# Fish v. Kobach (Kansas voter rights lawsuit) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 3, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-v-kobach-kansas-voter-rights-lawsuit/809979 "2018-03-03T21:16:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-v-kobach-kansas-voter-rights-lawsuit/809979/41 "2018-05-02T12:34:46Z")
It’s OK though - [the state is going to pay his fine](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/kobach-kansas-house-budget-contempt-order). To be fair, the legislature did try to pass a provision that would prevent the state from paying legal fees for contempt of court judgements, but ultimately dropped it. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-v-kobach-kansas-voter-rights-lawsuit/809979/42 "2018-06-20T00:31:25Z")
This case has finally been adjudicated. The judge ruled that the Kansas voter law is unconstitutional. And Kris Kobach is ordered to go back to school to sharpen up his lawyering skills. > [@](#): > > A federal judge has struck down a Kansas voter citizenship law that Secretary of State Kris Kobach had personally defended. > > Judge Julie Robinson also ordered Kobach, who is seeking the Republican nomination for governor, to take more hours of continuing legal education after he was found in contempt and was frequently chided during the trial over missteps. You can read the article [here](http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article213415624.html). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-v-kobach-kansas-voter-rights-lawsuit/809979/43 "2018-06-20T13:54:25Z")
> [@](#): > > And Kris Kobach is ordered to go back to school to sharpen up his lawyering skills. I thought that was going to just be a metaphorical smackdown. But no, it’s literally true. I like this Judge Robinson. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-v-kobach-kansas-voter-rights-lawsuit/809979/44 "2018-06-20T14:29:00Z")
LOL, he was such a bad lawyer he got sentenced to law school. (Not quite, but it’s a good line and I don’t want to waste it. 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-v-kobach-kansas-voter-rights-lawsuit/809979/45 "2018-06-20T15:07:23Z")
How is it so easy, in politics, for idiots to rise so far above their abilities? Thank Og this judge was around; I hope there are more like her. > [@JohnT](#): > > LOL, he was such a bad lawyer he got sentenced to law school. > > (Not quite, but it’s a good line and I don’t want to waste it. 😉 ) I disagree; it’s an _excellent_ line. And no, you shouldn’t waste it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-v-kobach-kansas-voter-rights-lawsuit/809979/46 "2018-06-20T17:33:17Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > LOL, he was such a bad lawyer he got sentenced to law school. > > (Not quite, but it’s a good line and I don’t want to waste it. 😉 ) Totally agree with **Snowboarder**. Excellent line and it shouldn’t be wasted. I hope that I have permission to use it myself! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-v-kobach-kansas-voter-rights-lawsuit/809979/47 "2018-06-20T17:56:00Z")
Please, please, by all means, go ahead. Can we all just come to agreement that when a Republican complains about “voter fraud” we can just refer to their claim as a Fauxter Fraud case? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-v-kobach-kansas-voter-rights-lawsuit/809979/48 "2018-06-21T02:28:03Z")
> [@](#): > > **Kansas secretary of state defies court order, won’t register eligible voters** > > “I think ‘immediately’ is kind of open to interpretation,” his office said. > **[Kansas secretary of state defies court order, won’t register eligible voters](https://thinkprogress.org/kobach-defies-court-voter-id-72f3279dd2a0/)** > > “I think ‘immediately’ is kind of open to interpretation,” his office said. I’m not sure this is entirely legal and Constitutional. I mean, we as a society assign certain learned persons to make these decisions and give them nifty vinyl robes… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-v-kobach-kansas-voter-rights-lawsuit/809979/49 "2020-12-14T18:21:35Z")
Bumped. SCOTUS smacks Kobach around a little more. > **[U.S. Supreme Court rejects bid to revive Kansas voting restriction](https://www.aol.com/news/u-supreme-court-rejects-bid-151422030-153108964.html)** > > The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday declined to hear a bid by Kansas to revive a restrictive Republican-backed law that required documentation of citizenship for voter registration - a measure struck down by lower courts for disenfranchising qualified... ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-v-kobach-kansas-voter-rights-lawsuit/809979/50 "2020-12-14T18:43:00Z")
You do realize that the SCOTUS only grants cert in less than 3% of the cases presented each term. A denial of cert is just that, nothing more, and certainly not “smacking” anyone around. [Supreme Court Success Rate on a Writ of Certiorari (supremecourtpress.com)](https://supremecourtpress.com/chance_of_success.html#:~:text=In%202010%2C%20there%20were%205%2C910,success%20rate%20of%20only%202.8%25.) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-v-kobach-kansas-voter-rights-lawsuit/809979/51 "2020-12-14T19:13:13Z")
I do know that. But this can hardly have been welcome holiday news at Kasa Kobach. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fish-v-kobach-kansas-voter-rights-lawsuit/809979.md?page=2)