# First promo for "Agents of SHIELD" on ABC **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 13, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246 "2013-05-13T17:54:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/21 "2013-05-14T15:45:44Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I don’t think that’s actually the explanation they’re going to use. I think that that rumor just started as a corruption of what we saw Fury actually do in _The Avengers_. Honestly, it would ten times better than throwing a Life Model Decoy in there because that’s something too big for a TV show. Save that for The Avengers 2. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/22 "2013-05-14T15:50:01Z")
Maybe he got an artificial heart. That could lend some character bits where Caulson is working his was back into action after being sidelined. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/23 "2013-05-14T16:31:29Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Gwen Stacy? [Too Soon](http://io9.com/gwen-stacy-dons-a-most-unfortunate-outfit-on-the-spider-493130808)? Gwen Stacy is often given as an example of somebody who died “for real” in a comic book. But in the actual Spider Man comic book she returned from the dead within two years and has been dead and back a few times since. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/24 "2013-05-14T18:54:30Z")
People used to say that the only comic book characters who would absolutely never, ever come back to life were Uncle Ben and Bucky Barnes. And then Bucky came back. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/25 "2013-05-15T01:09:22Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > It was obvious from the film. I called it in the theater. We see medics running into frame, and then we get a voiceover. > > I don’t see how this is possibly a stretch or plot contortion, this is perfectly in character with what we know about Fury. I agree. I didn’t call it until they said they were bringing Coulson back for the series, then it was perfectly obvious how they could easily bring him back. He got carted off to the infirmary, and Fury used it to motivate the Avengers. We already knew he went and got the Captain America trading cards out of Coulson’s locker and dropped them in blood, so it’s easy to see, and believe, he took the deception one step further. Sure Loki gutted him badly, but it’s a comic-book movie. The kind of death Coulson suffered, and the way it was presented, was just screaming, “He’s not really dead!” If I thought he was a more important character, I’d have seen it right away, but as a supporting role, I didn’t think he warranted the resurrection. Not that I didn’t like the character, but Joss kills people, and he was a better candidate than most. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/26 "2013-05-15T01:25:40Z")
Yep, it’s like the first rule of survival in a Call of Cthulhu campaign: If you don’t have the body, it’s not dead. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/27 "2013-05-15T03:45:10Z")
Here’s a [longer trailer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3T-evQZiQo). ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/28 "2013-05-15T04:06:44Z")
Welcome to Level 7 - that looks good - ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/29 "2013-05-15T05:04:22Z")
It does look good. And with Whedon involved, there’s a decent chance it’ll live up to its promos. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/30 "2013-05-15T05:15:12Z")
This [article](http://screenrant.com/agent-coulson-shield-role-avengers-death-return/) seems to hint that there’s more involved in Coulson’s reappearance than just a faked death. It also describes Ming-Na Wen’s character as a “marital arts expert” which, if it isn’t a typo, should make for some interesting television. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/31 "2013-05-15T14:01:24Z")
“What does that mean to you?” “It means that someone really wanted our initials to spell out ‘shield’.” ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/32 "2013-05-15T14:08:50Z")
I’ve watched this a couple times now and somehow I feel like the supporting cast members acting is just…off. Anyone else getting that? Maybe it’s a lack of familiarity. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/33 "2013-05-15T16:13:07Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > I’ll watch a show featuring Ming Na Wen as anything. Especially if Joss is producing. I really hope the studio gets it this time and doesn’t cancel the show because they don’t understand it. They never “cancel the show because they don’t understand it” (well hardly ever). They do cancel the show because it doesn’t get good ratings. Which is sometimes because the viewers don’t get it or TPTB don’t get it and put it on at a weird slot. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/34 "2013-05-15T17:28:38Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > “What does that mean to you?” > “It means that someone really wanted our initials to spell out ‘shield’.” The name has stood for different things. In the comics, it was originally the Supreme Headquarters, International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division when it was mostly a spy organization. Then it was changed to the Strategic Hazard Intervention Espionage Logistics Directorate when the Cold War ended and it got more involved in dealing primarily with superpowers. And in the movies, it’s been the Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division. So, basically, they wanted the initials to spell SHIELD. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/35 "2013-05-15T17:46:00Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Here’s a [longer trailer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3T-evQZiQo). Awesome, thanks. For some reason I was unable to view the OP link. This trailer looks pretty cool! I am definitely going to watching this series. For my money, Coulson’s non-deadness is great news. Clark Gregg has been impressive, and hopefully his character will continue making cameos in the big-screen offerings. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/36 "2013-05-15T17:53:03Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > I’ll watch a show featuring Ming Na Wen as anything. Especially if Joss is producing. I really hope the studio gets it this time and doesn’t cancel the show because they don’t understand it. Whedon is no longer simply the creator of cult TV shows on minor networks. He’s behind a _giant_ hit movie–that ties in to this series! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/37 "2013-05-15T17:53:05Z")
You can pretty much count on it. In fact, I’d bet that a sub-plot in _Avengers 2_ is how everybody deals with the fact that they were deceived by Fury. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/38 "2013-05-15T18:28:45Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > You can pretty much count on it. In fact, I’d bet that a sub-plot in _Avengers 2_ is how everybody deals with the fact that they were deceived by Fury. I’m more referring to the next _Thor_ and _Captain America_ movies. I was a touch disappointed with the end-credits scene from _Iron Man 3_, as the ones leading up to _The Avengers_, featuring **Agent Coulson** , were fantastic teasers for more astute Marvel fans. I would assume that **Whedon/Marvel/Disney** have some kind of master plan in place for this TV series to tie in, and lead up to _Avengers 2_. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/39 "2013-05-16T16:11:05Z")
[IO9 says that it’s not Luke Cage](http://io9.com/the-surprise-guest-star-on-agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-isnt-507197515). ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246/40 "2013-05-16T16:31:35Z")
There’s a bunch of theories… 1. He’s Miles Morales–the Ultimate Marvel Universe current Spiderman. (if you don’t know comics the Ultimate Marvel is an alternate line of comics). the regular Marvle Universe doesn’t have a Miles yet so this could be their way of introducing an adult version and then introduce him in the comics–similar to how Coulson was created for the movies and then added to the comics. 2. He’s Rage. When introduced he was just an angry black guy who guilted the Avengers into letting him join. They then added a backstory for him–he was a young teenager who was exposed to radioactive slime and developed a superhuman adult body, but was still basically a kid. 3. –and my favorite-- He’s Josiah X. The son of the “black Captain America” from WW2 and inherited his powers. The idea was that after Steve Rogers got the super soldier serum but Dr. Erskine was killed, the government continued to try replicate the serum. One method was a Tuskegee type experiment on black soldiers, there was only one survivor. SHIELD uncovering the government conspiracy around it would make a great arc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-promo-for-agents-of-shield-on-abc/658246.md?page=3)