# First Oral Sex Scene on Network TV

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 19, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749 "2010-08-19T16:25:08Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/81 "2010-08-21T05:17:53Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Has the frontal nudity taboo (male or female) ever been broken on prime time network television? Some channels aired _Schindler’s List_ uncut which included scenes of frontal nudity among concentration camp inmates- some aired a censored version- but I’m referring to television series. While I’m sure we’ve never seen an actual penis or public area, have we ever seen a partial one or pubes even?  
> (The most likely to do so would probably be a medical show like E.R. showing it in a non-sexual context.)

Are you counting that one mistress or whatever as a concentration camp inmate? You know, the scene that you would now expect the L-shaped sheet. It’s been so long, I can’t remember the context.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/82 "2010-08-21T05:30:23Z")

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> [@ministryman](#):
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> I think you were thinking of the movie, “Parenthood”.

Yep, I sure was. Thanks much. In fairness to me, Parenthood is actually a broadcast network tv show now, so the wires got crossed in my memory. Yeah, that’s the story I’m sticking to.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/83 "2010-08-24T00:29:56Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Around 1972 there was an episode of _Mr. Rogers_ in which Queen Sarah Saturday wanted to borrow a book from the library but couldn’t find the librarian, Milady Stacks. Telling king Friday XIII about it he merely said “Oh… oh… oh yes… really…”, causing her to tear away the tapestry from the podium he was standing at and learning that Milady Stacks was in fact the king’s mistress. The oral sex was not explicit, only implied, but the implication strengthened when Milady Stacks told the queen “Begging your majesty’s pardon, though my valley hath ne’er been plowed yet my mouth is filled with kingly seed”, culminating in her expelling Milady from her maidens until King Friday solemnly swore to her while holding the relic of St. Augustine of Florida and in the presence of His Holiness Pope Purrie that “I hath with Milady been improperly intimate, I do so yield and and will penance make before God and before my queen, but know that even yet is she a maid and her maidenhead intact and the union hath not been made consummate in such a way as to create progeny”.
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> Obviously this changed before the 1976 story arc when Milady Stacks bore his bastard Sir Blue Monday, challenged the legitimacy of Prince Tuesday, and drove Queen Sarah Saturday from court as she entered a sham marriage with the king. How many times did I rush in to the house to see how Queen Sarah Saturday, a still regal and arrogant but near penniless exile in Sesame Street, strove to raise and finance a muppet army and stage a coup on behalf of Prince Tuesday without having to promise away half of Make Believe’s revenues. The Fairchilde/Von Count Treaty whereby they reconciled, King Friday XIII agreeing to abdicate upon Prince Tuesday’s 21st birthday and forever remove Blue Monday from the succession, Milady Stacks being exiled to Bemidji, Minnesota (tell me you didn’t have to look that one up on the map when it aired!) and restoring her abandoned jewels in exchange for Queen Sarah Saturday agreeing to DNA testing for the prince and an oath of fealty to him until his education that would result in her immediate excommunication should she again seek aid of muppets, and then just as they are about to swear their oaths and sign she adds in that King Friday XIII must have no other mistresses, but he tricks her by saying “I do solemnly swear I shall never penetrate another woman” then, for the first time ever, winking at the camera… that wasn’t just the first oral sex I remember on TV but damned good educational programming.
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> At least I think it was _Mr. Rogers_. Anybody else remember these episodes?

Just thought everyone should read it again. It’s wonderful.

And yes, I remember I had to look up _Bemidji AND abdication_.

At first, I was too young to really understand what was going on. Until I found a bunch of older kids who would meet behind the jungle gym to discuss the “Mr. Rogers/Queen Sarah scandals” and explain all the “in-your-windows” [sic].

Got quite an education from THAT storyline, I’ll tell ya.

But when I think back, I wonder if it was too complicated, not to mention _yucky_, for the younger demographic that was most of the viewing audience.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/84 "2010-08-24T00:48:29Z")

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To drag this thread back to the OP, there was another onscreen blowjob on Family Guy earlier this year.

In the episode [Big Man on Hippocampus](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Man_on_Hippocampus), Peter loses his memory and Lois tries to get him to remember what sex is like. She does by kissing his chest, then his stomach, then her head drops out of view (to where Peter’s crotch would be). Then Peter gets a big smile on his face.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/85 "2010-08-24T01:32:11Z")

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L.A. Law had an episode where a technique called the ‘Venus Butterfly’, seemingly about cunnilingus was a major plot point. Hill St. Blues had a post sex scene with a lollipop and some quote that implied fellatio. Saturday Night Live made a variety of references, starting at least in the second season when Jane Curtin took over the newsdesk, and possibly before that. Movies that were broadcast would include Police Academy and The Seduction of Joe Tynan. Shampoo was shredded in its original network showings, but From Russia with Love probably kept the line quoted earlier, it was ambiguous enough to pass censorship.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/86 "2010-08-24T02:24:23Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> To drag this thread back to the OP, there was another onscreen blowjob on Family Guy earlier this year.
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> In the episode [Big Man on Hippocampus](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Man_on_Hippocampus), Peter loses his memory and Lois tries to get him to remember what sex is like. She does by kissing his chest, then his stomach, then her head drops out of view (to where Peter’s crotch would be). Then Peter gets a big smile on his face.

I think Family Guy was also the first program to show a gay eleven-way.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/87 "2010-08-24T02:46:11Z")

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Family Guy also had the parody diamond commercial, with a man and woman in silhouette and the the woman’s figure starts to go down while an announcer says “Diamonds, she’ll pretty much have to …”

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/88 "2010-08-24T11:21:53Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> > I suppose arguably he could have been kissing her tummy, and that’s probably what a lot of embarrassed parents told their curious children that night.
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> How many kids do you think watched _LA Law_ with their parents?

Well, there was me and everybody at my junior high.

–Cliffy

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/89 "2010-08-24T11:30:26Z")

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There was a mid-run episode of NYPD Blue where they arrested a (male) prostitute who would give guys blowjobs in bathroom stalls at Port Authority (or maybe Grand Central). His trick was he carried a large paper shopping bag that he’d kneel in so that, to the casual observer, it just looked like a guy had brought a parcel in the stall with him so nobody stole it.

There was also an episode in the second season of Friends (1995), which revealed that Joey had a (non-sexual) role in a porn movie. So the group watches it – the scene is shot from behind the TV, so you see them watching it but you don’t see what’s on screen. Then there’s this bit of dialogue:

CHANDLER: OK, now wait a minute. That is the craziest typing test I’ve ever seen.

MONICA: All I say is, she better get the job.

ROSS: Looks to me like he’s the one getting the job.

So, not on screen, but clearly implying what’s going on.

–Cliffy

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/90 "2010-08-25T14:20:11Z")

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Much later than other cites, but just to make it clear how common this is on TV:

_Grey’s Anatomy_, middle of season 5, Alex drops down in front of Izzie in an office. With ghost Denny watching (for a little bit).

In addition to the scene in _Seinfeld_ mentioned earlier, there’s an episode where Elaine complains to Jerry that her new boyfriend doesn’t do “everything”.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-oral-sex-scene-on-network-tv/550749/91 "2010-08-25T14:43:06Z")

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In an ep. of Hill Street Blues–not sure of the year or the season, but pretty late in the run–Lt. Hunter is in bed, talking, while a strange slurping sound is going on. Moments later, his English girlfriend comes out from under the sheet and joins in on the conversation. Later on, Hunter is trapped in a basement and forced to cannibalize his dead friend, and this same girlfriend breaks up with him because a previous lover–Polynesian royalty–had likewise eaten human flesh and she didn’t want that to define her relationships. The “eating” motif was dragged out a little, I think.

Another time, Officer Tina Russo is undercover as a patient of a reputedly pervy dentist, who (Am I remembering this correctly?) puts her under with gas and molests her in the mouth while J.D. LaRue videotapes the incident and declines to interfere before the doctor ejaculates.

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