Put that on a t shirt.
Problem is the morons would misinterpret the shirt as meaning that since stupid is innate, therefore measles is not contagious. And the whole thing is a librul plot.
D’oh!!
But heck, only one fatality so far-- pretty good, eh? 
/s
And no lingering ill effects!
(that we know of)
RFK Jr. ordered/requested that the fake CDC website that suggested a vaccine-autism link be taken down. It’s been traced to Children’s Health Defense, the group that Junior founded and (cough) has no current affiliation with.
But CHD is totally honest and open, not like those crooked shill scientists, right?
The phony CDC site promoted a paper by BS Hooker, the guy whose retraction notice is beyond embarrassing.
How weird that so many antivax papers have gotten retracted for bad methodology, undeclared conflicts of interest etc., something that doesn’t happen with papers disproving a vaccine-autism link. Must be part of the gigantic Pharma-Vax conspiracy.
/s
I’m just venting so please excuse me. I’ve spent decades, literally decades, engaging with the … “vaccine hesitant” … usually in a mutually respectful fashion. Listening to the concerns and trying to address them. Occasionally winning them over. I’ve been a big advocate for that process.
And today I nearly lost it. A mom who had brought her kids, now 2 and 4, to see us up to a few months after the younger was born. Went elsewhere now back to us. Each had their primary vaccine series. The four year old due for MMRV (measles-mumps-rubella-varicella) and DTaP-IPV (diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis-polio). Fine visit until vaccines part. “I started out doing the shots but now I’ve done my research and …” a bunch of completely absolutely false shit. There’s lots of mercury to start. Nope. MMRV never did and none in the other for many many years. My telling her that was “bullshit.” My informing her that she is entitled to refuse but that I’d need her to sign a form acknowledging that I’ve told her that doing so is not only increasing her own children’s risk of death from preventable diseases, but also putting other children at risk as well, especially in the context of the current measles outbreak and increase whooping cough numbers, also “bullshit”. Stupid liberal crap. They are just call croup whooping cough (every case labeled is tested positive) and lying about the measles cases. She left before we got to the form part. Happy to see her go to be sure, and happier that she will …self deport … from our practice … but it has never been this bad before. I’ve not convinced people before, but never this level of aggression to the defense of complete misinformation.
Argh. 
I admire and respect you for trying and sticking to the truth in the face of such “did my research”.
The couple who drives me to and from church was in a great mood on the way there.
On the way home she " came at me."
First with the God said only singing no musical accompaniment.
Second to defend maganut, who is a member, against my gossiping.
Then suddenly covid vax.
Yes, I got it 4 years ago.
Vax’s cause autism.
I said Jenny McCarthy.
There have been long strings found in people who were vaxxed.
I will be happy to tell her I am getting my booster.
This is the year 2025.
Hard to believe.
For anti-vaxxers, it’s not something they reasoned their way into; it’s an article of faith and as immune to rational discussion as any other religious belief.
I disagree. Our OP indicated that they’ve had at least some success with other, vaxx-hesitant individuals.
Oh, not that you’re wrong that they’re irrational, but they’ve been TRAINED to disregard and shut down anyone who dares disagree with them. So they can’t be reached or reasoned with. But it’s more like they’ve joined a cult that (among other things) says anyone who disagrees with you is not only WRONG but actively part of conspiracy.
Slight difference between someone who actually is skeptical and/or drawing from bad sources.
This mom for sure.
Again though, not always. It is worse now. There used to be more who were just anxious and willing to at least engage if they felt their anxieties were being treated with respect. Those are fewer of the decliners now. And I have never had this sort of hostility about it before.
Of course she might have doubled back to us because she was kicked out of her last pediatrician’s office. Who knows?
I had always been a loud voice on the side of keeping decliners in our practice and persistently trying to bring them over. To occasional success. Now if a department vote came up? I think I’d at least vote for no new decliners. That’s a big shift for me.
… with peer-reviewed comic books, no doubt.
Plus we all know @DSeid = big pharma, and hence injecting microchips that run for decades on batteries the size of a grain of salt into their kids brains.
Everybody knows that.
You say that like it’s a bad thing?
Thank you for trying.
Fuckwits now dosing their kids with excessive Vitamin A at the suggestion of another even bigger fuckwit (gift link).
Many of those patients had been in the hospital for a severe measles infection; doctors discovered the liver damage only after routine lab work.
I have a friend who is a GP. His favorite t-shirt says, “Your Google search is not the equivalent of my medical degree.”
I don’t like that. There have been a number of cases where i knew more about some medical thing that affected me than my doctor. Not ever in a core area of the doctor’s practice, but I’ve questioned my GP about stuff that he took to a gynecologist who confirmed what I’d googled, and I’ve known information about how i, personally, have reacted to a drug in the past that was relevant and that my doctor didn’t know.
In general, i think @DSeid is right to approach these issues in a mutually respectful fashion, and not try to bully patients with his authority.
And I’m sure that some parents with vaccine hesitancy aren’t crazy quasi-religious fanatics, but are just concerned parents who can be educated and reassured as to the safety and efficacy of childhood vaccines, and why getting them for your kids is playing the odds.
The two sides of the argument for pediatric practices have really boiled down to whether or not bullying can actually be more effective.
Traditionally I’ve been on the side that says no. Engagement is the way to go.
The other side argues that our being willing to see these families is enabling their dysfunctionality. Not being able to find local docs willing to take care of them imposes a cost that some may not be willing to pay. They can go to urgent cares and EDs for acute illnesses to their satisfaction perhaps, but they need school and sport physicals.
My past years of winning some over had convinced me I was right. This woman’s overt hostility, and fewer successes than past years, is making me wonder if I still am. Maybe I am just getting older and tired of it but it also is different than it used to be.
I think you can engage respectfully, but say that you aren’t willing to treat a child who is unvaccinated due to the risk that child might pose to your other patients, or because “you and i aren’t a good fit”, without saying, "i have an MD and you don’t, so I’m right ". That’s how i read that t-shirt, which would really put me off, even if i liked the doctor in other ways.