# First Motion Picture sequel?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 9, 2002, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475 "2002-12-09T07:42:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![CelraySoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CelraySoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CelraySoda)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475/1 "2002-12-09T07:42:53Z")

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What was the first sequel ever done for a Motion Picture movie?  
-M

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**Author:** ![RobertTB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@RobertTB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobertTB)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475/2 "2002-12-09T09:22:04Z")

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The Golem: How He Came Into The World, 1920.

was the sequel to…

The Golem, 1915.

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**Author:** ![Harmonix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Harmonix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonix)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475/3 "2002-12-09T09:29:55Z")

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[nitpick]  
not that I can verify. but that sounds like a _pre_quel to me.  
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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475/4 "2002-12-09T10:11:23Z")

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OMG.

This is the third or fourth thread this _week_ that I wanted to post and someone else did before me.

GET OUT OF MY BRAIN!!!\>!\>H!(j!1

Also, expect this to be moved to Cafe soon.

Also, when answering this, be sure to tell the difference between sequel and serial.  
I would give the following qualifiers:

1. Both the first and second movie had to be a-list movies (no “Night of the Mummies” part 7)

2. The sequel had to be completely unexpected. (if it was part of a book series it don’t count. So bye bye Tarzan et al)

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475/5 "2002-12-09T10:12:36Z")

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According to IMDb, Paul Wegener did another Golem film in 1917, i.e. after his 1915 film but before the 1920 film. The 1920 film does sound like a serial, but the 1917 film doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475/6 "2002-12-09T10:16:50Z")

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On second thoughts, and on closer reading, the Golem stuff may not qualify. The 1920 film is more of a re-make, while the 1917 film is a sort-of sequel that follows the subsequent lives of the actors rather than the characters.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475/7 "2002-12-09T13:31:26Z")

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Under the qualifications, Valentino’s “Son of the Shiek” (1926) clearly qualifies as a sequel to “The Shiek.”

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475/8 "2002-12-09T16:09:27Z")

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Anyone have a list of early early Edison films? If any two of them featured the same person doing different things, could the second be considered a sequel to the first?

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475/9 "2002-12-09T16:37:10Z")

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It’s hard to pin down firsts, but in this case, it’s pretty cut-and dried:

[L’ arroseur arrosé](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0000014#comment) (The Sprayer Sprayed, 1895), was remade as [The Bad Boy and the Gardener](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0236005) in 1896, and as [A Practical Joke](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0258043) in 1898.

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**Author:** ![CelraySoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CelraySoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CelraySoda)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475/10 "2002-12-09T17:18:17Z")

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I don’t think I ever saw the Golem. Was Robert Redford in it? 😉

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475/11 "2002-12-09T18:18:12Z")

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Eve, are those sequals or remakes?

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475/12 "2002-12-09T18:37:43Z")

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Hmmm, dunno if that’s really clear. Is it the _same_ boy character playing a prank, or a different boy?

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**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-motion-picture-sequel/141475/13 "2002-12-09T23:38:48Z")

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Um, I’m confused. What’s the difference between a sequel and a serial (movie, that is)?
