# First TV show to be cancelled after 9/25/2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 25, 2014, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517 "2014-09-25T13:09:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/121 "2014-10-24T23:19:08Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > Maybe the TV execs do actually monitor things like this website for real reactions to their offerings. If so, they see that jumping the gun on a potential hit by zapping it early is giving them bad publicity for their stupidity. [clears throat] “To get good publicity and a sure hit, put Cristin Milioti in a bikini for every episode.” [/clears throat] ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/122 "2014-10-24T23:23:22Z")
And if you like Karen Gillan in slutty clothes, it has that in spades! But really, she’s the only reason I watched it the first time because the ads made it look like the diametrical opposite of what I’d like, but now I watch it because I like the other people, too. Especially David Harewood, who you may know from dramas like _Homeland,_ but who makes a terrific lunatic boss. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/123 "2014-10-25T00:46:06Z")
Selfie is way better than it should be. I don’t know if it’s doing well enough to avoid cancellation, make it to syndication, but it’s not a waste of 20 minutes to watch ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/124 "2014-10-25T02:26:10Z")
We may have blood in the water: [https://tv.yahoo.com/photos/2014-shows-in-trouble-slideshow/](https://tv.yahoo.com/photos/2014-shows-in-trouble-slideshow/) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/125 "2014-10-25T08:37:39Z")
More than blood in the water, we have a [full-blown death](http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/10/24/manhattan-love-story-canceled-by-abc/). Seems a few of you had it, but no one was confident enough to make it their first pick. For people who don’t want to click links: _Manhattan Love Story_ was cancelled by ABC ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/126 "2014-10-25T14:09:52Z")
Unless I missed an earlier mention it would appear that Post #12 had the right answer. Well played, **DrDeth**! ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/127 "2014-10-25T16:35:13Z")
It’s not just the dearth of cancellations that’s amazing, the networks are ordering full seasons (or at least 13 episodes) of just about all their shows. So we’re going to be stuck a while with just about all the candidates mentioned so far. One explanation is that they just don’t have anything in the slush pile that has a chance. ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/128 "2014-10-25T21:23:47Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > More than blood in the water, we have a [full-blown death](http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/10/24/manhattan-love-story-canceled-by-abc/). Seems a few of you had it, but no one was confident enough to make it their first pick. > > For people who don’t want to click links: > > _Manhattan Love Story_ was cancelled by ABC Good. I’m glad. Just because the title enrages me, I’m that shallow. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/129 "2014-10-26T01:52:35Z")
[https://tv.yahoo.com/photos/2014-shows-in-trouble-slideshow/](https://tv.yahoo.com/photos/2014-shows-in-trouble-slideshow/) Mulaney (Fox) A to Z (NBC) Red Band Society (Fox) Selfie (ABC) Utopia (Fox)\Madam Secretary (CBS) Gracepoint (Fox) Forever (ABC) Bad Judge (NBC) ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/130 "2014-10-27T19:18:38Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > It’s not just the dearth of cancellations that’s amazing, the networks are ordering full seasons (or at least 13 episodes) of just about all their shows. So we’re going to be stuck a while with just about all the candidates mentioned so far. > > One explanation is that they just don’t have anything in the slush pile that has a chance. If you don’t have anything but turds to choose from, then the best you can do is to pick the ones that stink the least. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/131 "2014-10-27T19:34:18Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > Unless I missed an earlier mention it would appear that Post #12 had the right answer. > > Well played, **DrDeth**! Yes, thanks- but it wasnt my first pick. I guess no one cared enuf about it either hope it died or watch it. ---
**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/132 "2014-10-27T19:38:39Z")
Still, **DrDeth** _rocks!_ ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2014, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/133 "2014-11-01T15:05:22Z")
_A to Z_ and _Bad Judge_ have been “canceled” by [NBC](http://www.people.com/article/nbc-cancels-axes-bad-judge-a-to-z-kate-walsh-cristin-milioti). I.e., they will continue to make and air the current order of 13 episodes but that will be it for the shows. _Bad Judge_’s ratings Thursday night were almost invisible against CBS’s restored post-football comedy lineup. Again, continuing to produce and air these shows demonstrates how thin the pile of replacement shows is. I nominate [The McCarthys](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17864681&postcount=53) for a show that is not long for this world. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2014, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/134 "2014-11-01T17:30:41Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > _A to Z_ and _Bad Judge_ have been “canceled” by [NBC](http://www.people.com/article/nbc-cancels-axes-bad-judge-a-to-z-kate-walsh-cristin-milioti). I.e., they will continue to make and air the current order of 13 episodes but that will be it for the shows. Fox did the same thing with _Mulaney_ - the order was for 16 episodes, but production was halted prior to work starting on the 14th; however, the show wasn’t pulled from the schedule, and will even air in November sweeps. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/135 "2014-11-02T00:34:38Z")
That’s too bad about A to Z. It wasn’t my favorite show ever, but the leads were adorable and it was entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/136 "2014-11-02T02:01:26Z")
The more I saw of _Manhattan Love Story_ the better I liked it. Just as with _A to Z_ there was an really cute leading lady who’s hopeless at love, trying to hook up with a hunk. In both cases it was hard to see why no one ever dated them earlier, unlike in _Selfie_, which has an truly annoying character - but I like that show too. I think these three shows were too much alike, too urban and with leads who were too impossibly cute for us to be able to invest in emotionally. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/137 "2014-11-02T15:31:29Z")
I’ve been thinking about this “keep making the rest of the batch and air them anyway” deal that’s going on. Is it conceivable, at least in the minuscule mind of a network exec, that they are going to make some of their money back via streaming of the show in later years, like an actual popular show? And having more than a handful of episodes helps rather than hurts? How many people are going to want to order all 13 episodes of _Bad Judge_ from Amazon or Netflix? (Surprisingly, some canceled shows finish their full run overseas. E.g., the remaining canned episodes of the horrible US version of _Coupling_ were aired in several markets. Do we really want to inflict these shows on Mexico and Poland?) ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/138 "2014-11-02T15:50:05Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > That’s too bad about A to Z. It wasn’t my favorite show ever, but the leads were adorable and it was entertaining. Agreed! I liked it. As far as the question of why they are letting these shows play out their 13 episodes: mainly because canceling and replacing them now would doom the replacement to failure. Better to wait until mid season and unveil a new schedule. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/139 "2014-11-03T06:10:41Z")
Utopia is done for. > **[Fox Pulls Plug on ‘Utopia’](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/fox-pulls-plug-utopia-745640/)** > > The network yanks the ambitious reality show after two months on the air And yes, I think networks are definitely looking to streaming sites to give them at least a partial return on their investment for some of these canceled shows. A 13-episode first and only season can be resold at a later date. Five episodes and dangling plots cannot. Honestly, I’m surprised it took them this long to figure it out after the big sales of Firefly and Wonderfalls on DVD. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517/140 "2014-11-03T13:43:01Z")
Hey, now Bri can tell herself she was the linchpin holding the series on the air. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-tv-show-to-be-cancelled-after-9-25-2014/699517.md?page=8)