# Five bodies found in two cars in a lake. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 18, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120 "2013-09-18T02:54:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/101 "2013-09-22T16:32:49Z")
Judging from my wild and crazy teenage days at about the same time as the kid in the Camaro, I’d say there’s a good chance they lied about where they were going not so they could go hunting, but to drive around and smoke a little weed. Fortunately back in my day, there weren’t any lakes around to drive into. That’s just what all of us did back then, drive around and smoke dope. ---
**Author:** ![CLee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@CLee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CLee)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/102 "2013-09-22T18:38:04Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Upthread, someone pointed out that the dark spots are probably not the cars. But even if they were, the visibility is only a few inches in the water. No surprise there that no one would see them. Also, and I am not a fisherman, I’m guessing that people wouldn’t be fishing near where boats are going in and out of the water. Wouldn’t the boats scare the fish away? Mightn’t there be a risk of losing your line if a boat runs over it? Wouldn’t the boaters be annoyed to have fishing line wrapped around their propellers? > > Of course I don’t know the answers to those questions; but they occur to me as reasons why people might not be fishing there. The poor visibility is reported in the articles. Certainly people might use fish finders there, but there’s no reason to. Not that so much as boaters leave the areas around ramps clear as a courtesy to other boaters. Also loading and unloading boats creates a considerable wake, and it wouldn’t be a pleasant location to park and fish because you’d be rolling about quite a bit. That location would be treated as ingress/egress only, with little if any loitering. ---
**Author:** ![CLee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@CLee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CLee)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/103 "2013-09-22T22:35:03Z")
A plane just found in Lake Norman in NC: [Video News - CNN](http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2013/09/21/dnt-nc-plane-found-in-lake.wsoc-charlotte-fire-department&hpt=hp_c4&from_homepage=yes#/video/us/2013/09/21/dnt-nc-plane-found-in-lake.wsoc-charlotte-fire-department) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/104 "2013-09-22T22:40:07Z")
> [@CLee](#): > > A plane just found in Lake Norman in NC: [http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2013/09/21/dnt-nc-plane-found-in-lake.wsoc-charlotte-fire-department&hpt=hp\_c4&from\_homepage=yes#/video/us/2013/09/21/dnt-nc-plane-found-in-lake.wsoc-charlotte-fire-department](http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2013/09/21/dnt-nc-plane-found-in-lake.wsoc-charlotte-fire-department&hpt=hp_c4&from_homepage=yes#/video/us/2013/09/21/dnt-nc-plane-found-in-lake.wsoc-charlotte-fire-department) [Non-video link](http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/09/22/4331509/sonar-exercise-finds-lost-plane.html#.Uj9xoBaV9cR). I wish they had released the N-number. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/105 "2013-09-22T22:57:43Z")
> [@CLee](#): > > I’m nearly certain that any fisherman would report a new wreck, but the tires, cars, parts, furniture, and other assorted manmade debris are just features of the underwater landscape. People are slobs, and landfills have tipping fees. I’m not excusing it, just reporting how apparently common it is to spot submerged cars. Husband says there are dozens in the larger lakes. In the northern states, it’s not uncommon for ice fisherman to buy a derelict car, drive it out onto a frozen lake after the ice is thick enough, and use it as a shelter for the winter. They sometimes remove usable parts and sell them, and thus recoup the cost of the car. Then the ice melts and the car sinks into the lake. ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/77aa72/32.png) [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fluffy_PickleSniffer)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/106 "2013-09-22T23:46:51Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > In the northern states, it’s not uncommon for ice fisherman to buy a derelict car, drive it out onto a frozen lake after the ice is thick enough, and use it as a shelter for the winter. They sometimes remove usable parts and sell them, and thus recoup the cost of the car. Then the ice melts and the car sinks into the lake. I’ve never heard of that one before. Here’s Wisconsin’s regulations on ice fishing shelters: > [@](#): > > Ice Fishing > Statewide fishing restrictions apply (see Page 8). Fishing holes cut through the ice cannot measure more than 12 inches across.The doors of enclosed fishing shelters must be readily opened from the outside while occupied; they may be locked only while not occupied and not in use. The shelter owner’s name and address (in English) must be lettering a minimum of one inch square and in contrasting colors. Fishing shelters that are occupied or otherwise in use are exempt from this requirement. Fishing shelters on Wisconsin boundary waters with Iowa, Michigan or Minnesota must display the name and address on all shelters at all times, even portable shelters that are occupied or in use. > \*\*After the date for removing shelters from the ice, you may continue to use a portable shelter, but you must remove it daily when it is not occupied or in use. _Shelters must be removed daily on the Fox River in Brown County from the DePere Dam downstream. > All ice fishing shelters must be completely removed from: > • List of lakes follows…_ [link](http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/fishing/documents/regulations/FishingRegs12-13_web.pdf) (warning: PDF file) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/107 "2013-09-23T01:49:54Z")
I guess you could drive them to shore. 🙂 Ice fishing seems to me like jumping out of a perfectly good airplane. ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/108 "2013-09-23T21:56:31Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Judging from my wild and crazy teenage days at about the same time as the kid in the Camaro, I’d say there’s a good chance they lied about where they were going not so they could go hunting, but to drive around and smoke a little weed. Fortunately back in my day, there weren’t any lakes around to drive into. That’s just what all of us did back then, drive around and smoke dope. A member of his family (brother?) saw Jimmy load the guns in the boot of the car before heading out that evening, which is why it’s always been suspected that they were going out hunting. I can no longer find the article that contains that information because this story has become big news in the last few days, but it predated finding the cars (with the guns still locked in the boot). ---
**Author:** ![CLee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@CLee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CLee)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/109 "2013-09-24T01:14:55Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [Non-video link](http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/09/22/4331509/sonar-exercise-finds-lost-plane.html#.Uj9xoBaV9cR). > > I wish they had released the N-number. Probably solved: [http://myfox8.com/2013/09/21/aircraft-discovered-in-lake-norman/](http://myfox8.com/2013/09/21/aircraft-discovered-in-lake-norman/) Another lost car mystery in South Dakota, two teenaged girls missing since 71. Studebaker found in a creek bank due to low levels. [http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130923/ARGUS911/130923014/Update-Authorities-find-car-driven-by-two-teenagers-when-they-went-missing-1971?nclick\_check=1](http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130923/ARGUS911/130923014/Update-Authorities-find-car-driven-by-two-teenagers-when-they-went-missing-1971?nclick_check=1) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/110 "2013-09-24T02:37:30Z")
> [@CLee](#): > > Probably solved: [http://myfox8.com/2013/09/21/aircraft-discovered-in-lake-norman/](http://myfox8.com/2013/09/21/aircraft-discovered-in-lake-norman/) Saw that earlier today. The reason I asked about the N-number is that I might be able to find out what kind of plane it is. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/111 "2013-09-24T03:50:20Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Judging from my wild and crazy teenage days at about the same time as the kid in the Camaro, I’d say there’s a good chance they lied about where they were going not so they could go hunting, but to drive around and smoke a little weed. Fortunately back in my day, there weren’t any lakes around to drive into. That’s just what all of us did back then, drive around and smoke dope. > [@Eliahna](#): > > A member of his family (brother?) saw Jimmy load the guns in the boot of the car before heading out that evening, which is why it’s always been suspected that they were going out hunting. I can no longer find the article that contains that information because this story has become big news in the last few days, but it predated finding the cars (with the guns still locked in the boot). Judging from my days in West Texas at about that time, and I think rural Oklahoma would probably have been about the same, hunting and dope smoking were not mutually exclusive. I can see how some stoner kid with a hot new Camaro might have run it into the lake. With all these other sitings now too, I wonder if this will be a byproduct of global warming, water levels dropping low enough to clear up a few mysteries. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/112 "2013-09-24T05:46:19Z")
> [@CLee](#): > > Another lost car mystery in South Dakota, two teenaged girls missing since 71. Studebaker found in a creek bank due to low levels. > > [http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130923/ARGUS911/130923014/Update-Authorities-find-car-driven-by-two-teenagers-when-they-went-missing-1971?nclick\_check=1](http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130923/ARGUS911/130923014/Update-Authorities-find-car-driven-by-two-teenagers-when-they-went-missing-1971?nclick_check=1) I think **Snow Boarder Bo** needs to chime in on this one. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/113 "2013-09-24T10:32:27Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I think **Snow Boarder Bo** needs to chime in on this one. Please! Do not taunt Happy Fun Bo! ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/114 "2013-09-25T16:26:45Z")
> [@CLee](#): > > Another lost car mystery in South Dakota, two teenaged girls missing since 71. Studebaker found in a creek bank due to low levels. > > [http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130923/ARGUS911/130923014/Update-Authorities-find-car-driven-by-two-teenagers-when-they-went-missing-1971?nclick\_check=1](http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130923/ARGUS911/130923014/Update-Authorities-find-car-driven-by-two-teenagers-when-they-went-missing-1971?nclick_check=1) The latest is that human remains were found in the car. Seems the families will get some closure after all. [http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130925/NEWS/309250035/1971-cold-case-video-photos-Human-remains-found-car](http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130925/NEWS/309250035/1971-cold-case-video-photos-Human-remains-found-car) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/115 "2013-09-26T02:53:25Z")
This phenomenon of climate change turning up long-lost bodies started with [Ötzi](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi). Unfortunately, none of his family was left to receive closure. Unless, of course, we all are descended from him, in which case I feel much better now myself. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/116 "2013-09-26T04:07:56Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > This phenomenon of climate change turning up long-lost bodies started with [Ötzi](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi). /hijack That’s fascinating, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/117 "2013-09-26T16:02:56Z")
The Oklahoma Highway patrol believes that both cars were the results of accidents and not foul play. [http://kfor.com/2013/09/25/ohp-no-foul-play-involved-in-foss-lake-tragedies/](http://kfor.com/2013/09/25/ohp-no-foul-play-involved-in-foss-lake-tragedies/) ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/118 "2013-09-26T16:43:27Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > The Oklahoma Highway patrol believes that both cars were the results of accidents and not foul play. [http://kfor.com/2013/09/25/ohp-no-foul-play-involved-in-foss-lake-tragedies/](http://kfor.com/2013/09/25/ohp-no-foul-play-involved-in-foss-lake-tragedies/) Unless both drivers swerved to avoid hitting a bird. ---
**Author:** ![rsat3acr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@rsat3acr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsat3acr)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/119 "2013-09-26T20:14:28Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > Unless both drivers swerved to avoid hitting a bird. They were driving from Sesame Street. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120/120 "2013-09-26T20:39:57Z")
> [@rsat3acr](#): > > They were driving from Sesame Street. Hell, they probably drove into the lake on purpose. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-bodies-found-in-two-cars-in-a-lake/669120.md?page=7)