# Flamsterette, you crossed the line. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 24, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647 "2003-09-24T22:42:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tiburon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@Tiburon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tiburon)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/1 "2003-09-24T22:42:01Z")
Re: [This Thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=213338) I can’t believe how self-centered, petty, rude and stupid you are. You are being critical of someone who sent you a birthday card because they didn’t write your name in it? A person who is SO GOOD and has MS and the use of one hand? Are you JUST fucking KIDDING me?? \*\*Flamsterette\_X, Flamsterette\_X, Flamsterette\_X, Flamsterette\_X, Flamsterette\_X, Flamsterette\_X, Flamsterette\_X, Flamsterette\_X, \*\* You are a bitch. I didn’t want you to miss your name there. Look, John is a _great_ guy. He’s a **fantastic** friend and one of YOUR biggest defenders. In case you haven’t noticed, lots of people don’t like you. HE, however, speaks well of you because he’s kind and patient and really tries to see good in people. I hate that I’m pitting someone he thinks is a friend but you need to hear this. It’s incredibly selfish of you to be ‘dismayed’ that your name wasn’t on the inside of a card that he sent. It just IS. It’s stupid and petty. And calling ME a degenerate? I realize you once said you didn’t want to give you REAL thoughts on two girls kissing - no doubt you have a problem with it. So, tell me why you think I’m a degenerate because I pretty much know how you feel about homosexuals and it’s pretty fucking easy for me to put two and two together. I’m ALL TOO READY to hear that that isn’t the reason. I’m disgusted with you. That kind of self-centered behavior is just beyond belief. And how **thoughtless** of you to post it here on the boards where he could see it. Don’t you give a shit about anyone? You’re just so fucking self-centered and thoughtless, I can’t take believe it. Flamsterette, you’re a jerk. Sincerely, Tibby ---
**Author:** ![Geobabe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/geobabe/32/3908_2.png) [@Geobabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geobabe)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/2 "2003-09-24T23:13:11Z")
Flam\_X, any shred of sympathy I might have ever had for you is utterly gone. The man took the trouble to go out and buy you a birthday card (oh, and nobody mentioned yet that he isn’t exactly rolling in money either), write your name on the envelope with his one good hand, sign the damn thing, again with his one good hand, and you are selfish, petty and childish enought to fucking complain that he didn’t write your name on the inside! You have demonstrated today that you are completely without worth. And then you insult Tibs? She’s a degenerate? WHAT THE FUCK? This is a woman who has been a damn good friend to me, and many others, and you presume to judge her. Tibs has got more brains and character in her little finger than you’ve got in your entire miserable existence. I know you like to fling insults and then try to pretend that you posted it “accidentally,” but I’d really like to see you weasel your way out of this one, you little bitch. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/3 "2003-09-24T23:23:54Z")
Wow. I agree with this pitting 100%. That thread is rude and mean. The part that’s funny is that Flam is publicly questioning the correctness of another persons etiquette, when, from an etiquette point of view, that’s about the classless thing you can do. Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![sylphishone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@sylphishone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylphishone)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/4 "2003-09-24T23:34:22Z")
I agree with this pitting too. I usually stay off the boards mostly because of people like you. I don’t know John but I do know what you did was hurtful and mean and terribly childish and self centered. Calling Tibby a degenerate was not only uncalled for but just plain vicious and mean. I wish I could be more like Tibby. She is smart and pretty and popular and KIND. I should be such a degenerate. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/5 "2003-09-24T23:39:36Z")
Holy fucking SHIT…what a stuck up, conceited little bitch! In the past, I felt kind of bad for **Flam** , because she took a lot of shit for some petty stuff. No more. _shaking head_ That’s just about one of the nastiest things I’ve ever heard of. And _ **Tiburon** _ is the degenerate? What a piece of work!\* \*[sub]Flam, of course, not Tiburon[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/6 "2003-09-24T23:56:18Z")
My favorite part of her post was…“I have a right to be a **tad** upset” or some such shit. A tad? It obviously stuck in your craw so badly that you need to post a thread about on a board where you know god damn well people know him and would recognize who you were talking about. BAD. FUCKING. FORM. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/7 "2003-09-25T00:04:43Z")
I’m not even going to try to lie and say I don’t like pile-ons because in this case it is greatly deserved. FlamX, I honestly can not begin to fathom how you could even begin to think that the original thread was a good idea. Good Og child, are you really that clueless? Has no one ever told you that ANY gift should be graciously acknowledged. Period. I don’t care if it’s the wrong size, horrid color or GASP not personalized enough to suit your tastes. The proper response is “Thank You”. Someone thought of you on your birthday. He spent his most precious possession on you, his time. I don’t know John but after hearing how much extra time and effort he spent on you, it made your OP even more crase and dissapointing. And to futher prove how clueless you are, you throw a nasty little comment at Tibby, whom you apparently don’t know from Emily Post? There are no words. ---
**Author:** ![Mauvaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mauvaise/32/11084_2.png) [@Mauvaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mauvaise)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/8 "2003-09-25T00:05:14Z")
I was torn whether I should post this in the IMHO thread or this one, but I feel this is the proper place my my response. I know people keep stressing the fact that Flam\_X’s friend has MS and that is the main reason she’s being \. But really? The man could be wealthy beyond belief, healthy as an ox, and have _three_ strong working hands and it wouldn’t make her OP any less appalling. The reason I find it so appalling isn’t because she feels “dismayed” that her friend didn’t put her name on the inside of the card, she does have that right. What’s appalling is that 1) she would actually mention it directly to him and 2) that she would post about it, in public, where he is sure to see it (this is the worse offense in my eyes). When someone gives you a gift, you thank them, no matter if you hate it, or are dismayed by it or whatever. You never give someone who does something nice for you any indication that you’re disappointed in the manner in which it’s delivered. That is rude and inconsiderate beyond belief. Yeah, and Tibby’s the degenerate :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/9 "2003-09-25T00:07:25Z")
Damnit, I wanted to start this thread. I hate you, **Tibs** , you degenerate lesbian! Degenerate, huh? See, here I thought that word meant “amoral person” or something like that. And it turns out it means “kind, thoughtful, loving, and witty.” Goes to show, sometimes I’m wrong. Thanks for introducing me to a brand new definition of the word, **Flamsterette**! You, I am sorry to say, are nowhere near as degenerate as **Tiburon**. ---
**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/10 "2003-09-25T00:09:36Z")
From [Mirriam-Webster](http://www.m-w.com): Main Entry: 1de·gen·er·ate Pronunciation: di-'jen-r&t, -'je-n&-, dE- Function: adjective 1 a : having declined (as in nature, character, structure, or function) from an ancestral or former state b : having sunk to a condition below that which is normal to a type; **especially : having sunk to a lower and usually corrupt and vicious state** (bolding mine.) I think “having sunk to a lower…state” perfectly describes someone who would bitch about a person who has MS _not putting her name on the card_. So who’s the degenerate now? P.S. Also, asshole. Or in the words of a not-particularly-wise man… “What a stupid fucking bitch.” ---
**Author:** ![Dragonblink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dragonblink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragonblink)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/11 "2003-09-25T00:12:54Z")
What I don’t get is why **Flamsterette\_X** felt the need to single out the sender of the card. I mean, if the post was really about etiquette, then a simple “My friend sent me a birthday card with a short note, but not my name. Is this rude?” would have sufficed. Instead, she posts his first name and last initial, his state, and enough personal information that anyone who is acquainted with him would recognize him right away. Why in heaven’s name was that necessary? Was **Flamsterette** deliberately trying to embarrass someone she calls friend? Was she hoping he’d see himself and be mortified? That his friends would point him toward the thread so she wouldn’t have to tell him what she thought? That was a horrible, thoughtless thing to do to someone who went out of his way to send you a card because he was thinking of you. **Flamsterette** , you owe John an apology. You should be ashamed of yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/12 "2003-09-25T00:31:10Z")
Dragonblink, I think you are giving Flami too much credit. You’re assuming she actually thought about what she was doing. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/13 "2003-09-25T00:37:34Z")
What a bitchcake. ---
**Author:** ![Jadis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@Jadis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jadis)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/14 "2003-09-25T00:38:21Z")
I thought about composing an eloquently scathing dissertation on **Flamsterette** ’s more obvious faults, but I think it’s simpler to just say that she’s an irredeemable twat and leave it at that. Oh…and someone in the other thread (the boards are too slow and wonky right now for me to go back and see who it was) said that her behavior in pointing out and complaining about the omission of her name was “gauche”…I think that’s absolutely spot on. Gauche. In the extreme. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/15 "2003-09-25T00:39:00Z")
What I find really shocking and amazing is that, after four thousand posts and change, **Flamsterette** actually, finally, said something that was remotely interesting. Shockingly self-centered and childish, yes, but at least it’s a departure from the endless, vapid drone about her unimaginably uninteresting opinions, or pointless, meandering anecdotes that only on very good days have the slightest tangenital relation to the OP. My God, I can’t imagine what it must be like to be around this woman in real life, when you don’t have the advantage of a mouse-wheel to whisk you quickly and serenely past her unendurable maunderings. Man, I’ve been wanting to say that for the longest time. But it always seemed bad form to pit someone simply for not being sufficently entertaining. Also, it might possibly not be in my best interests to set that sort of precedent. But since she’s already being pitted for being a self-centered, thoughtless homophobe, I thought I’d take the opportunity to tack “crashing bore” onto the indictment. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/16 "2003-09-25T00:40:57Z")
Aside from all of the other poor behavior by the OP, let’s not overlook this: > [@](#): > > My other thoughts on this matter and the majority of the posters in this thread are best kept to myself. Ah, it’s the ol’ chestnut: **Flam** : “SDMB, what do you think of \?” **SDMB** : “Well, here’s my dissenting opinion…” **Flam** : “Well then fuck you.” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Joe\_Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Random)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/17 "2003-09-25T00:48:34Z")
I usually try to avoid passing judgment on people based on a single post. But Jesus Fuckin’ Christ! **Flamsterette\_X** ’s post has to be one of the most self-centered, ungrateful, rude things I’ve ever seen. If anyone’s a degenerate around here, it’s **Flamsterette\_X**. I mean, she actually has the _nerve_ to be upset when a friend with MS and the use of only one hand neglects to write her name inside a card that he otherwise personalized (which likely took a great amount of effort on his part)? And then she has such an extreme lack of judgment, that she mentions it on a message board that he reads? Not only does she not deserve to have her name on the inside of the card, she doesn’t deserve to have received the card in the first place. Ungrateful bitch. ---
**Author:** ![leechbabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@leechbabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leechbabe)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/18 "2003-09-25T00:50:13Z")
**Flami** that is beyond rude, it is hurtful, hateful and most unchristian like behavior! My mum has MS, she is in a wheelchair, can barely write and I know what an effort it would take someone with MS to merely get you a fucking card, let alone write in it and send it. So please **Flami** get a clue and make your apologies ASAP! ---
**Author:** ![Rasa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rasa/32/3578_2.png) [@Rasa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rasa)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/19 "2003-09-25T00:51:17Z")
My God, that degenerate **Tibs** had the **nerve** to send me a funny card, and a magnet that says “If you can walk, you can dance, if you can talk, you can sing!” when I was in need of a pick me up a few months ago. She addressed the card to… ::gasp:: **Rasa**! Not my REAL name. And in the return address she put **Tibbay!** The unmitigated gall of some people. And no, I don’t mean **Tiburon**. As for the card-sender, I have always found him to be a man of incredible charm, generosity and kindness. He’s gone out of his way more than once to drop me an IM to see how I’m doing and wished me well. Like **Mauv** said, I don’t care if he’s got as many able arms as Shiva, calling someone out in a such a manner is really fucking tacky. ---
**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/20 "2003-09-25T00:53:24Z")
**Flamsterette** , at first I just thought you were a rude, self-centered, clueless idiot. That was before I saw **Tibby** ’s first post in the IMHO thread and put two-and-two together. The fact that you’d put enough information in the thread for people here to figure out who you are talking about, or for the person himself to see it, makes you a hurtful bitch. Then when you call **Tibby** a degenerate… words fail me. What the fuck is your problem? You don’t deserve the card or the friendship of the person who sent it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647.md?page=2)