# First the truthers, then the birthers, now the third termers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 27, 2012, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221 "2012-11-27T00:22:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/21 "2012-11-27T11:46:04Z")
Trust me, when he gets that third term, he’s going to take all your guns away. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/22 "2012-11-27T12:17:52Z")
When Obama’s body dies, his head will be kept alive in a jar in accordance with the secret protocols of Obamacare, and he will serve a third term in a thousand years time, having finally qualified for citizenship through residency. What? ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/23 "2012-11-27T12:31:35Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Trust me, when he gets that third term, he’s going to take all your guns away. Would he do that before or after all the Republicans are sent away for re-education? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/24 "2012-11-27T14:16:12Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > When Obama’s body dies, his head will be kept alive in a jar in accordance with the secret protocols of Obamacare, and he will serve a third term in a thousand years time, having finally qualified for citizenship through residency. > > What? Nixon’s head might have something to say about that, that’s what! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/25 "2012-11-27T14:19:04Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Nixon’s head might have something to say about that, that’s what! I hear Kennedy’s good with it. Says he need more intellectual stimulation. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/26 "2012-11-27T14:20:03Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > We had another thread about this earlier. Yep. [Active until exactly 2 weeks ago.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=672136) ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/27 "2012-11-27T15:12:29Z")
> [@thirdwarning](#): > > Part of the backup for this is that ‘he’s already made 60 laws that are unconstitutional, so he wouldn’t have a problem going against the constitution for this, too’ > When I mentioned that a law (which he can’t actually pass by himself) is a bit different from an amendment, that was the end of the conversation. HE made the laws? So he dissolved Congress and is ruling by decree now? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/28 "2012-11-27T15:26:53Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > HE made the laws? So he dissolved Congress and is ruling by decree now? Yeah, that’s what all those “czars” were for. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/29 "2012-11-27T15:34:29Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Oh, that’s too easy. A plot consists of more than one person acting with a shared goal. Of course that’s also the definition of “conspiracy” that people use when they’re trying to explain that if two companies can collude on the price of snack foods, the moon landing might have been faked. > [@](#): > > Ok, so it’s a threat of impeachment, not impeachment itself. And the bill didn’t go anywhere, even in the House. > [@](#): > > I see that Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich have joined forces on this one, such as they are. Another thing they have in common: they’re both out of Congress in January. Anyway I think we are agreed that impeachment doesn’t seem likely. (I remember saying in February that I could imagine it happening but it doesn’t look that way right now.) But unless you’re suggesting some broader nefarious plot to drum up charges or public support or Senate votes, it’s not a conspiracy theory. Of course it still doesn’t make much sense. Even the nuttiest Republicans know it wouldn’t work and would only make Biden president even if it miraculously did. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/30 "2012-11-27T15:37:28Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > nah, we had the same furor at the start of W’s 2nd term. With Clinton’s second term, too. I wasn’t old enough to pay attention to politics in 1984, were people afraid of Reagan serving a third term? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/31 "2012-11-27T16:05:20Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Ok, so it’s a threat of impeachment, not impeachment itself. I see that Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich have joined forces on this one, such as they are. Still: it’s a plot, though I suspect bumper sticker sales are pretty high on the agenda. I can’t google-fu a cite but I seem to remember a list where there have been many cases of a few Representatives getting indignant and making motions of impeachment that go nowhere. The only three that got traction i.e. seriously considered in committee were against Johnson, Nixon and Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/32 "2012-11-27T16:36:27Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Anyway I think we are agreed that impeachment doesn’t seem likely. (I remember saying in February that I could imagine it happening but it doesn’t look that way right now.) I concur. If the House did not impeach Eric Holder by being blown off by the AG after his contempt vote (thereby committing a crime) and the ever popular Fast and Furious fiasco then there is no way they would impeach Obama. ---
**Author:** ![BlueOhio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/439d5e/32.png) [@BlueOhio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueOhio)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/33 "2012-11-27T16:44:44Z")
"With Clinton’s second term, too. I wasn’t old enough to pay attention to politics in 1984, were people afraid of Reagan serving a third term? " Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/34 "2012-11-27T16:49:02Z")
Pro-Obama: serving a third term… Con-Obama: impeachment… I think those cancel each other out. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/35 "2012-11-27T16:54:39Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > I concur. If the House did not impeach Eric Holder by being blown off by the AG after his contempt vote (thereby committing a crime) and the ever popular Fast and Furious fiasco then there is no way they would impeach Obama. That was also an arguably more legitimate scandal then Benghazi. This claim sort of fails to acknowledge the way the situation has changed: until November you could argue they hoped Obama would lose and be gone in January. But then again if you believe that, you’re sort of suggesting House Republicans held something back in their attacks on Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/36 "2012-11-27T17:05:56Z")
Yeah, this seems like just more of the same we get all the time. I’m pretty sure that there were people on this board fearing Bush 43 having a third term, and I personally knew a few in real life. Also as mentioned, there was this same sort of conspiracy thought after Clinton and Reagan were reelected. I imagine that “fear” goes back quite a bit farther too. For that matter, I remember impeachment of Bush talk as well as the no impeachment of Obama talk. Thus, at least for the foreseeable future, I expect that, thanks to the Clinton impeachment, regardless of party affiliation, there will always be talk from the sitting president’s party that the opposite party will attempt impeachment. And, similarly, ff a president should be reelected, there will also be conspiracy talk of him serving a third term and/or becoming a dictator. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/37 "2012-11-27T17:15:58Z")
> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > With Clinton’s second term, too. I wasn’t old enough to pay attention to politics in 1984, were people afraid of Reagan serving a third term? I do recall Reagan appearing in 1988 before a crowd of Young Republicans chanting “Four More Years!” (By this time Reagan was senile, which his running for a third term, or continuing in office past 1988, would have made impossible to hide.) ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/38 "2012-11-27T17:18:44Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I do recall Reagan appearing in 1988 before a crowd of Young Republicans chanting “Four More Years!” Who was doing the chanting, Reagan or the crowd? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/39 "2012-11-27T17:20:51Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > Pro-Obama: serving a third term… > > Con-Obama: impeachment… > > I think those cancel each other out. In the sense that zero cancels out zero leaving zero. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221/40 "2012-11-27T19:47:46Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Oh, that’s too easy. A plot consists of more than one person acting with a shared goal. My search engine gave me this wnd link: [Obama impeachment bill now in Congress \* WorldNetDaily \* by Drew Zahn](http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/obama-impeachment-bill-now-in-congress/) H. Con. Res. 107: [http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-hc107/show](http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-hc107/show) > > Co-sponsors: > > ``` > Rep. Dan Benishek [R, MI-1] > Added May 17, 2012 > Rep. Mo Brooks [R, AL-5] > Added September 21, 2012 > Rep. Dan Burton [R, IN-5] > Added April 18, 2012 > Rep. Mike Coffman [R, CO-6] > Added April 18, 2012 > Rep. John Duncan [R, TN-2] > Added March 22, 2012 > Rep. Louis Gohmert [R, TX-1] > Added May 17, 2012 > Rep. Raul Grijalva [D, AZ-7] > Added May 10, 2012 > Wthdrawn May 16, 2012 > Rep. Dennis Kucinich [D, OH-10] > Added September 10, 2012 > Rep. Tom McClintock [R, CA-4] > Added March 28, 2012 > Rep. Michael Michaud [D, ME-2] > Added July 25, 2012 > Rep. Ronald Paul [R, TX-14] > Added July 12, 2012 > Rep. Reid Ribble [R, WI-8] > Added April 27, 2012 > Rep. Lynn Woolsey [D, CA-6] > Added September 14, 2012 > > ``` > > Ok, so it’s a threat of impeachment, not impeachment itself. I see that Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich have joined forces on this one, such as they are. Still: it’s a plot, though I suspect bumper sticker sales are pretty high on the agenda. Yea, but all their constituents are either fleeing for Canada and Norway or trying to seceed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-the-truthers-then-the-birthers-now-the-third-termers/642221.md?page=3)