaccines, I was taken to West Africa in the late 1940s when I was four years old. I recall having a number of vaccinations over a period of days. Some were quite painful

I went to the Congo in 1961 when I was 9, almost 10, and same thing. They spaced mine out over some weeks, at least. Most of them were okay, but some made me sick. I was out of school more than I was in that fall.  
We got quinine also. Never got sick the 9 months I was there.

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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/177 "2025-03-21T21:47:40Z")

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They may have been spaced out more - it was a long time ago.

We were in Sierra Leone for seven years apart from leave. We didn’t suffer any ill effects. I always tell people what a great place it was to be a child.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/178 "2025-03-22T15:12:20Z")

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> **[Measles arrives in Kansas, spreads quickly in undervaccinated counties](https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/03/measles-takes-off-in-kansas-amid-low-vaccination-at-least-10-cases-reported/)**
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> Since a single case last week, at least 9 more have been reported with more pending.

As of now, it’s unclear if the cases are connected to the mushrooming outbreak that began in West Texas.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/179 "2025-03-22T16:03:50Z")

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They are certainly logically and politically connected, even if no specific infected Texas individual somehow gave it directly to a Kansas individual.

Stupid is far more contagious than is measles. Has more transmission vectors too.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-measles-death-in-texas-feb-2025-and-now-in-other-parts-of-the-us/1014834/180 "2025-03-22T17:56:32Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> Some doctors are more risk adverse than others and they might have been one.

My son’s first doctor was a GP who accepted infants (and was so good, I wouldn’t have taken a pediatrician for love or money)-- it happened that way because none of the pediatricians in town took our insurance, which was the military Tri-care in the middle of OIF. But whatever.

She wasn’t my doctor, but when I clearly had pink-eye, that I had picked up at his preschool (where I worked), and was in a lot of pain, and was clearly suffering, at his appointment when I mentioned our next stop was the Urgent Care clinic, and I hoped he didn’t pick up something, she said she could write me something for the pink-eye.

So there could have been an issue of pediatrician over GP as well.

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