# Five Year old Girl "Breaks thru barricade"to Give Pope message on Immigraation **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 24, 2015, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379 "2015-09-24T05:45:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/21 "2015-09-24T07:43:21Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > by walking, placing one foot in front of another? I think at one point one of the secret service agents lifted her up over the barricade… ok ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/22 "2015-09-24T07:45:37Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > ok funny how they picked outta the blue a 5 year year old with documents about immigration ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/23 "2015-09-24T07:49:00Z")
also how that little girl got to run up to the pope with a document when NOBODY ELSE in the crowd got to do that ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/24 "2015-09-24T07:51:51Z")
and funny how her and fer parents are illegals its fucking amazing how the pope picked them outta the crowd ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/25 "2015-09-24T07:53:27Z")
i guess it was truly a sign from god ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/26 "2015-09-24T07:58:37Z")
but you leftys dont believe in god unless it suits you ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/27 "2015-09-24T12:09:26Z")
Given the number of little Sophies in the crowd with the same message for the Pope, it’s a testament to security measures and secret service that only one has managed to catch the Pope’s eye and deliver her message so effectively. Even god is hard pressed to beat the odds that someone eventually would. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/28 "2015-09-24T12:10:19Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > Actually I think the Catholic Church does crack down on them pretty hard now. But even if they didn’t, how would that invalidate the the beautiful message of the letter and drawing of this 5 year old girl? I am quite sure not a word of that was written by the 5 year old girl. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/29 "2015-09-24T12:16:21Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > I am quite sure not a word of that was written by the 5 year old girl. I concur. The drawing at the bottom of the page looks like something an adult drew in the style of a child as well. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/30 "2015-09-24T12:28:32Z")
I’ve been in a couple of Papal big meetings, and both times part of the security was a cordon formed by volunteers taken from the sides (no trouble finding those, since being in the cordon actually gave you the closest possible view). It’s not hard to picture a little kid getting through that. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/31 "2015-09-24T13:22:41Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > If it was a setup it means it was set up to make a political statement. > > That is not cool for a visit from the pope. It was a sly attempt to interject an agenda. Are you joking? The pope is a head of state. An agenda wasn’t interjected into his visit, an agenda is the purpose of his visit. If Ronald McDonald came to visit would you be surprised if a discussion about hamburgers broke out? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/32 "2015-09-24T13:38:33Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > Are you joking? The pope is a head of state. An agenda wasn’t interjected into his visit, an agenda is the purpose of his visit. If Ronald McDonald came to visit would you be surprised if a discussion about hamburgers broke out? One would expect a less hackneyed and transparent attempt to manipulate the public emotionally from an organization like The Vatican. I’m actually on their side on this issue and I resent this clumsy attempt to play me. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/33 "2015-09-24T13:41:58Z")
Well, he’s lost my vote. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/34 "2015-09-24T14:02:41Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > I will give you that robert, but where is the call to crack down on pedo priests, something liberals seem to ignore from this pope > > I will agree this pope is an activist and thats fine but you have to clear the barn first Come on. He’s already had a [high-ranking pedo](http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/8/28/priest-charged-with-pedophilia-dies-before-trial.html) whacked. Give him some credit. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/35 "2015-09-24T14:04:08Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > jesus was a socialist 😕 What translation are you reading? Mein Bibel? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/36 "2015-09-24T14:26:07Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > One would expect a less hackneyed and transparent attempt to manipulate the public emotionally from an organization like The Vatican. I’m actually on their side on this issue and I resent this clumsy attempt to play me. I’m pretty sure emotional manipulation is the Vatican’s stock-in-trade. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/37 "2015-09-24T14:34:30Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > but you leftys dont believe in god unless it suits you Either your hardware is out of order or your software is buggy. Time to return to your home planet for a reboot… ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/38 "2015-09-24T14:35:40Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I’m pretty sure emotional manipulation is the Vatican’s stock-in-trade. Exactly. Thus, my disgust at this amateur night performance. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/39 "2015-09-24T14:42:41Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > > [@Mosier](#): > > > > I am quite sure not a word of that was written by the 5 year old girl. > > I concur. The drawing at the bottom of the page looks like something an adult drew in the style of a child as well. I reckon the drawing is more of her own creation than the wording of the letter. At the same time, I don’t think the presumed fact of someone else writing or dictating much of the language of the letter, for her to transcribe, means that it is not _her feelings_ that are represented. Why should anyone not believe that the matters referenced are not things that she has heard of, thought of, taken her own interest in? And why would it be wrong for a parent or another adult to help her put her message down? Kids are routinely encouraged and facilitated to write to President or Congressman, God, Santa Claus. As **QuickSilver** says, she was undoubtedly not the only kid (or adult) there with such a letter in hand. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379/40 "2015-09-24T14:55:50Z")
Considering that a recent Pope was almost assassinated, it had to be a setup. Otherwise they would be scraping the kids body up off the pavement. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/five-year-old-girl-breaks-thru-barricade-to-give-pope-message-on-immigraation/732379.md?page=3)