# Flake vs. Carmona

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flake-vs-carmona/641360>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 17, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flake-vs-carmona/641360 "2012-11-17T23:53:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![denquixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@denquixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/denquixote)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flake-vs-carmona/641360/1 "2012-11-17T23:53:29Z")

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Is the Arizona Senate race offiicial yet? Have all of the ballots been counted? Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flake-vs-carmona/641360/2 "2012-11-18T00:36:50Z")

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[Flake will probably win, but as of a few days ago, a lot of provisional ballots were still being counted.](http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-11-12/news/sns-rt-us-campaign-arizona-countbre8ac03d-20121112_1_provisional-ballots-election-results-gain-ground)

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flake-vs-carmona/641360/3 "2012-11-18T01:52:05Z")

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[Salon.com today says that the races are over although ballots remained uncounted](http://www.salon.com/2012/11/17/arizona_elections_still_not_over_as_suspicion_builds/singleton/).

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> The election may have ended almost two weeks ago, but in Arizona, it goes on. Perhaps it’s fitting for a state with its own time zone, but as of last night, there remained over 100,000 uncounted votes in the state’s two largest counties, leaving election officials unable to officially certify the results of a number of the state’s high profile races, including the Senate race, several House contests, and Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s reelection bid. Friday was the deadline for counties to finish counting ballots, but the state blew past it yesterday when Maricopa, which contains Phoenix, and Pima County, which contains Tucson, said they needed more time. …
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> In the state’s Senate race, Republican Rep. Jeff Flake has a large enough lead over Democratic former Surgeon General Richard Carmona that even Democrats concede a win is probably out of reach, though not entirely impossible. The same goes for Arpaio’s race against Democrat Paul Penzone.