# Flags at half-staff **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [November 18, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flags-at-half-staff/561161 "2010-11-18T23:02:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flags-at-half-staff/561161/1 "2010-11-18T23:02:30Z")
My understanding is that only the President or Congress can order The U.S. Flag to half-staff and that absent presidential or congressional permission, governors can have state flags go to half-staff while Old Glory stays at full-staff. Yesterday, Colorado Gov. Ritter ordered flags to half-staff to honor 2 servicemen killed in the line of duty. First question: is it correct that this order was incorrectly (or even illegally) given? Second question: if so andI refuse to obey the order, where in the USC would it state that the Governor cannot order the Federal flag to half-staff? Third question: IIRC, the MIA/POW (black) flag is never to be flown at half-staff but instead is not flown when the U.S. Flag is at half-staff. Is that true and is it in the USC? ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flags-at-half-staff/561161/2 "2010-11-18T23:25:46Z")
Sometimes in DC there are some Federal buildings with half-staff flags and others without. I was trying to find some resource for knowing who died and warranted it, but I failed, so I just concluded that the flags just got stuck or nobody bothered to change it or something. ---
**Author:** ![postcards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@postcards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/postcards)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flags-at-half-staff/561161/3 "2010-11-18T23:30:07Z")
Perhaps the governor ordered the flags to be flown at half-mast only on _state_ buildings, over which he has authority? I would imagine only the POTUS has authority to order flags at half-mast on Federal buildings. Or did he make the order for _all_ government buildings? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flags-at-half-staff/561161/4 "2010-11-18T23:34:41Z")
Anyone can order half-staff on any flagpoles over which they have authority. You could fly the flag at half on the flagpole in your front yard to mourn the death of your great-uncle, and still be within the Flag Code. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flags-at-half-staff/561161/5 "2010-11-18T23:37:14Z")
**Chronos** is right: At college, the flag would sometimes be put at half-staff because someone on the board of trustees had died. It obviously was a decision at a much lower level than president, congress, or governor. It was the only flag at half-staff in the city. ---
**Author:** ![hdc\_bst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9f8e36/32.png) [@hdc\_bst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hdc_bst)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flags-at-half-staff/561161/6 "2010-11-18T23:41:44Z")
The flag code is a guide intended to describe proper handling and display of the flag. I like the summary at [USFlag.org](http://USFlag.org) : ‘No disrespect should be shown to the Flag of the United States of America’ The section detailing flying the flag at half-staff includes: > [@](#): > > By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff. The code details that governors can proclaim that the flag be shown at half-staff. Even if it wasn’t explicitly declared, the ‘recognized customs or practices’ clause covers it. Even if it didn’t at worst misdisplay is disrespect of the flag, but not illegal. And on preview I see the many excellent points that the command decision rests with who has authority. All the code ‘requires’ is respectful treatment. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flags-at-half-staff/561161/7 "2010-11-18T23:46:48Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Anyone can order half-staff on any flagpoles over which they have authority. You could fly the flag at half on the flagpole in your front yard to mourn the death of your great-uncle, and still be within the Flag Code. Confirming what **Chronos** said, my husband works at a hospital and it’s his call whenever the flags need to fly at half-staff. ---
**Author:** ![Fish\_Cheer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fish_cheer/32/17179_2.png) [@Fish\_Cheer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish_Cheer)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flags-at-half-staff/561161/8 "2010-11-19T06:20:18Z")
> [@postcards](#): > > Perhaps the governor ordered the flags to be flown at half-mast only on _state_ buildings, over which he has authority? > [@Wikipedia](#): > > [M]ilitary tradition indicates that “half-mast” is generally reserved to usage aboard a ship, where flags are typically flown from masts. [link](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-mast) > [@](#): > > Not all English-speaking nations observe this distinction. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flags-at-half-staff/561161/9 "2010-11-19T07:02:19Z")
I worked in a state facility (in New York). We would get a direction from Albany telling us to fly the “flags” at half-staff. So we would fly both the American flag and the state flag at half-staff. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flags-at-half-staff/561161/10 "2010-11-19T15:07:23Z")
As to the POW/MIA flag, the code that applies (36 USC 902) just says that this flag is to be displayed, when it is, in a manner that is “visible to the public”, otherwise it seems the the same provisions for display together with the US flag apply as would with any other flag or ensign. So it may be a practical consideration. Apparently nothing would keep me from adding a third flagpole to my building and flying the POW/MIA flag on its own right, full or half staff depending on the circumstances, save for tradition (probably arising from how the most common federal installation - Post Offices - usually have only the one flagpole for the US colors, so on the days that federal agencies are mandated to display the POW/MIA flag, that’s where it goes and where most Americans first saw it as an officially-sanctioned display)