# First openly gay Disney characters? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 1, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832 "2016-04-01T14:10:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/1 "2016-04-01T14:10:29Z")
Someone on TV Tropes mentioned that the characters Sheriff Blubs and Deputy Durland, from the Disney TV show _Gravity Falls_, are the first characters in Disney history depicted as openly, publicly gay (they declare in a public meeting that they are “mad with love” for each other, and embrace) - is this true, or are there others that predate these two? > **[Gravity Falls / Ho Yay - TV Tropes](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HoYay/GravityFalls)** > > Dipper Pines Bill and Dipper get one moment in "Sock Opera". Their first meeting involves Bill insisting that Dipper missed him and how he (Bill) liked him. He also is touchy-feely toward him in this episode, even touching his lower back with a … ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/2 "2016-04-01T14:13:38Z")
This is seriously wrong. A superior should not be in a relationship with a subordinate. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/3 "2016-04-01T14:20:01Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > This is seriously wrong. > > A superior should not be in a relationship with a subordinate. > 😉 It worked for me, once. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/4 "2016-04-01T14:29:00Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > This is seriously wrong. > > A superior should not be in a relationship with a subordinate. > 😉 Probably the least of their faults, as officers. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/5 "2016-04-01T14:32:21Z")
There was a lesbian couple on _Good Luck Charlie_, which IIRC was touted as a first. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/6 "2016-04-01T14:34:37Z")
The mice in _Cinderella_ were clearly gay. ---
**Author:** ![CGav8r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@CGav8r](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CGav8r)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/7 "2016-04-01T14:37:57Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > There was a lesbian couple on _Good Luck Charlie_, which IIRC was touted as a first. Then “Gravity Falls” can say that they had the first openly gay characters on a non-awful Disney show. (Those were dark days, when my now 17 year old daughter watched “Good Luck Charlie”, “I’m in the Band”, anything with Zack and Cody. “Gravity Falls” is awesome, as are “Phineas & Ferb”, “Regular Show”, and “Adventure Time”.) ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/8 "2016-04-01T14:47:23Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > There was a lesbian couple on _Good Luck Charlie_, which IIRC was touted as a first. Yup. I guess Gravity Falls has to take the lesser “first in an animated series” title. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/9 "2016-04-01T15:28:02Z")
Come on - Chip 'n Dale are the obvious answers. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/10 "2016-04-01T15:53:52Z")
What does the[Super _Duper_ Nazi Superman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn20oXFrxxg&t=2m27s) count as? ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/11 "2016-04-01T16:50:27Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > Come on - Chip 'n Dale are the obvious answers. Stereotype. Just because a couple of guys live together, and are very polite and have good manners towards each other while feloniously stealing someone else’s produce, does not mean that they are gay. For that matter, they are more likely to be (well-brought-up) brothers. ---
**Author:** ![Disheavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Disheavel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disheavel)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/12 "2016-04-01T17:25:52Z")
> [@Wargamer](#): > > Come on - Chip 'n Dale are the obvious answers. There was definitely an episode where Chip or Dale goes crazy (heart beating out of chest and eyes dilating to stars?/hearts? and stomps his foot) after seeing an attractive female. So I doubt that at least one of them was gay… now the other one… ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/13 "2016-04-01T18:28:44Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Stereotype. Just because a couple of guys live together, and are very polite and have good manners towards each other while feloniously stealing someone else’s produce, does not mean that they are gay. For that matter, they are more likely to be (well-brought-up) brothers. Are you possibly confusing them, as I did momentarily, with [Merrie Melodies Goofy Gophers](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Goofy_Gophers.png) ? (I love those guys!) I honestly cannot remember anything much about C & D. Don’t they speak in chipmunk voices? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/14 "2016-04-01T18:52:01Z")
> [@Disheavel](#): > > There was definitely an episode where Chip or Dale goes crazy (heart beating out of chest and eyes dilating to stars?/hearts? and stomps his foot) after seeing an attractive female. So I doubt that at least one of them was gay… now the other one… [Here they both actually come to blows in rivalry over a cute lady chipmunk (although they accidentally kiss each other near the end).](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_Fl-jV6VAk) > [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > Are you possibly confusing them, as I did momentarily, with [Merrie Melodies Goofy Gophers](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Goofy_Gophers.png) ? (I love those guys!) I honestly cannot remember anything much about C & D. Don’t they speak in chipmunk voices? Although the Goofy Gophers sometimes [act a little swish,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSTBqim2Vg4) in [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10BRXRUfnw) they also swoon over a female gopher puppet. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/15 "2016-04-01T20:40:13Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > What does the[Super _Duper_ Nazi Superman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn20oXFrxxg&t=2m27s) count as? So you’re saying that Nazi Donald Duck is gay? ---
**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/16 "2016-04-01T20:47:59Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > [Here they both actually come to blows in rivalry over a cute lady chipmunk (although they accidentally kiss each other near the end).](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_Fl-jV6VAk) That was no accident. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/17 "2016-04-01T23:57:23Z")
Dean Jones? ---
**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/18 "2016-04-02T01:08:20Z")
There have been rumours since 1994 that Scar of Lion King fame was gay. > **[The Representations of Gender, Sexuality and Race in Disney’s The Lion King](https://www.academia.edu/4893757/The_Representations_of_Gender_Sexuality_and_Race_in_Disney_s_The_Lion_King)** > > The Representations of Gender, Sexuality and Race in Disney’s The Lion King ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/19 "2016-04-02T02:28:22Z")
Ryan Evans from **High School Musical** is coded as gay, but of course never came out onscreen. In the stage version he’s openly gay though. > [@Wargamer](#): > > Come on - Chip 'n Dale are the obvious answers. I always thought Chip 'b Dale were brothers. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832/20 "2016-04-02T05:33:29Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Although the Goofy Gophers sometimes [act a little swish,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSTBqim2Vg4) in [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10BRXRUfnw) they also swoon over a female gopher puppet. They’re like Frasier and Niles. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-openly-gay-disney-characters/750832.md?page=2)