# Five bodies found in two cars in a lake. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 18, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120 "2013-09-18T02:54:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/21 "2013-09-18T14:55:32Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > It is clearly a case of a Lady in White ghost which caused both cars to veer off into the lake. I’ve been trying to come up with suitable conspiracy theories since I read about it this morning, and a White Woman was also my first thought. Though I’m not ruling out homicidal motel owners or merpeople. > [@Yllaria](#): > > Looks like the new sonar equipment paid off. Take _that_, penny-pinching state accountants. “Oh, you don’t really _need_ new sonar equipment.” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/22 "2013-09-18T14:59:24Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Imagine the horror of crashing into the lake, and the last thing you see as you drown are dead bodies in the car next to yours. Good user name for that post. 🙂 Perhaps the detective said they had no information because the cops are driving over to his house. I believe side by side would go for an accident or a crime, they may have gone into the water at the same place, whether they were pushed or jumped. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/23 "2013-09-18T15:00:19Z")
> [@bup](#): > > And it doesn’t resemble the area in the photos where they’ve pulled the vehicles out. It’s possible they entered the lake elsewhere, possibly forcefully enough to kill or knock out the passengers and then floated a little way with the current to a partially submerged berm. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Imagine the horror of crashing into the lake, and the last thing you see as you drown are dead bodies in the car next to yours. If I’m a movie screenwriter, I take this scenario and run with it. What a chilling scene! > [@bup](#): > > They’d have to be going pretty fast to get far enough into the lake to not be seen for 30 years. Now they need to head to the middle of the lake with the sonar and look some more. That’s where they’re going to find the Corvettes and Ferraris. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/24 "2013-09-18T15:23:39Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > It’s possible they entered the lake elsewhere, possibly forcefully enough to kill or knock out the passengers and then floated a little way with the current to a partially submerged berm. Yeah, and it’s also entirely likely they pulled the cars out not at the closest shoreline, but where there was a ramp, like [here](https://maps.google.com/maps?q=foss+lake+oklahoma&ll=35.53585,-99.193819&spn=0.00129,0.001725&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hnear=Foss+Reservoir&t=h&z=19). So maybe they did go off State 44, which maybe didn’t have guard rails then and the edge of the lake was packed enough that the cars left no tracks. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/25 "2013-09-18T18:40:06Z")
Could be as simple as swerving to miss deer. I’m sure that around the lake they have plenty of deer. StG ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/26 "2013-09-18T19:13:07Z")
The disappointing thing is that unless there’s some actual physical evidence still left behind they may never know what the real cause(s) behind the sinkings were. If there’s evidence of ramming, a bullet hole in some panel, shell casings, a weapon or the like that’s one thing. But much of the evidence if there was a crime would have deteriorated decades back. I hope they do provide an update if any progress is made. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/27 "2013-09-18T19:31:20Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Imagine the horror of crashing into the lake, and the last thing you see as you drown are dead bodies in the car next to yours. Imagine if then, they turned and started waving at you. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/28 "2013-09-18T19:32:19Z")
Twenty bucks says this will be an episode of _Bones_ by spring. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/29 "2013-09-18T19:52:56Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > The disappointing thing is that unless there’s some actual physical evidence still left behind they may never know what the real cause(s) behind the sinkings were. If there’s evidence of ramming, a bullet hole in some panel, shell casings, a weapon or the like that’s one thing. But much of the evidence if there was a crime would have deteriorated decades back. I hope they do provide an update if any progress is made. Three of them were known to be driving together in the Camaro, with a 16 year old at the wheel. He drove into the lake. The other one is more interesting - there were three skeletons in the car even though only two people were noticed missing. Still, the driver probably accidentally drove into the lake. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/30 "2013-09-18T19:58:11Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > Twenty bucks says this will be an episode of _Bones_ by spring. They already did a similar one on NCIS several seasons ago - of course, it was a murder. ETA - on second thought - it was an accident posed to look like a murder. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/31 "2013-09-18T20:07:01Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Imagine if then, they turned and started waving at you. Jesus Christ, 'tout, I don’t want to be thinking about that when I go to sleep! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/32 "2013-09-18T20:13:11Z")
> [@simster](#): > > They already did a similar one on NCIS several seasons ago - of course, it was a murder. > > ETA - on second thought - it was an accident posed to look like a murder. [Black Water](http://ncis.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Water_%28episode%29). ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/33 "2013-09-18T20:14:05Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Three of them were known to be driving together in the Camaro, with a 16 year old at the wheel. He drove into the lake. > > The other one is more interesting - there were three skeletons in the car even though only two people were noticed missing. Still, the driver probably accidentally drove into the lake. Six people couldn’t escape these two vehicles? Wonder if both of these vehicles had electric windows? Sounds more like shenanigans to me. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/34 "2013-09-18T20:16:17Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Six people couldn’t escape these two vehicles? Wonder if both of these vehicles had electric windows? Not in the 60’s and probably not in the 70’s. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/35 "2013-09-18T20:32:43Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I’m going with serial killer. It can’t be a coincidence. A really\* lazy \*serial killer. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/36 "2013-09-18T20:39:00Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > Twenty bucks says this will be an episode of _Bones_ by spring. Or Cold Case. ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/37 "2013-09-18T20:40:56Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Imagine the horror of crashing into the lake, and the last thing you see as you drown are dead bodies in the car next to yours. > [@Mangetout](#): > > Imagine if then, they turned and started waving at you. Thanks so much, you two! I’ll be sure to warn my husband before I go to bed tonight to expect me to wake up screaming in the middle of the night from nightmares! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/38 "2013-09-18T20:41:28Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Six people couldn’t escape these two vehicles? Wonder if both of these vehicles had electric windows? Sounds more like shenanigans to me. It’s harder than it sounds. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/39 "2013-09-18T20:41:29Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Six people couldn’t escape these two vehicles? Wonder if both of these vehicles had electric windows? '57 Chevy and '69 Camero so probably not. Had they been a Lincoln, Cadillac, or Packard then such windows would be a possibility. Packard introduced power windows in '40. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/40 "2013-09-18T20:42:37Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Three of them were known to be driving together in the Camaro, with a 16 year old at the wheel. He drove into the lake. > > The other one is more interesting - there were three skeletons in the car even though only two people were noticed missing. Still, the driver probably accidentally drove into the lake. The thing is, the lake looks to be about 2 miles wide and 6 miles long. Its not a little pond. Just that stretch of road looks to be about 3 miles long.And both vehicles were found side by side. That’s a hell of a coincidence. [This](http://kfor.com/2013/09/17/officials-crews-pull-cars-from-foss-lake-possibly-connected-to-1970-cold-case/) article states that the two disappearances were about a year apart. That makes it seem a little less random. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120.md?page=3)