# First, Vegemite.  Then, Marmite.  Now, BOVRIL!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 22, 2005, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381 "2005-10-22T02:52:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/1 "2005-10-22T02:52:28Z")

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First I discovered [Vegemite](http://about-australia-shop.com/images/static-vegemite001.jpg), and it was good. Damned good!

Then I found [Marmite](http://www.nexternal.com/vegane/images/MarmiteLg.jpg), and it got even better!

But now, I have discovered [Bovril](http://www.westonsinternet.co.uk/images/bov26j.jpg), and my delight knows no bounds!! The perfect spread for when Vegemite and Marmite are just _not_ beefy or salty enough! Deep brown like Soy Sauce, it flows like honey, and tastes for all the world like a Kobe Beef cow has been rendered into a fine syrup just for my pleasure!

Have my fellow yeast-extract lovers indulged in this epicurian delight? Got any recipes to share?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/2 "2005-10-22T02:58:39Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> …when Vegemite and Marmite are just _not_…salty enough!

:eek:

The words…I know what each individual one means, but I don’t understand how they go together…

Is this some kind of bland Midwestern food backlash, Doc?

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/3 "2005-10-22T03:02:23Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Is this some kind of bland Midwestern food backlash, Doc?

I’m always searching for the perfect accompaniment to 10 year old cheddar, and that fermented treat known as summer sausage, **jayjay**.

A new pleasure! A new pleasure!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/4 "2005-10-22T03:05:21Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> I’m always searching for the perfect accompaniment to 10 year old cheddar, and that fermented treat known as summer sausage, **jayjay**.
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> A new pleasure! A new pleasure!

_sigh_ I’d just settle for the 10-year cheddar…

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**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/5 "2005-10-22T03:15:18Z")

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I’ll side with **jayjay**. Cheese please, no odd yeast hangers on.

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**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/6 "2005-10-22T03:56:29Z")

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Here’s an informative marmite site: [http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/marmite.htm](http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/marmite.htm)

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**Author:** ![rinni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f6c823/32.png) [@rinni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rinni)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/7 "2005-10-22T04:55:58Z")

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I’ve never had Marmite or Vegemite.

However, I’m firmly convinced that I’d love them.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/8 "2005-10-22T05:03:56Z")

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More / salty / than / Marmite / ?

Bovril\> NaCl \> Marmite

> [@](#):
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> more (môr, mohr) adj. compar. of \<much\> or \<many\> with \<most\>  
> as superl  
> 1. in greater quantity, amount, measure,  
> degree, or number: I need more money.
> 
> salt-y (sôl’tee) adj. \<salt-i-er, salt-i-est\>  
> 1. tasting of or containing salt; saline.
> 
> than (than, then; unstressed thuhn, uhn) conj.  
> 1. (used after comparative adjectives and  
> adverbs and certain other words, such as  
> other, otherwise, else, etc., to  
> introduce the second member of a  
> comparison

No matter how I diagram that sentence, it just doesn’t make much sense.

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**Author:** ![available\_light](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@available\_light](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/available_light)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/9 "2005-10-22T06:07:42Z")

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A British friend of mine introduced me to Bovril back in high school. She’d make bovril & butter sandwiches on whole wheat. Yum! And I agree, better than Marmite (I’ve never had Vegemite).

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**Author:** ![Sarah\_Woodruff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sarah\_Woodruff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarah_Woodruff)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/10 "2005-10-22T06:38:46Z")

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Hmm. I was born in Ors-stray-ya and I am part-British, so without any favouritism I have to say that Vegemite is BETTER than Marmite. Mwahahahaha!

If you’re into such things, I suggest you check out [yummy lovely H P Sauce](http://www.birminghamuk.com/wikipedia/HP_Sauce.htm) (as referenced in _The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole_). It is perfect with any meat pie or sausage.

Adrian: _“My father said today that he was now Middle-class. That’s preposterous - he still puts H P Sauce on his toast.”_

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/11 "2005-10-22T07:57:17Z")

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**Qadgop** , my friend, welcome to the Dark Side. If ever you have the chance to get hold of some Gentleman’s Relish, do so. What Bovril does for beef, GR does for salted anchovies.

Have you tried Bovril as a warming winter drink yet? A spoonful of beefy goodness dissolved in boiling water, which is allowed to cool just to the point where it will not – quite – remove the skin from your tongue and gums. When you are having to crack the icicles from your beard, there is hardly a thing to beat it.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/12 "2005-10-22T09:03:57Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> What Bovril does for beef, GR does for salted anchovies.

It shuns them after a century of good service in favour of yeast extract?

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/13 "2005-10-22T09:09:54Z")

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I have always thought that correct accompaniments for cheddar cheese and meats were the other Brit staples, Branston Pickles or piccalilli (Sweet mustard Pickles).

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/14 "2005-10-22T13:15:41Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> **Qadgop** , my friend, welcome to the Dark Side. If ever you have the chance to get hold of some Gentleman’s Relish, do so.

I bought some here after having in in the UK recently. It’s superb. Fairly pricey, though.

How about Twiglets? They are a Marmite flavoured pretzel disguised as kindling.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/15 "2005-10-22T13:48:04Z")

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well, if all you’re after is [salty …](http://www.bad-candy.com/candies/dubbelzout/)  
Personally, marmite’s the one for me. Marmite-and-chedar sarmies, yum. That and anchovette toats…

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/16 "2005-10-22T14:52:53Z")

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Hmmmmm.

HP sauce.

Gentleman’s Relish.

Twiglets.

And I also see that both Walker’s crisps (potato chips flavored with marmite ) and Marmite Mania (a marmite & cheese spread mix) also exist. Thanks for the Marmite link, **Imasquare**.

New things to try!!

Oh, life is good!

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/17 "2005-10-22T14:54:02Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> well, if all you’re after is [salty …](http://www.bad-candy.com/candies/dubbelzout/)  
> Personally, marmite’s the one for me. Marmite-and-chedar sarmies, yum. That and anchovette toats…

What’s a toat?

And despite my dutch heritage, I’ve never warmed much to licorice. So I’ll give a pass to the dubbelzouts. But thanks for thinking of me!!

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/18 "2005-10-22T15:10:58Z")

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A little anecdote about Bovril. My father puts it on everything, even pasta. His father claims it saved his life when he had pneumonia as a young child in the North Strand in Dublin. All he could eat/drink was Bovril and he alleges that it kept him alive. So but for Bovril I may not be here at all 😃

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**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/19 "2005-10-22T16:48:36Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> First I discovered [Vegemite](http://about-australia-shop.com/images/static-vegemite001.jpg), and it was good. Damned good!
> 
> Then I found [Marmite](http://www.nexternal.com/vegane/images/MarmiteLg.jpg), and it got even better!
> 
> But now, I have discovered [Bovril](http://www.westonsinternet.co.uk/images/bov26j.jpg), and my delight knows no bounds!! The perfect spread for when Vegemite and Marmite are just _not_ beefy or salty enough! Deep brown like Soy Sauce, it flows like honey, and tastes for all the world like a Kobe Beef cow has been rendered into a fine syrup just for my pleasure!
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> Have my fellow yeast-extract lovers indulged in this epicurian delight? Got any recipes to share?

Oh My! :eek: and you a doctor! icky. nasty. bad.

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**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/first-vegemite-then-marmite-now-bovril/327381/20 "2005-10-22T16:53:25Z")

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Branston Pickle is the accompaniment for cheese. All others are poor relations.

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