First Measles death in Texas - Feb, 2025, and now in other parts of the US

I don’t believe they even make the vaccines separately in US or Canada.

It will be MMR. Anyway.

An extra dose if you are already immune would probably not hurt you. IMO. But ask your doctor.

I went to the pharmacy and got a measles vax to be safe, rather than get tested first. If there was a down side, then the vaccines would have had to have been unsafe in the first place. My doctor had no problem with it.

I was lucky enough to be born in the mid 70s, so with plenty of people having memories of the bad old days, and eager and willing to have their kids fully vaccinated.

When I went back to school for a while in the 2010s, the College expected it’s incoming students to have a full MMR vax history. I didn’t want to bother trying to track that down after 30+ years, so I asked if they could just go ahead and give me a new, full MMR vaxx. They had no objections, and handled it through the school’s own clinic.

So for me, myself and I, it was no biggie to get it done again, and no pushback or testing required by the school to do so.

Of course, if you have complicating health issues, please review with your own physician!

I wonder why RFK Jr hasn’t come out against this vaccine?

None I’m aware of. When I was going through the ordeal, I asked the pharmacist your very question. He said no issues. So I asked why they couldn’t just give me the jab, and he said they would have people demanding unnecessary vaccinations if they did that.

I found this part of his answer disingenuous, since for all these years it hasn’t been a problem. Only in the Trump years. And if they’re having a problem with it in the Trump years, perhaps the concern is more about how limited availability of vaccines will become if the Trump regime has its way.

Give it / him time. There’s only so much rabble-rousing insanity to go around.

Yeah, taking time out of your schedule to get stuck with a sharp object and possibly feel under the weather for a bit afterwards, for no benefit. That’s something everyone will be lining up to do.

Not.

I thought he already had.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/01/22/nx-s1-5271582/rfk-hpv-vaccine-merck

Yeah, before he was even confirmed, he was suing the manager of the vaccine claiming it was harmful.

I know, right? So dumb!

I did feel kind of sorry for the pharmacist, though. I’m sure prior to the new requirements, he would have approved the jab with no issues. They’re just tasked with carrying out the senseless new regulations.

I wouldn’t be able to come up with any plausible reason to justify these idiotic new rules, either.

So much concentrated stupidity at the very top. Gawd I hate this timeline.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/vaccine-integrity-project/vaccine-integrity-project-will-conduct-independent-review-hpv-vaccine

It’s common for antivaxers to save their most intense vitriol for HPV and hepatitis B vaccines. For the general public, cancer is more scary than long-diminished vaccine-preventable infectious diseases, thus posing a particular risk to antivax ideology.

Those are both vaccines that weren’t ever recommended to my age cohort, that i went out if my way to get. In both cases i explained to my primary care physician why i wanted it, and they approved it, though. I didn’t just walk into a pharmacy.

(Neither took an extra appointment, both were add-ons to some appointment i already had.)

Something totally unexpected:

My understanding is that it’s the exact opposite: the HPV vaccine actually reduces the risk of cervical cancer, and is a key part of why it’s being recommended.

A quick Google search shows studies showing not only reduces that risk, but also of head and neck, esophageal, anal, and penile cancers, as well as leukemia. And it halves overall mortality rates at 8 and 20 year follow-ups.

There are just a lot of cancers associated with HPV.

Yes, i feel pretty good about having pushed my son to get the HPV vaccine when i wasn’t certain it had been approved yet for boys. It turned out it had just been approved and hadn’t yet been recommended. And he got it just before aging out of pediatric care. (Pediatricians reliably think about vaccines. Primary care physicians for adults are less reliable about that.) That’s a vaccine that’s well worth getting if you expect to be sexually active with new partners in your future.

I think what @Jackmannii was saying was that, since the HPV vaccine prevents so many cancers, it’s hard for anti-vaxxers to get normal people on board for avoiding that one.

But, but, if you’ll only ever have sex with your spouse, who only ever has sex with you, and you are both virgins when you marry, you don’t need the HPV vaccine.

Interestingly, when it first came out some rather fundie preacher was asked if he would have his daughter vaccinated and he said yes. Why? Because while he trusted his daughter to stay a virgin til marriage, he had no guarantee her husband would. Also, what if she gets raped?

Yes.

Count on it - vaccines engineered to specifically target certain hard-to-treat cancers will become targets of similarly bitter antivax opposition and lies. Hepatitis B and HPV may seem like distant perils, but almost everyone knows somebody with cancer, or has it themselves.

My co-worker’s daughter is 8. At her checkup last week, she received the 1st of 2 HPV vaccines. When my own daughters got them 15-ish years ago, they were well into their teens. The co-worker’s doctor said that by giving the shots at a younger age, it 1) removes the whole sex aspect from the equation, as it’s just one more in a bunch of vaxxes that kids get; and 2) only two doses are needed, instead of three. Sounds great to me!