# First moon landing

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [October 23, 1999, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172 "1999-10-23T07:41:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![dismalbogs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@dismalbogs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dismalbogs)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 1999, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/1 "1999-10-23T07:41:00Z")

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Was the first moon landing faked? If not why can you see through the astronaut when he is passing in front of the lunar module. How was the camera there before the astronauts? My uncle believes you can see through the astronaut because the camera would burn an image of the module in to the film and since the astronaut tis moving he is not. (Sort of why you never see people on streets of really old city pictures, because it took a much longer exposure than now days therefore moving people do not get exposed.

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 1999, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/2 "1999-10-23T07:54:00Z")

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Are you going to talk about the angle of the shadows on the ground in the moon pictures too?

DHR

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 1999, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/3 "1999-10-23T07:56:00Z")

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Another thought just occurred to me.

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> Was the first moon landing faked?

Maybe Mr. Gorsky is the only one who knows for sure.

DHR

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**Author:** ![EvilGhandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@EvilGhandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilGhandi)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 1999, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/4 "1999-10-23T08:50:00Z")

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I was always partial to… “why is there no crater from the landing rocket under the module?” question myself.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 1999, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/5 "1999-10-23T11:22:00Z")

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Also, why didn’t they bring back any of the green cheese?.. coulda helped solve world hunger, ya know.

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**Author:** ![audit1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@audit1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audit1)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 1999, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/6 "1999-10-23T13:15:00Z")

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As to how the camera got there. The camera was mounted on a retractable arm on the lunar module. At the time of the moon walks the arm deployed and we got the first view of the astronauts. Armstrong and company would later move the camera to a tripod to get the shots showing both the astronauts and the LEM. the camera could also be attatched to the lunar rover. It could also pan and zoom being conrolled from Earth.

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**Author:** ![Doug\_Bowe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@Doug\_Bowe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_Bowe)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 1999, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/7 "1999-10-23T19:12:00Z")

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Why limit the question to the first moon landing being fake? There are 37 more.  
And with Lunar Retriever 1 in 2002 there will be a 38th fake landing.  
Fake litter left behind include: 3 lunar rovers, 6 US flags, two golf balls hit by Alan Shepard, 6 loads of garbage, the ashes  
of astronomer Eugene Shoemaker and 2 plaques with President Nixon’s signature.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 1999, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/8 "1999-10-23T20:17:00Z")

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Of course all that Lunar stuff is fake. Just ask yourself: How hard would Richard Nixon have had to press down on a pen to leave his signature on a metal plaque? Once you realize the logical inconsistency of this one claim, the whole moon-landing house of cards collapses.

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**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 1999, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/9 "1999-10-23T21:39:00Z")

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Of course it was real. Here’s the dialogue from the landing:

[http://ramhurl.film.com/smildemohurl.ram?file=filmcom/onion/one/onion\_1.smi](http://ramhurl.film.com/smildemohurl.ram?file=filmcom/onion/one/onion_1.smi)

You can’t fake stuff like this!

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Yer pal,  
Satan

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 1999, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/10 "1999-10-23T21:46:00Z")

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The Apollo 13 landing was faked.

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Those who do not learn from the past are condemned to relive it. Georges Santayana

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 1999, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/11 "1999-10-23T22:26:00Z")

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## The Moon landings were not faked. They were essential preparation for the transfer of all humanity onto the Great Space Ark which brought us here. It was difficult doing it with out letting all the stupid people know what we were doing, though, but I think it was worth it, unless they find out what really happened in '82.

Dr. Fidelius, Charlatan  
Associate Curator Anomalous Paleontology, Miskatonic University  
“You cannot reason a man out of a position he did not reach through reason.”

Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretty nasti…

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 1999, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/12 "1999-10-23T23:36:00Z")

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DrF is quoting Steve Martin, y’all.

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Those who do not learn from the past are condemned to relive it. Georges Santayana

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 1999, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/13 "1999-10-24T02:08:00Z")

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I only steal from the best, Jabs.

If I mentioned the giant space goat, folks here would be able to place the reference.

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**Author:** ![Arken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@Arken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arken)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 1999, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/14 "1999-10-24T08:42:00Z")

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> the ashes of astronomer Eugene Shoemaker

I never heard about this. When/how did it happen?

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 1999, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/15 "1999-10-24T12:56:00Z")

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\<font size=4\>The Moon Landings Were Real. Richard Nixon, However, Was Fake. He Was An Audio-Animatronic Robot, Manufactured By Disney’s Imagineers.

Or, He Was Just An Asshole.\</font\>

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YO-HO, ME HEARTIES! ALL HANDS ON DECK FOR THE MUSICAL BATTLE AT SEA!

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**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 1999, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/16 "1999-10-24T18:09:00Z")

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Yooohooooo… grab the shotgan maaa. Damn big government big business Disney bastards are at it again with those robots, Al Gore is another god damned Nixon clone.

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You know, doing what is right is easy. The problem is knowing what is right.

–Lyndon B. Johnson

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**Author:** ![gary\_horaczek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@gary\_horaczek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gary_horaczek)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 1999, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/17 "1999-10-24T20:09:00Z")

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The moon landing was a fake? Next thing you know they’ll be saying there is no Santa… Inspector Clay’s Dead,Murdered. And Somebody’s Responsible!-Plan 9 From Outer Space

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**Author:** ![Alphagene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Alphagene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alphagene)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 1999, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-moon-landing/4172/18 "1999-10-25T04:25:00Z")

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Arken:

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> On a visit to inspect meteor crater phenomena in Australia, Dr. Shoemaker died in an automobile accident in July 1997. \*\*His ashes were subsequently carried to the Moon aboard NASA’s Lunar Prospector launched in January 1998. \*\*This is the first time that an individual’s ashes have been placed aboard a probe…

[http://spaceboy.nasda.go.jp/note/Kagaku/E/kag9812\_shoemaker\_e.html](http://spaceboy.nasda.go.jp/note/Kagaku/E/kag9812_shoemaker_e.html)

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Back off, man. I’m a scientist.
