# First trailer for "Sully"--Miracle on the Hudson movie **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 30, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782 "2016-06-30T14:40:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/81 "2016-07-06T21:55:16Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Really, the name is “Sully”? Just… Sully? He’s happy not to be called Chesley. ---
**Author:** ![ssgenius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@ssgenius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ssgenius)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/82 "2016-07-06T22:32:27Z")
When I was reading the accident report for this, I was amazed at what these pilots and crew go through. Before the accident, Sully was living in San Francisco. The rest of this comes from the report "On January 12, the captain began a 4-day trip sequence with the first officer. He stated that they departed CLT (Charlotte, NC) at 1806 and arrived at San Francisco International Airport (SFO), San Francisco, California, at 2119 PST.17 He stated that he spent the evening at home and that he went to sleep about 2300 PST. On January 13, the captain awoke about 0700 PST and ate breakfast. He stated that he left his house about 1100 PST and arrived at SFO about 1220 PST. The flight departed SFO about 1315 PST and arrived at PIT about 2100. The captain stated that the total layover time in Pittsburgh was about 10 hours. He added that he did not recall what time he went to bed. On January 14, the captain awoke about 0510 and ate breakfast. He stated that the quality of his sleep the previous night was good or average and that, although he did not get 8 hours of sleep, he was “ok” and felt “normal.” The flight crew flew from PIT to LGA and then back to PIT. The captain stated that the total layover time in Pittsburgh was long. He added that he went for a walk around town, ate dinner, answered some e-mails, and went to bed about 2200. On January 15, the captain awoke about 0640. He stated that the quality of his sleep the previous night was good and that he felt rested. The captain ate breakfast at PIT. The captain’s first flight departed PIT at 0856 and arrived at CLT at 1055, at which point the flight crew changed to the accident airplane. The captain stated that he did not get anything to eat in CLT. The flight departed CLT at 1154 and arrived at LGA at 1423. The captain stated that, because they had a quick turnaround at LGA, he purchased a sandwich to eat on the airplane after departure." (Apparently, the sandwich was not either chicken or fish (or Lasagna) Thus, in the 4 days before the plane accident Sully went from Charlotte, North Caroline - San Francisco, California (Across the country once) San Francisco - Pittsburgh Pittsburgh - New York- Pittsburgh (Across the country a second time + even more) Pittsburgh - Charlotte - New York (roughly 1/2 way across the country) Then on the crashed flight, they were scheduled to go back to Charlotte (which would have been roughly 1/2 way across the country again) Thus, in 4 days, Sully would have done the equivalent of crossing the country (East to West or West to East) 3 times in 4 days.:eek: That seems like a lot of travel for one person in only 4 days but from what I have been told is that is not unusual for many pilots in the industry as once you refuse more than a few flights (for whatever reason), you get put lower on the priority list and get less flights in or get bumped down to the smaller regional carriers. The other thing that surprised me is that there was only 5 crew members on the plane. (2 pilots and 3 flight attendants) for 150 passengers. (roughly a 1:30 ratio) Also, the ages of the pilots were 57 (Sully) and 49 (first officer) The three flight attendants were 58, 57, and 51 meaning that the youngest crew member was 49 years old. The nearest comparison that I can make is the cruise industry. A cruise ship will typically have about one support person for every 2 passengers or so. (roughly 1000 crew for 2000 passengers) Granted, I am not comparing apples to apples as cruise ships have to offer more amenities which require does require to having more staff but the difference in staffing is remarkable. However, this may explain why Sully (who is one of the more respected pilots) mentioned that he would NOT enter the aviation industry currently. I probably babbled on too long s ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/83 "2016-07-06T23:03:37Z")
The idea of making this a movie about one man is ridiculous and a little offensive. I have nothing but admiration for Captain Sullenberger, he made good decisions under difficult circumstances and should be commended for it, but please. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/84 "2016-07-06T23:13:30Z")
Maybe they’re already working on the sequel, “Jeff”. [the bystander who jumped into the freezing water to save a drowning passenger; don’t actually know his name]. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/85 "2016-07-07T01:22:20Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > …and back to the investigators. “When was your last drink, Captain Sullenberger?” > > (“Have you had any troubles at home?”) …“And do you happen to cohabit with a large flock of Canada geese?” ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/86 "2016-07-07T02:13:09Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Because all the other flight crews whose stars did not align that day went into a panic frenzy. Nah… If those other guys had landed a plane on a river with no one seriously hurt, they’d be making a movie about them, too. Sully himself says he only did what he was trained to do. I don’t think he is unique; there are other pilots that could have done the same thing. But the whole thing makes for a good story and Sully’s background is a part of that. ---
**Author:** ![cardinal\_fang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal_fang/32/15316_2.png) [@cardinal\_fang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cardinal_fang)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/87 "2016-07-07T02:47:48Z")
> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#): > > I want a version from the geese’s perspective. Here we have flock of geese just flying as evolution has intended when, suddenly, these featherless motherfuckers with their screaming death machines crash into them killing dozens. Hey assholes, stay on the ground where you belong, dammit! You need to tune in to the [right channel](http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e290/belowmda/harold-meeker.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/88 "2016-07-07T23:24:25Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Maybe they’re already working on the sequel, “Jeff”. > > [the bystander who jumped into the freezing water to save a drowning passenger; don’t actually know his name]. The co-pilot’s name is Jeffrey Skiles. > **[US Airways Flight 1549](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549)** > > US Airways Flight 1549 was a regularly scheduled US Airways flight from New York City's LaGuardia Airport to Charlotte and Seattle, in the United States. On January 15, 2009, the Airbus A320 serving the flight struck a flock of birds shortly after takeoff from LaGuardia, losing all engine power. Given their position in relation to the available airports and their low altitude, pilots Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger and Jeffrey Skiles decided to glide the plane to ditching on the Hudson River near... He’s on an episode of “American Pickers”; they’re at a barn full of airplane memorabilia, and he says, “I’m famous.” They ask him why (of course you know it’s all a setup, but anyway) and he says, “Chesley Sullenberger wasn’t the only pilot in the cockpit on that day.” As for having so few flight attendants, maybe it was because it was a relatively short flight and they didn’t anticipate needing any extra help? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/89 "2016-07-07T23:25:31Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > No human fatalities, but there were several injuries, one of them fairly serious (IIRC, a flight attendant had a cut on her thigh that went all the way to the bone, and had some long-term nerve damage). p.s. I said “human” because it’s not unlikely that there were animals that drowned in the cargo hold. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/90 "2016-07-08T00:32:27Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > As for having so few flight attendants, maybe it was because it was a relatively short flight and they didn’t anticipate needing any extra help? [Code of Federal Regulations](http://rgl.faa.gov/regulatory_and_guidance_library/rgfar.nsf/farsbysectlookup/121.391) Part 121 OPERATING REQUIREMENTS: DOMESTIC, FLAG, AND SUPPLEMENTAL OPERATIONS > [@](#): > > Subpart M–Airman and Crewmember Requirements > > Sec. 121.391 Flight attendants. > > [(a) Except as specified in Sec. 121.393 and Sec. 121.394, each certificate holder must provide at least the following flight attendants on board each passenger-carrying airplane when passengers are on board:] > > ``` > [...] > > (4) For airplanes having a seating capacity of more than 100 passengers--two flight attendants plus one additional flight attendant for each unit (or part of a unit) of 50 passenger seats above a seating capacity of 100 passengers. > > ``` A320-214 aircraft N106US was configured for exactly 150 passenger seats (12F, 138Y). Thus, 3 flight attendants required. There were 149 occupied seats plus one lap-held infant. ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/91 "2016-07-10T21:03:00Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > p.s. I said “human” because it’s not unlikely that there were animals that drowned in the cargo hold. ☹ The airline told the NY Times that there were no live animals on the flight and they don’t carry pets in the cargo hold. [http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/17/nyregion/17scene.html?\_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/17/nyregion/17scene.html?_r=0) ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/92 "2016-07-11T02:21:59Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I saw the whole thing already on _ **Mayday!** _ (aka _ **Air Crash Investigation** _). Took 45 minutes. 🆒 Not to derail but…did you see the one about the guy who landed on some kind of enbankment when he thought he was going to have to put the plane in a canal? (I may be misremembering a bit). I love the ones where everything works out. They’re so rare. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/93 "2016-07-11T02:29:34Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > My worry is that any movie with Tom Hanks in it as a captain will be full of made-up incidents. _Captain Phillips_ was, according to the other crew members of the ship, very inaccurate. It was, however, an outstanding movie, and Hanks’s performance was magnificent. I don’t understand how casting Tom Hanks, one of the greatest actors in the history of cinema, is a bad move. Who would be significantly better in the role? ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/94 "2016-07-11T02:30:22Z")
> [@Clark\_Cello](#): > > Thumbs up for “Must Go In the Hudson”. The ABC Movie of the Week presents, “Flight 1549, Where Are You?”…With Buddy Ebsen, Christopher George, and George Gobels. (Cue [Nikki](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM-Vkd7On2Q)) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/95 "2016-07-11T02:39:18Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I don’t understand how casting Tom Hanks, one of the greatest actors in the history of cinema, is a bad move. Who would be significantly better in the role? “Hundreds of people died today helping Daniel Day-Lewis get into character…” ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/96 "2016-07-11T02:45:36Z")
My problem is that Tom Hanks plays a certain sort of hero (_Captain Phillip_s, _The Terminal_, _Cast Away_, _You’ve Got Mail_, _Saving Private Ryan_, _Apollo 13_, _Forrest Gump_, _Philadelphia_, _Sleepless in Seattle_, _Joe Versus the Volcano_, _Big_, _Splash_, etc.) that’s a little too stereotyped for my taste. And, no, I’m not going to expand on that comment. If you disagree with me, fine, then you disagree with me. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/97 "2016-07-11T02:57:40Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > My problem is that Tom Hanks plays a certain sort of hero (_Captain Phillip_s, _The Terminal_, _Cast Away_, _You’ve Got Mail_, _Saving Private Ryan_, _Apollo 13_, _Forrest Gump_, _Philadelphia_, _Sleepless in Seattle_, _Joe Versus the Volcano_, _Big_, _Splash_, etc.) that’s a little too stereotyped for my taste. And, no, I’m not going to expand on that comment. If you disagree with me, fine, then you disagree with me. Uhhh,“Joe Versus the Volcano” and “Big” don’t fit there, ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/98 "2016-07-11T02:58:18Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > They should have the copilot’s name be “Mike Wazowski”. “You know, Sully… the cockpit door… it Only Works… if you have every single piece…” “Boo…?” ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/99 "2016-07-11T18:13:05Z")
It’s worth noting thar Sullenberger, on his own initiative, spent extra hours in the simulator rehearsing emergency landings during engine failure. It’s not a story of luck; this was a man who had thoughtfully prepared for even unlikely eventualities. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-trailer-for-sully-miracle-on-the-hudson-movie/758782/100 "2016-07-11T18:30:54Z")
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