# First Occasional No Googling Baseball Trivia Quiz

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 5, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-occasional-no-googling-baseball-trivia-quiz/448189 "2008-05-05T21:04:46Z")\
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Congrats! McCarver it is. He was with the Cards in 1969, with the Phillies in 1977, and he played 77 games for the Expos in 1972. And of course, he’s now a broadcaster.

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OK, so another one. This kind of very strange play has never happened in Major League Baseball in 130-plus years, but it took place once in Cuba: a quadruple play.

Explain how a quadruple play could happen, **where the fourth out is absolutely necessary**.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
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[QUOTE=Intelligently Designed]  
OK, so another one. This kind of very strange play has never happened in Major League Baseball in 130-plus years, but it took place once in Cuba: a quadruple play.

Explain how a quadruple play could happen, **where the fourth out is absolutely necessary**.  
[/QUOTE]

This was in one of Thomas Boswell’s books. IIRC, it is bases loaded with no outs and a fly ball is hit to the outfield. The catch is made, and the runners on first and second get picked off, but the runner on third tags up and scores before the third out is made. The fielding team them makes an appeal play at third claiming the runner left early. The third base umpire is required to make a call because a run has scored on the play. He declares that the runner left early, and calls him out, for the fourth out of the inning.

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Wow, **Lamar** , that was neat.

I don’t know about Boswell, but I picked up the story in Jonathan Fraser Light’s _The Cultural Encyclopedia of Baseball_. Light says the umpires in the Cuban game denied the appeal because there were already three outs and allowed the run to score. I think they were wrong.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-occasional-no-googling-baseball-trivia-quiz/448189/105 "2008-05-18T03:21:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Intelligently Designed]  
Wow, **Lamar** , that was neat.

I don’t know about Boswell, but I picked up the story in Jonathan Fraser Light’s _The Cultural Encyclopedia of Baseball_. Light says the umpires in the Cuban game denied the appeal because there were already three outs and allowed the run to score. I think they were wrong.  
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They were quite unquestionably wrong, since the rulebook is pretty specific on the point. It even uses the term “Fourth out” and talks about how umpires may have to, in this one circumstance, acknowlege a fourth out.

Of course, why the Rules Committee hasn’t just written in “In this situation the run does not count” I simply don’t understand.

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Too late to edit. The exact way it happened:

Bases loaded, 0 out. Batter hits line drive to center field, 1 out. Runner on second left too early, CF throws to second, 2 out. Runner on first tagged and started toward second thinking the throw would be at the plate. He is caught in a rundown and finally tagged, 3 out. Runner on third scores before the third out, but defensive team appeals at third and the umpire says he left too soon. This fourth out is essential to cancel the run.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
They were quite unquestionably wrong, since the rulebook is pretty specific on the point. It even uses the term “Fourth out” and talks about how umpires may have to, in this one circumstance, acknowlege a fourth out.

Of course, why the Rules Committee hasn’t just written in “In this situation the run does not count” I simply don’t understand.  
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Well, because the run _should_ count according to the rules (assuming the runner did not leave early). There are any number of scenarios where a run can score on the same play where the third out is made.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-occasional-no-googling-baseball-trivia-quiz/448189/108 "2008-05-18T15:36:52Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
They were quite unquestionably wrong, since the rulebook is pretty specific on the point. It even uses the term “Fourth out” and talks about how umpires may have to, in this one circumstance, acknowlege a fourth out.  
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I umped a Little League game last year where we made the Fourth Out call. Highlight of my officiating career. 🙂

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-occasional-no-googling-baseball-trivia-quiz/448189/109 "2008-05-18T16:47:45Z")

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Which major league team has played in all three A.L. divisions?

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[QUOTE=cmkeller]  
Which major league team has played in all three A.L. divisions?[/QUOT

nevermind

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[QUOTE=cmkeller]  
Which major league team has played in all three A.L. divisions?  
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Milwaukee Brewers

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[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane]  
Well, because the run _should_ count according to the rules (assuming the runner did not leave early). There are any number of scenarios where a run can score on the same play where the third out is made.  
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But your parenthetical is the central point; the fourth out rule only applies **if the runner left early.**

It would be simpler, and more logical, to say the run simply does not count if a runner leaves the base early but the third out is made elsewhere. It’s a bizarre overcomplication of what could be a simpler rule.

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
But your parenthetical is the central point; the fourth out rule only applies **if the runner left early.**

It would be simpler, and more logical, to say the run simply does not count if a runner leaves the base early but the third out is made elsewhere. It’s a bizarre overcomplication of what could be a simpler rule.  
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Except that the fielding team still must make an appeal and the umpire must make the call. Calls on whether a runner laves early are not made by umpires without an appeal to generate it. That would be changing the very nature of the game.

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1. Who holds the major league record for most consecutive putouts in a game?
2. The first five players inducted into the baseball hall of fame solely as players were Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Babe Ruth, Honus Wagner, Nap Lajoie, Tris Speaker, and Cy Young. Nap Lajoie is the odd man out in this group. What did he not do that everyone else on the list did?
3. What member of the \*Football \*Hall of Fame gave up two of Babe Ruth’s 60 home runs in 1927?
4. Next to “Casey at the Bat,” baseball’s most famous poem was “Baseball’s Sad Lexicon,” better known as “Tinker to Evers to Chance.” Who wrote the poem? Give both pseudonym and real name.
5. Speaking of Casey, a vaudeville performer made his career by reciting it on stage. What what the name of this person’s daughter? On what TV show did his grandson become a dependable second lead?

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I see there are two answers to #41. Name both.

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ZamboniRacer is correct about the Brewers. AL West 1970-1971, AL East 1972-1993, AL Central 1994-1997.

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[QUOTE=RealityChuck]

1. What member of the \*Football \*Hall of Fame gave up two of Babe Ruth’s 60 home runs in 1927?

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Ernie Nevers

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1. In 1982, who got a base hit for two different major league teams on the same day?

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45 - Joel Youngblood

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[QUOTE=cmkeller]  
45 - Joel Youngblood  
[/QUOTE]

And he did it in two different cities. 🙂

Zev Steinhardt

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