# First time gun owner. The Liberal Gun Club is tiny. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 7, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404 "2016-04-07T02:15:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/101 "2016-04-17T13:23:14Z")
Add me to the list of CZ fans. I have an 85 Combat and a smaller P-01. I put a Crimson Trace laser on the P-01, and keep it in a handgun safe under my bed. I also have a CZ .22 rifle. And add me to those who aren’t impressed with Glocks. I don’t like the triggers on the ones I’ve tried. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/102 "2016-04-17T13:26:58Z")
I recently bought a [Beretta PX4 subcompact.](http://www.beretta.com/en-us/px4-storm-subcompact/) I bought it because I love my full size Beretta 92F and the PX4 has the same setup in a much more compact size. I’ve shot about a hundred rounds through it and I’m very happy with it. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2016, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/103 "2016-04-17T13:33:36Z")
The most uber liberals in my friends set are gun owners - its hilarious to watch two Birkenstock wearing sometimes vegetarians head out to hunt grouse. Minnesota - its a lot like Portland. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/104 "2016-04-17T14:51:01Z")
See, I think there are plenty of liberal/leftist/whatever gun owners (in the USA). But they mostly keep quiet and defer to the right-wingers, in settings organized around guns rather than politics. > [@jz78817](#): > > I usually refrain from discussing my ownership of firearms because I don’t want people assuming Wayne LaPierre speaks for me. People in both sets will continue to make incorrect assumptions, as long as non-rightist gun owners keep refraining. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/105 "2016-04-17T15:34:26Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > I recently bought a [Beretta PX4 subcompact.](http://www.beretta.com/en-us/px4-storm-subcompact/) I bought it because I love my full size Beretta 92F and the PX4 has the same setup in a much more compact size. I’ve shot about a hundred rounds through it and I’m very happy with it. I have one of those. Sweet gun, though I did have to drift the rear sight a bit on mine to make it shoot to point of aim. Wish someone would produce a set of adjustable sights for it. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/106 "2016-04-17T15:51:38Z")
I’ve got three Springfield XD series. Two in 40 and one in 9mm. Good value and they shoot well for me. Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/107 "2016-04-18T04:38:35Z")
I shouldn’t run down Glocks or Glock owners, the majority of which are just regular folks like anyone else; and in fairness to Glock, their engineers have built a tough, solidly reliable gun, and their service, sales, and marketing departments have done a superlative job of getting the word out to military and law enforcement. Like **Martini Enfield** noted, Glocks have all the aesthetic appeal of a black brick. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, if the gun functions as designed under a wide variety of adverse conditions, which Glocks notably do. Like most groups of any kind, it’s a very small minority that ruin it for everyone else. And again, in all fairness, Glock fanboys are no worse than the old 1911 .45ACP codgers grumbling about “plastic Euro-9 pea-shooters” or “tupperware guns.” ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/108 "2016-04-18T04:40:08Z")
> [@GaryM](#): > > I’ve got three Springfield XD series. Two in 40 and one in 9mm. Good value and they shoot well for me. > > Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk I’ve handled XDs in gun stores, and they “fit” me as well as my Walthers; I should probably try one out at a range just to see how well they shoot for me, so I can see if I need to add yet another brand to my stable. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/109 "2016-04-18T15:37:55Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > Like most groups of any kind, it’s a very small minority that ruin it for everyone else. And again, in all fairness, Glock fanboys are no worse than the old 1911 .45ACP codgers grumbling about “plastic Euro-9 pea-shooters” or “tupperware guns.” Or us ancient dinosaurs who still insist “at least my revolver won’t jam”. Yeah — I’m one of “those”. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/110 "2016-04-18T16:09:24Z")
> [@kopek](#): > > Or us ancient dinosaurs who still insist “at least my revolver won’t jam”. Yeah — I’m one of “those”. :smack: Plus, they have the personality that so many find that Glocks and such lack. Tell me that [this gun](http://www.ruger.com/products/vaqueroBisley/images/5130.jpg) is blah. Or [this one](http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Bladeswitcher/sw686b.jpg). Or t[his one](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/51/4b/c4/514bc427bf0fc4b41e22248a5d22719b.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/111 "2016-04-18T18:24:58Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Plus, they have the personality that so many find that Glocks and such lack. Tell me that [this gun](http://www.ruger.com/products/vaqueroBisley/images/5130.jpg) is blah. Or [this one](http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Bladeswitcher/sw686b.jpg). Or t[his one](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/51/4b/c4/514bc427bf0fc4b41e22248a5d22719b.jpg). Oh, Oh, I had a S/W Model 66 full stainless from soon after they came out. I lost all my weapons in a robbery in 1986. I still get pissed when I think about. I never have had the $$$ to replace any of them except for a Remington Nylon 66 .22… Most import was a S/W K .22 5 screw which I was told were kind of rare. Mine as a B day present when I was 14, my first pistol of my own. Grrrr… ( damn all pissed again just thinking about it. ) ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/112 "2016-04-18T18:51:32Z")
Another liberal gun owner checking in. My husband got interested in guns after a trip to Alaska a couple of years ago. I don’t find them particularly fascinating but I got my concealed carry license and carry my Ruger about half the time. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/113 "2016-04-18T23:57:38Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Plus, they have the personality that so many find that Glocks and such lack. Tell me that [this gun](http://www.ruger.com/products/vaqueroBisley/images/5130.jpg) is blah. Or [this one](http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d196/Bladeswitcher/sw686b.jpg). Or t[his one](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/51/4b/c4/514bc427bf0fc4b41e22248a5d22719b.jpg). Even my 49 has a certain ---- look? Mine is set up like this: [![](https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2012/09/19/570720_02_smith_wesson_model_49_bodyguar_640.jpg) ](https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2012/09/19/570720_02_smith_wesson_model_49_bodyguar_640.jpg) But then again autos DO have the Luger which IMHO is the classiest and sexiest firearm ever made. I have both .30 and 9mm and both normal and arty and while I haven’t packed one as a serious sidearm in ages ------- they are just frikkin cool! ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404/114 "2016-04-19T10:01:20Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Plus, they have the personality that so many find that Glocks and such lack. Tell me that [this gun](http://www.ruger.com/products/vaqueroBisley/images/5130.jpg) is blah. That gun is blah. 😛 Having said that, I’m not a huge fan of the Colt Peacemaker design. However, Ladies and Gentlemen, [this is a proper revolver](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webley_Revolver#/media/File:Webley_IMG_6789.jpg). 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-time-gun-owner-the-liberal-gun-club-is-tiny/751404.md?page=5)