# First Terminator: Genisys Trailer **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 4, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341 "2014-12-04T19:48:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/21 "2014-12-05T07:27:03Z")
> [@Orr\_G](#): > > The Terminator series has been a frightful mess from the first sequel onwards. Despite the many problems, there have been some very enjoyable moments in each of the sequels, and the sheer brilliance of the original movie has gone a long way to carry the franchise along and place it well within the cultural zeitgeist. Terminator 2: Judgment Day was unadulterated win. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/22 "2014-12-05T07:58:23Z")
Looks like Arnold gets to the copper in this one. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/23 "2014-12-05T09:23:02Z")
Here’s my idea for the next Terminator movie: Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to somehow prevent his divorce from ever happening. A mysterious stranger gives him a time machine and a machine to shrink himself to a microscopic size. He goes back to the time of the conception of the son produced by the affair between himself and his maid/mistress (which caused his divorce) and destroys the sperm that fertilized the egg which produced his illegitimate son in a terrific action sequence consisting of a battle between a tiny Arnold and a sperm. Unfortunately, another sperm fertilizes that egg. The son that is born from it is a super-Schwarzenegger who is so physically and mentally superior that he eventually invents a time machine and a shrinking machine. The mistress hides the birth of this son from Arnold. Having no sexual scandal to stop him, Schwarzenegger eventually becomes the dictator of the world. One day he is visited by a mysterious stranger (the son he doesn’t know about and doesn’t recognize) who gives the two machines to Schwarzenegger, who then goes back in time, etc. The film is called _Fantastic Terminator: All You Schwarzeneggers_. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/24 "2014-12-05T10:40:30Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Looks like Arnold gets to the copper in this one. 😃 Uh, make that ‘chopper’. Cripes. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![AnthonyElite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@AnthonyElite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnthonyElite)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/25 "2014-12-05T13:50:11Z")
> [@AtomicDog](#): > > I LOVED Terminator:Salvation. > > I’ll be at Genysis with a bag of popcorn. I agree- I liked Terminator Salvation. I think somehow people forgot that these were action movies with a science fiction flavor. The new movie looks interesting and it really makes me wish the Sarah Conner Chronicles had never been cancelled. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/26 "2014-12-05T14:48:56Z")
> [@GreedySmurf](#): > > I didn’t think the trailer was that bad. But I am confused. Is this a reboot? A remake? Or something else? Does it fit into the existing continuity? I was joking in my post above but I honestly think they are going the Back to the Future 2 route where essentially this story layers on top of the first movie. It seems a Sarah Conner from the future and a couple of terminators have went back to the time of the first movie and are interacting with these events. At least that is how it looked to me. ---
**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/27 "2014-12-05T15:30:18Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I thought the trailer looked cool. Not amazing, but quite cool. Ditto. I thought it looked like it will be a fun movie. > [@GreedySmurf](#): > > I didn’t think the trailer was that bad. But I am confused. Is this a reboot? A remake? Or something else? Does it fit into the existing continuity? Yeah, it is like a collage of the first four films all in one. There is bound to be something in there for everyone to like. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/28 "2014-12-05T15:39:51Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > **Salvation** was bad, but at least they tried to do something with it other than yet another rehash of the time-travel plot. I even kinda liked the third instalment, but I don’t really feel the need to watch a fourth movie worth of robots chasing people through the streets of LA. Yeah, I really wanted to see the end of the war (although it looks like we might see that here). They always say John is the leader of the resistance, but they’ve never really explained what made him so important that killing him would let Skynet win. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/29 "2014-12-05T16:00:43Z")
Also, it may have been cool in The Dark Knight, but can we stop with the semi/bus/whatever flipping scenes? It’s not some guy on a bike. It’s not going to flip 180 in the air just by hitting something. ---
**Author:** ![phreesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@phreesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phreesh)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/30 "2014-12-05T16:08:24Z")
I’m in the, “This looks cool” camp. I haven’t enjoyed any of them since T2, so I’m hopeful they can bring the series back with this one. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/31 "2014-12-05T16:27:17Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Listen, and understand, Khalisi. That film is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until the franchise is dead! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/32 "2014-12-05T17:29:36Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Also, it may have been cool in The Dark Knight, but can we stop with the semi/bus/whatever flipping scenes? Terminator 3 did it before the Dark Knight. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/33 "2014-12-05T17:53:13Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Terminator 3 did it before the Dark Knight. Not saying DK was first, just that it seems to be a new staple of action movies that needs to die. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/34 "2014-12-05T18:26:00Z")
Interesting with Emilia Clarke as Sarah Connor - considering Lena Headey is also in GoT (though they don’t share any scenes) and played SC in the Sarah Connor Chronicles. (And GRRM produced / wrote for Beauty and the Beast starring Linda Hamilton) Brian ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/35 "2014-12-05T19:18:37Z")
> [@GreedySmurf](#): > > I didn’t think the trailer was that bad. But I am confused. Is this a reboot? A remake? Or something else? Does it fit into the existing continuity? The existing continuity has always been in flux. There have been several other Terminator threads where we discussed this, but each movie seems to involve a slightly different timeline than the original, as modified by the previous movie. I think it’s _awesome_ that they’re playing with the idea that they can go back and rewrite the earlier timeline as well. And it works with the fanwanks about why the later Terminators went back to _later_ rather than earlier. Skynet didn’t want to screw up the changes they’d already made to the timeline, while humanity doesn’t care. Of course, that’s no guarantee that they won’t fuck it up. But I’m cautiously optimistic. Whoever cut the trailer understands why the first two movies were awesome and why the second two were less so. The liquid metal terminator is back (with new tricks), the shot-for-shot duplication of Reese’s arrival into the twist that Sarah Connor is the badass. I kinda wish that I hadn’t seen the trailer since it spoiled the awesome twist. I am hereby resolved to never watch a Terminator trailer again, since the T2 trailer also ruined the twist that would be much better to experience firsthand. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/36 "2014-12-05T19:26:39Z")
> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#): > > The existing continuity has always been in flux. Which it would have to be. Otherwise there wouldn’t need to be all that running around. Sarah could just sit on the couch and wait for fate to take out the Terminator before it kills her. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/37 "2014-12-05T21:35:33Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I was joking in my post above but I honestly think they are going the Back to the Future 2 route where essentially this story layers on top of the first movie. It seems a Sarah Conner from the future and a couple of terminators have went back to the time of the first movie and are interacting with these events. At least that is how it looked to me. There’s an exchange in the trailer about Reese being surprised that Sarah isn’t weak and helpless and Sarah saying that that timeline doesn’t exist anymore and therefore they can stop Judgement Day altogether. It looks like based on the trailer a T-800 goes back in time even further and takes care of/trains Sarah Connor. We have old Arnold being around in the '84 time, there’s a shot of presumably Arnie carrying a young girl away from a cabin (Sarah’s parents were in Big Bear in the original so perhaps she was from there too and that’s a woodsy area). I LIKE the idea of a BTTF2 style sequel–it could explain why it takes the first Terminator a day to go to Big Bear-kill the Connors and then come back to LA when the most it would take is half a day. ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/38 "2014-12-05T23:29:11Z")
> [@GreedySmurf](#): > > I didn’t think the trailer was that bad. But I am confused. Is this a reboot? A remake? Or something else? Does it fit into the existing continuity? As I understand it, it fits into the existing continuity, but features alternate universes - so … all the rules are out. It’s a re-telling of the timeline in the first movie (Kyle Reese gets sent back to protect Sarah Connor) except that in this one, Sarah Connor was raised by the T-800 (Arnold). ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/39 "2014-12-06T01:23:51Z")
Jai Courtney as Kyle Reese is completely inappropriate. I would’ve preferred someone scrawny and a closer match to Michael Biehn, like Aaron Paul. In every other respect, I’m with **iamthewalrus(:3=**, in that this looks like they figured out a great way to realign continuity blips, and they seem to be doing it right. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341/40 "2014-12-06T03:33:38Z")
So when we discussed it in [the other thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=739025), I thought the plot sounded terrible, but at least they got a good actress for the lead. Seeing the trailer, I flipped completely around. Emilia Clarke seems awful as Sarah (that line about taking care of the 1st Terminator was a cringeworthy delivery ☹ ) but the movie looks pretty awesome. The plot sounded way cornier in synopsis, but seeing elements of it in the trailer reminds me of TSCC, in a good way. a time-travel reboot fits perfectly in the Terminator feel. That’s what it’s always been about, why not embrace it? I’ll definitely be looking forward to this one now. (But I hope they change the dumb name, and prehaps find a better take for Sarah’s lines in the final edit than in the trailer) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-terminator-genisys-trailer/706341.md?page=3)