# First Oral Sex Scene on Network TV **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 19, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749 "2010-08-19T16:25:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/21 "2010-08-19T17:33:02Z")
> [@Chicagojeff](#): > > In the first season of Joe Millionaire..it was pretty clear in the next to last episode that Sarah was going for hers behind a a tree with Joe.. I remember you could hear an audible slurp. I’m shamed that I can, but I can corroborate this. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/22 "2010-08-19T17:41:57Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Then \*Buffy \*doesn’t count. 😃 Sure it does. The WB and UPN were considered “networks” as far TV ratings are concerned. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/23 "2010-08-19T17:43:22Z")
Ah, thought the scene was from the last year’s season… ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/24 "2010-08-19T17:44:41Z")
I would be very surprised if oral sex has not been depicted previously on a “soap opera”. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/25 "2010-08-19T17:46:44Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > > [@silenus](#): > > > > Then \*Buffy \*doesn’t count. 😃 > > Sure it does. The WB and UPN were considered “networks” as far TV ratings are concerned. **MsWhatsit** said “major” networks. UPN was never “major” anything except lame. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/26 "2010-08-19T17:51:47Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > A dopey sitcom did this, with the wife trying something new by blowing her husband in the car while he was driving. They crash, cop asks what happened, husband says “Show him, honey!” > > I forget which show, maybe Everybody Loves Raymond or Malcom In The Middle or something like that. The couple definitely wasn’t young; 40s at least. I think you are thinking of the movie _Parenthood_. That was Mr. Steve Martin and Mary Steenburgen who try to duplicate something that the Rick Moranis/(someone else) couple described doing. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/27 "2010-08-19T17:55:00Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > > [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > > > Sure it does. The WB and UPN were considered “networks” as far TV ratings are concerned. > > **MsWhatsit** said “major” networks. UPN was never “major” anything except lame. Har har har. But The WB, UPN and their merged child, The CW are all considered broadcast networks whether you like it or not. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/28 "2010-08-19T18:18:43Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Seinfeld had an episode all about it. And there were some very obvious scenes with George under the covers. Dunno if it is the same episode, but there is one where Elaine is dating a sax player, and complains that he doesn’t “do everything”. Context makes clear that “everything” is giving her oral. So eventually the guy does–between sets–then returns to the stage and can’t play the sax because his lips/tongue are…tired? Otherwise unusable? Something…think he even sputtters up a pube or something. Also, one of those recent forgettable sitcoms–the one with the hefty guy that drives for a UPS-clone and the hot wife. She got drunk and gave him a hummer, so he plots on how to recreate the incident and comic hijinks ensue. ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/29 "2010-08-19T18:30:46Z")
There was a hilarious episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm about this last year. It’s an HBO show though. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/30 "2010-08-19T18:33:05Z")
There was an episode where June told Ward the Beaver needed a tongue-lashing. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/31 "2010-08-19T18:34:46Z")
> [@fiddlesticks](#): > > I think you are thinking of the movie _Parenthood_. That was Mr. Steve Martin and Mary Steenburgen who try to duplicate something that the Rick Moranis/(someone else) couple described doing. I am indeed. My bad. (And good memory on you.) ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/32 "2010-08-19T18:41:08Z")
> [@Serenata67](#): > > > [@fiddlesticks](#): > > > > Hmm, this thread calls out for a clip of said scene in “The Good Wife” so we can tell what they did that was so groundbreakingly new in network oral sex portrayal. 🙂 > > The article mentions that the suggested oral sex scene will probably not air… Then her statement makes no sense at all. Since when do unaired scenes count as being on network TV? ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/33 "2010-08-19T18:41:35Z")
Come on guys! Barbara Cooper! 1987! ---
**Author:** ![dhkendall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9adbd/32.png) [@dhkendall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dhkendall)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/34 "2010-08-19T18:49:13Z")
> [@bup](#): > > There was an episode where June told Ward the Beaver needed a tongue-lashing. 😃 > [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > I recall a scene from a 1987 movie called [**I’ll Take Manhattan**](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092378/), where Valerie Bertinelli – yes, Barbara Cooper herself – unbuckled her guy’s belt in a manner that left no doubt whatsoever what was about to transpire. It was so blatant (even on its network TV broadcast) that even my mother-in-law commented on it. Movies don’t count. If it did, the infamous [The Brown Bunny](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0330099/) would have been brought up by now. (I assume Dopers are smart enough to know why this movie would come up in this thread.) ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/35 "2010-08-19T18:53:12Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > Come on guys! Barbara Cooper! 1987! I’ve already been to ma bunk. I’ll be back there in a few minutes after a rest… ---
**Author:** ![Serenata67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/serenata67/32/10646_2.png) [@Serenata67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serenata67)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/36 "2010-08-19T19:05:36Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > > [@Serenata67](#): > > > > The article mentions that the suggested oral sex scene will probably not air… > > Then her statement makes no sense at all. Since when do unaired scenes count as being on network TV? Never accused Juliana Margulies of being a logic champion. ---
**Author:** ![TheBoltEater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheBoltEater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheBoltEater)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/37 "2010-08-19T19:14:01Z")
> [@Chicagojeff](#): > > In the first season of Joe Millionaire..it was pretty clear in the next to last episode that Sarah was going for hers behind a a tree with Joe.. I remember you could hear an audible slurp. The fact that she denied it in a Playboy interview confirmed it to me.. Actually, it would appear that that probably never happened. I can’t seem to find a good link to the Radar article about it, but [this article from Reality Blurred](http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/industry_news/2005_Oct_24_radar_editors) discusses it. The article is about what they call “Frankenbyting” - i.e., the process of merging audio from one or more scenes with video from another to make the audience think something happened. Specifically, they allege that audio of Sarah getting a back massage from a girl was combined with fake slurping noises she never made and a shot of some trees to make you think she was going downtown in the woods. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/38 "2010-08-19T19:19:12Z")
Chris Noth didn’t get a real blowjob either. It’s still a depiction of oral sex on a broadcast network. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/39 "2010-08-19T19:22:04Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Chris Noth didn’t get a real blowjob either. It’s still a depiction of oral sex on a broadcast network. Except it hasn’t aired yet, and probably won’t, so the “on a broadcast network” part is a bit problematical. ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/40 "2010-08-19T19:41:38Z")
Back in season 3 of Friends, after Ross and Rachel had broken up, there is an episode that has him pining to his ex, who is now a lesbian. (The One Without the Ski Trip) Ross goes over to Carol, his ex, and Susan’s and as Ross is talking, Carol picks at her tongue. That seemed pretty obvious to me what was being hinted. Okay, it’s 1997 but I don’t know the 1987 reference. vislor [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749.md?page=3)